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B.1.621.1 is not a Delta variant. It's a new strain that arose in Colombia earlier in 2021. It was placed on an alert list list on May 26 2021. It does not yet have a Greek letter. https://www.who.int/en/activities/tracking-SARS-CoV-2-variants/ AY.3, in Mississippi and elsewhere. is a Delta variant Article about Delta-Plus in the US. Delta AY.1 and AY.2 are other Delta variants now in the US. And yes, it is all quite confusing.

These new sub-variants (AY.4, AY.6, AY.10, AY.12) were not first seen in Thailand but are relatively new. The variant numbers were assigned to the pango naming system Aug 12, 2021, and have been recently circulating in the UK. pango-designation:Proposal for sub-lineages within B.1.617.2 issue #180 However, they may well have arisen independently in Thailand. One suggestion is this group of mutations, and another group in the US (AY.3 ...) represent Delta trying to work it's way around the immune system and vaccines. Another anticipated Ruhrho moment. Discussion: https://www.coronaheadsup.com/tag/ay-10/ An interesting question is, are these variants showing up in areas that received a lot of Sinovac? Or one dose of AZ?

The 'must be 1st dose' rule does not apply to private hospital purchased Moderna vaccines. They also provide guidelines for mix and match including 2 prior doses. I picked up my official Moderna coupon with serial and registration numbers last week. They provide a website though appointment selection is not yet open. They state they will inform us "by early October" when registration is open. Each coupon is 1 shot and is transferable including non-profit resale. However, you cannot transfer after you make an appointment. How you mix and match is up to you but they offer guidelines. If you decide to mix and match you can let someone else use your other coupon. I registered with Vichaiyut Hospital but they state they are part of the same private hospital purchase as other hospitals. I do not provide a link because it's specific to Vichaiyut. Coupon of Rabus

They do that for epidemiological modelling. Prisoners spread differently as do worker camps. Standard practice around the world. You need a different equation for each group, then add them together. Thus you need separate numbers. The problem is how they are treated poorly.

Well, he's sure not afraid of vaccines... Mississippi should throw him a ticker tape parade. With Thailand's population they would have 119000 cases/day, highest in the world. Mississippi warns up to 5 years in jail for those who refuse to isolate

Woops! Did I get that wrong? I thought they recommended having sex with people wearing masks. At least that's what I told them...

Common sense requires you understand the reasons. The quarantined international borders are set up primarily to stop new variants and have so far worked flawlessly. Several potentially dangerous variants were caught in quarantine including Brazil's P.1 (Gamma) on a flight from France, UK's Alpha was stopped several times in the months before it came across a land boarder from Cambodia. They even stopped a 'Thai' strain on a flight from Egypt before it entered. Variants that did enter came across land borders with Myanmar, Cambodia, and Malaysia. Thailand cannot close its 4,700km of land borders. The quarantined borders are keeping out many new variants that are not yet nearby. This includes Lambda, Kappa, Eta, Iota.

I think you have the wrong guy. Thira Woratanarat is an Associate Professor at Chulalongkorn and Analytical logician who graduated as a medical doctor. Can't think of better qualifications to challenge numbers from medical crises. Diplomate Board of Preventive Medicine, Thai Medical Council Postdoctoral Fellowship in Epidemiology, Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, USA Master of Medical Science (Clinical Epidemiology), University of Newcastle, Australia Diploma in Health Financial Management and Policy in Health Care, University of Newcastle, Australia Doctor of Medicine (1st Class Honor), Faculty of Medicine, Ramathibodi Hospital, Mahidol University Thailand Check out his publications on GoogleScholar.

From France24 News: "China's drug regulator has approved the country's first mixed-vaccine trial, a company involved in the study said, as the rapid spread of the Delta variant raises concern about the efficacy of domestically produced jabs." "The trial will test the efficacy of combining an "inactivated" vaccine made by China's Sinovac with a DNA-based one developed by US pharmaceutical company Inovio, a statement issued on Tuesday said." https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210811-china-approves-first-mixed-vaccine-trial-as-delta-spreads

If you have quality data showing its effectiveness, kindly share it. The Chinese Globaltimes (!) says China is now hard at hard work to adapt vaccines to the Delta variant, now, that it has entered China. https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202108/1230741.shtml Answer this... Delta has been ravaging the world for a while now. Why would you buy a vaccine from someone not concerned about its effectiveness against Delta until it hits home? As you say, they didn't even have any good data.

About ~30% of those who died had some level of vaccination. But which vaccine? Here is the MOPH's shell game graph. Can you spot the Sinovac? No vaccine. 63.8% 1 Dose AZ 9.6% Full 2 dose 0.6% Info 'not complete' 19.2% <==== what's this? IOW, do you believe that Sinovac is 16 times better at preventing death from the Delta variant than AZ?

Even better proof how fast things went bad here. A rather stark image is the comparison between Thailand's Delta outbreak and India's, again per 1M, as in the data you posted. Thailand's totals are now further complicated be the introduction of ATK testing, so for now we don't really know the top. You can also see Thalland's nearly flat data for 2020. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases

And now, near the top in terms of daily deaths and cases, your number proves just how fast Thailand's situation got way out of control. Like they stood in front of a freight train.

Just in case it's hard to figure out, that fact the best vaccines are starting to falter against ever improving SARS-2 mutations, is not good, nor a good a reason to dis vaccines.

And that number still remains irrelevant to Thailand's horrific Delta spike killing hundreds daily, which is the subject of this thread. It is a smoky mirror.

Only if you count from the beginning. Q. Would you enter a blazing theatre because it had fewer fires in the past? The truth is that yesterday Thailand was 10th in total deaths per day, and all but one country above it have higher populations. Not good by any measure. Sorted by total new deaths recorded yesterday. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

The Netherlands has already researched 10% and 20% intradermal Moderna vaccinations and found them equally effective. But this not "regardless of brand" as in the OP. This is a property of Moderna: "In intradermally immunized participants, the antibody titers were 14 – 20-fold higher than that in convalescent plasma. Moreover, antibody titers detected after intradermal administration of 10/20 µg dose and intramuscular administration of 20 µg dose were equivalent to those who received 100 µg dose intramuscularly." Article: Intradermal administration of low-dose mRNA COVID-19 vaccine induces strong immune response. The paper

I was just informed that my 4 coupons (2 sets) for Moderna shots for October are ready for me to pick up at a BKK private hospital. I'll know more when I pick them up.

Are you assuming or have you seen something semi-official? I'm signed up for the first Moderna tranche but all I'm told it is it is on order and will be here as originally scheduled. If it is near October, I might skip my second AZ shot in September.

And surely the West would never have gone so far and achieved so much without Asia to stand on... Oh, wait... Actually, the way forward for mankind is strong, competitive, open and free collaboration for the betterment of all. There is only one fly in that ointment, can you spot it?

I think they've done this because hospitalized patients are consuming more and more of Thailand's small 70K (80K theory) daily PCR tests. As positive test rates go up, each positive test creates a new patient that needs at least 2 more PCR tests before release. Thus, fewer PCR tests for testing for new cases. This can be seen in the following graphs. This is not good news, it is another sign of a failing medical system. Source: https://github.com/djay/covidthailand

State of the art new technology promises vast quantities of cheap vaccines that can be manufactured anywhere. National Geographic:SCIENCE : Your next vaccine could be grown in a tobacco plant "Plant-based vaccines eliminate the need for bioreactors because they themselves are the bioreactors. Plants can be grown in climate-controlled, pharmaceutical-grade greenhouses that keep out bugs and pests but do not require sterile conditions." From WIKI Plant expressed vaccine From Canada: Medicago Vaccine Could Help Smoke Out Coronavirus

Agree it looks crazy hard to explain. But the image says number of tests looking for disease (cases). This might not include other tests used during the treatment of patients. The number of patients is also shooting up and could explain the lower number of actual PCR tests available for new cases. What is totally incomprehensible is why, after 1.5 years, they have not increased their total PCR lab capacity, reported at max 80K. It's not hard to do or expensive, You can buy PCR machines on Ebay and some people do their own home PCR tests for other things. Maybe Anutin needs to authorize the expansion.

Actually it is, and it did! But as usual the real story is more complicated. Vietnam has had many variants including Alpha and kept them all at bay until Delta hit. Then you see the classic slowly rising curve that explodes in June. In early June they did report a new variant of Delta that acquired a major mutation found in UK-Alpha, spike deletion Y144del. The made global headline news and its genome registered in the International GISAID database. But then Vietnam reported it as a recombination which is technically the wrong word. WHO pounced on them for using a scary word and the MSM buried the story. Lucky, most of what is in Vietnam is still basic Delta, which is so infective it is hard to replace. The sharp upturn may have been due to this variant. GISAID genome EPI_ISL_2373110: Delta variant with Alpha mutation in red: AA Substitutions: Spike A222V, Spike D614G, Spike D950N, Spike E156G, Spike F157del, Spike G142D, Spike L452R, Spike P681R, Spike R158del, Spike T19R, Spike T478K, Spike Y144del, M I82T, N D63G, N D377Y, N R203M, NS3 S26L, NS7a T120I, NS7a V82A, NSP2 P200S, NSP3 P822L, NSP4 A446V, NSP6 T181I, NSP6 V149A, NSP12 G671S, NSP12 P323L, NSP13 P77L Link to full story: https://theconversation.com/is-a-hybrid-covid-strain-behind-vietnams-latest-wave-not-exactly-161879

Wow, yawned so hard I nearly broke my jaw! Thailand discussion: "Which way to the market?" "Turn left." "But there is no road to the left." "Then turn right." "Thank you.", seeing there's no road the the right either.