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Dirty Harry this, Dirty Harry that. Looks like someone's bordering on the verge of insanity.

Personally I think we need more Dirty Harry types on the force to protect law avoiding citizens from Michael Brown gangbanger-thug types.

"We" need more of what and who on the force?

How many of you watched the video of this 'child' robbing the store?

His very actions show him for what he was.Does anyone believe that this was an 'out of character' offense.

The way he barged into the shop assistant shows him for someone who believes in right through might and 'how dare anyone interfere with me?'

How can you handle such people who believe they are invincible and who have no regard for the law or other people's property??

"How can you handle such people who believe they are invincible and who have no regard for the law or other people's property??"

Constitutionally.

And consistent with a respect of the laws you enforce.

And with respect toward all the citizens you serve and protect.

That is what the police do, right?

Officers of the peace....

Or do the police only arrive in armored weapons on wheels surrounded by armed combatants on the trot?

That I respond to your question does not at all mean I recognize it as legitimate or valid.

(Did you write or read the movie script?)

I was taught that A policeman's job was..'TO PREVENT CRIME'.

That's what you get when you let all those "new immigrant" types into your secular democratic countries. I really feel bad for Western Europe, seeing how their 30 years of political correctness has come back to chop off their heads.

Seems to me you Brits need a Second Amendment.

Mass immigration of illiterates was Macmillan's way of destroying the powerful trade unions of 50's Britain and at the same time ending the unity of the white working class.

Wit the huge numbers arriving weekly/daily it would only take a generation to forget that there was once only a white working class in Britain.[who remembers the letters written on walls .K.B.W..?]

And with the prosecuting and jailing of the Notting Hill 6 it ensured no real threat to these new arrivals.

I well remember the women wearing flimsy skimpy coloured short skirts with 'olive oyle' knees...

The men all wore double breasted suits of either bottle green,brown or navy.All 2 sizes too large .

...'Well dressed' you liberals will quickly point out...

The reality was that the men had few[if any] clothes and this attire was handed to them...They were left over from the war office surplus requirements of the demob suits from 1945.

The English returning from the war were too thin for these oversized suits.

First Lee Rigby. And now this?

The UK really needs to wake up to this homegrown terror threat.

You may call it 'home grown'; but the roots are foreign immigrants..

Also read the names of the neighbours.

None in England would have had such names when I was living in the borough of Enfield 50 years ago.

It is the place many immigrants head for as the housing and benefit offices are run by [the real rulers of welfare in Edmonton] left wing loonies who made it their business to work in such positions.

Edmonton is now ruled by black gangs who have divided the borough into territories .The white kids must defer to these gang leaders and now speak in 'Jamaican patoir' to get by.

Many of these gang leaders have aggressive dogs on chain leads.

When stopped [not often] by the police they claim they are 'Walking their grandmother's dog'.

How many of you watched the video of this 'child' robbing the store?

His very actions show him for what he was.Does anyone believe that this was an 'out of character' offense.

The way he barged into the shop assistant shows him for someone who believes in right through might and 'how dare anyone interfere with me?'

How can you handle such people who believe they are invincible and who have no regard for the law or other people's property??

Pity the ignorance of those who think the blacks are always victims. If they want, they can achieve even Presidency. The victim...will be exonerated..surely. Not because he was right or wrong, but for the fear of civil unrest. A white victim would not have caused such a stir.

The United States, as I used to know it, can no longer function, as it has no choice but to give in to civil unrest. This thing spreads like wildfire. The pendulum will soon swing in favor of the minority. America is pretty much finished, as a Protestant, Middle Class White system. Our biggest strength (Freedom) will tear down the walls of racial distinction once and for all. Rights of Assembly, rights to bear arms, rights to freedom of speech, and a Constitution founded on a freedom from tyranny are the very "strengths" that will implode inward. Perhaps for the best.

Racial card has been played well.

As you mentioned, the system was flawed from the very beginning.

It has to be said though that the founding fathers had white europeans in mind when writing the constitution etc.

I also see a real chance of civil/race war and various states going -or tryin to- their own way.

Yes. Certainly some signers of the Constitution, and amendments, were pro-slavery...and in fact owned slaves themselves. That is why States were given power to decide for themselves. This power has almost vanished, with the Federal Government filling in the gaps. When Federal power fails, federal funding is withheld...leading to the very same thing (Federal Control).

I love my country, and served them well, but I hope for the best, not the worst. What I am referring to is a positive change, not negative. Imploding by it's own strength is an analogy to how, for example, an old star collapses (implodes) and becomes even stronger and more dynamic. A positive change. Minorities (Together) exceed the white, protestant, law makers and citizens...in numbers. The balance has shifted, now government is at a critical-mass level. It must hear and protect the minority voice. That is the change I am conveying. With a minority president (first time)...this will be the moment.

Unfortunately the unemployed/benefit dependent have the right to vote .

They are now in such numbers that they are the ones with the power to decide who runs the country.

Same in Britain.

If you want to see a non white community that overcame problems to become successful, look no further than the Asian community. However, they value education and hard work.

However in Britain they have no values for the country and people that gave them residence along with the right to vote

In America, "Asians" mostly means Oriental - Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese, etc. In the UK, I'm pretty sure that it usually means Indian or Pakistani.

yes plus the many from Bangladesh.

There are few,if any.problems with the Chinese or Japanese

Re Pakistani men's treatment of women.

There was a program on Thai television a couple of years back.

It was about middle class ladies who wanted to marry with Pakistan men who were working in America and had green cards or citizenship.These men [many] claimed they wanted to marry with brides from the home country.and take to America.The respectable ladies married these men in Pakistan and after the honeymoon were taken into the husband's home to 'help' the mothers' while the men went back to America to 'arrange passports and travel'.

The women were treated as slaves in the household but the men never intended to take them to America.The women remained in the households or had to leave and become homeless. They could not return to their own homes as they were now worthless used women .

I believe some of these men 'married' in Pakistan a few times

If you want to see a non white community that overcame problems to become successful, look no further than the Asian community. However, they value education and hard work.

However in Britain they have no values for the country and people that gave them residence along with the right to vote

The truth, by definition, can not be racist.

It's true these were Pakistanis, to say otherwise is simply not the truth

It's true these were Muslims, to say otherwise is simply not the truth.

If you speak the truth then no right minded person can call you racist.

actually i dont care about being called fascist never did but then i never used to be but now i am and after seeing panorama film on this even though a lot of blame can be laid at door of Police Social workers and even parents at the end of the day it was muslims who did this and allowed to do it.

So now I'm 100% fascist against most muslims and dont care if I'm banned or prosecuted for saying what 90% + of UK are saying privately

Id even go as far as voting for total exclusion of all muslims form UK and even though i used to loathe BNP would probably vote for them even if it was just to jolt authorities out of their PC crap

The problem for the BNP is. People in the majority of areas without at least a minority non muslim population won't vote for them. So at best they will pick up council seats. People need a kick in the nuts to start to vote BNP. Like my ex card carrying hard left Labour supporter friends back in Dewsbury..

The press have always filmed violence at BNP and NF rallies.

What they do not show is the violence comes from anti demonstrators [loony left thugs].

Why would the BNP hold a rally and start violence?

The stupid white folk have decided that the BNP is composed of illiterate thugs thankdsto the clever portrayal of them on tv and in the press.

Billy Bragg has a an interesting perspective.

"he news from Rotherham this week - 1400 children abused while the authorities did nothing - is shocking. Some have been quick to use the fact that this abuse was perpetrated by men of Pakistani heritage to make racist and Islamophobic points. But if you look at other recent scandals of men abusing children, you'll find that what they have is common is not their ethnicity or faith, but their ability to escape reproach.

Catholic priests, national celebrities and Pakistani men in Rotherham were each able to rely on the reluctance of those in authority - social services, police, sometimes even the victim's own families - to challenge their behaviour. In each case, the authorities gave these evil men the benefit of the doubt, while telling their victims that it was their fault that they were being abused.

There needs to be a change of attitude towards the victims of abuse, they need to be listened to and evidence of their abuse needs to be gathered so that their abusers can be prosecuted. And no excuses should be accepted from the authorities as to why they didn't collect evidence and act on it. Nothing, not rank, fame, ethnicity nor wealth should stand in the way of bringing such evil men to justice."

The difference here was that these were groups of the same race who openly shared their victims and sold them to others from their race. I have never heard of a group of White Englishmen that would carry out such horrific crimes against vulnerable young girls. There is a culture difference that many of you do not want to see.

You must have your eyes firmly closed. Do not organised groups of 'White Englishmen' sexual abusers of boys and girls come under the heading of horrific crimes. It's been going on for decades, including the videoing and distribution for sale of content; child pornography. There are fairly regular reports of the rings being busted. Here's an example that covers the members of one ring at the highest level of 'White Englishmen'.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10950111/The-alleged-paedophile-ring-at-the-heart-of-the-British-Establishment.html

As I wrote .....Many of you do not want to see the cultural difference.

Sharing photos and pornographic pictures by baby/ child would be abusers is vastly different from what these Pakistani Muslims were doing..

They were doing this openly with family members knowledge

You can distribute photos ,e-mails and still be anonymous.

Open YOUR eyes to the real world.

Billy Bragg has a an interesting perspective.

"he news from Rotherham this week - 1400 children abused while the authorities did nothing - is shocking. Some have been quick to use the fact that this abuse was perpetrated by men of Pakistani heritage to make racist and Islamophobic points. But if you look at other recent scandals of men abusing children, you'll find that what they have is common is not their ethnicity or faith, but their ability to escape reproach.

Catholic priests, national celebrities and Pakistani men in Rotherham were each able to rely on the reluctance of those in authority - social services, police, sometimes even the victim's own families - to challenge their behaviour. In each case, the authorities gave these evil men the benefit of the doubt, while telling their victims that it was their fault that they were being abused.

There needs to be a change of attitude towards the victims of abuse, they need to be listened to and evidence of their abuse needs to be gathered so that their abusers can be prosecuted. And no excuses should be accepted from the authorities as to why they didn't collect evidence and act on it. Nothing, not rank, fame, ethnicity nor wealth should stand in the way of bringing such evil men to justice."

The difference here was that these were groups of the same race who openly shared their victims and sold them to others from their race. I have never heard of a group of White Englishmen that would carry out such horrific crimes against vulnerable young girls. There is a culture difference that many of you do not want to see.

Calculating people who are convinced they are cunning keep avoiding my valid and material question.

And now comes the Joyce Brothers rat psychology and banal diversion of "watching loads of TV and movies" as the basis of my world view.

I asked then repeated my legitimate question yet I continue to get intellectually trite and culturally glib circumventions of it. Inadequacies abound.

It's become apparent those who dance on Michael Brown's grave among other posters are woefully unable to respond to my question in any thoughtful or constructive, rational way.

Lest the manufacturers of blue smoke and mirrors forget, here verbatim and again is my legit question: The question is what do people of initiative do to address this serious challenge to U.S. society?

To paraphrase Melville, call me Diogenes.

I see that you have used as a statistic of black juvenile crime the number of ARRESTS for B.J.C.

I do not see how this figure can be used to show actual B.J.C as the number of blacks that commit crime

An arrest of a B.J is difficult due to the mob tactics used in much crime and the silence of those in the black community.

I would like to know the number of criminal complaints about black crime..Although many now do not report street robbery where there was no violence.The black gangs have learned to only use violence where there is resistance..Hence the black gangs..

In London these gangs know that robbing young white teens is the best tactic.They surround the youngsters [usually 2 white schoolboys] and demand their money and phones.

Often in crowded places..Oxford street around midday is a favourite].

They know that if seen by the public arguing with the victims the public will not interfere as they will believe it is a schoolboy argument over football or similar.

They deliberately do not prey on lone females ...I am speaking of black juveniles .

In the early 1970's talk radio came to London with some creep by the name of Brian Hayes presenting.

He had a chat show about immigration and who was for/against immigration.

My next door neighbour was with me .

I said it was all staged .He disagreed.He was pro immigration.

I said ok lets phone and see .

He was asked by the operator of talk radio if he was pro or anti immigration.He said pro.

I was asked the same question...

He was put on within a couple of minutes.I was left holding a line for the length of the program and had merely a few seconds before being cut off due to 'out of time'.

I believe there was only one other person on the radio that spoke against immigration.

Are people in the UK starting to wake up?

The soon to be minority white population of Britain has known most of this for years.'.

The fear of being branded 'racist' and the fear of immigrants living in their locality taking action against them has kept them silent and praying that 'somebody' will do something about it.

I deliberately did not use the word so loved by the left wing...'Community'...This implies everybody gets along...Locality will suffice.

Publicus obviously watches loads of TV and movies which nowadays deliberately place black men in positions of power.

They also ensure that in the background of society gatherings ,first class restaurants and similar hi so events there are black men conversing with beautiful and elegant white females.

This is very clever as it subtly puts this fiction as fact into your subconscious.

Having worked in dense black populated areas I KNOW the truth of black behaviour.

to understand the problems with black s being shot by the white police you would have to have been brought up as I was.

In an all white society [50.000 blacks in Britain in 1954] where the government imported thousands of illiterate blacks weekly .

England in the 50's under Macmillan.

Society changed rapidly.These newcomers were given every opportunity to become part of British society.

From living on scraps scavenged from scrap heaps in Jamaica they were given public housing,free schooling for their vast numbers of offspring,Free medical treatment.and taxpayers money.

Many were given opportunities in jobs and schemes were devised at taxpayers expense to create places at colleges and programs designed to help those with [almost all] learning difficulties who claimed they could not find work because of discrimination.

We,the white folk tried to welcome them into our communities but somehow they were'different'.

We had welcomed the Jewish,Polish, Italians and refugees from the war who brought up their children to understand and mainly join in British culture without any problems.

These newcomers did not attempt to become 'british' and were content to become bullies at school and found it was easier to steal,mug [new word] and deal in drugs than to actually work for a living.

In a few years from being safe to walk London's street it became necessary to scuttle home quickly after work for the native british.

When reporting street crime in the late 60's and 70's the perpetrators [usually a gang] were almost always described as being 'coloured.

The british press often reported 'RACIST ATTACK' ...with few other details and the white families huddled around their televisions were left to suppose the white thugs were attacking defenseless 'coloured folk.

Years later the commissioner of police agreed that it was almost always black attacking lone white people.

That's an open and welcome statement of a serious socio-economic challenge to society as you see it.

It has a certain refreshing quality to it because there has been a ton more of heat than light at the thread.

I grew up in the America Prez Eisenhower was using the Army to desegregate in compliance with the SCOTUS 1954 unanimous ruling to desegregate the nation's schools "with all deliberate speed."

My turf was a rough and tumble working stiff industrial neighborhood in the northeast U.S. that included black families and I had many black friends who welcomed me into their homes and into their street and neighborhood groups alike.

Over the decades since I've continued to integrate comfortably into black society wherever I've lived in the U.S. to include in the deep South where I also experienced the struggle of many middle class white families to overcome the region's particular historical cultural biases and prejudices concerning race.

In short, I've always been involved and engaged in the struggle.

So what's your contribution? What have you done lately to light a candle no matter how small the flame?.

I used to always vote for The National Front.

The BBC finally gave the N.F leader a slot on TV.

Up against the formidable Sir Robin Day..

Day was spouting about how 'we had destroyed the African Nation.He loved this sound and repeated it a few times...

He was then crushed with the quiet response..

'What do you keep talking about?..The African Nation???..There never WAS an African Nation..just savages hunting and killing each other..

Day assumed the role of a godfish in a bowl for the rest of the brief programme

Nearly two times a week in the United States, a white police officer killed a black person during a seven-year period ending in 2012, according to the most recent accounts of justifiable homicide reported to the FBI.

Black youths - who make up 16% of the youth population - accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58% for homicide and 67% for robbery in USA. They also account for 32% of all weapons arrests. Is it any wonder they are often involved in justified officer shootings?

I notice the statement..'52%of juvenile violent crime ARRESTS...?

I merely wonder what is the actual statistic of black juvenile violent crime?

to understand the problems with black s being shot by the white police you would have to have been brought up as I was.

In an all white society [50.000 blacks in Britain in 1954] where the government imported thousands of illiterate blacks weekly .

England in the 50's under Macmillan.

Society changed rapidly.These newcomers were given every opportunity to become part of British society.

From living on scraps scavenged from scrap heaps in Jamaica they were given public housing,free schooling for their vast numbers of offspring,Free medical treatment.and taxpayers money.

Many were given opportunities in jobs and schemes were devised at taxpayers expense to create places at colleges and programs designed to help those with [almost all] learning difficulties who claimed they could not find work because of discrimination.

We,the white folk tried to welcome them into our communities but somehow they were'different'.

We had welcomed the Jewish,Polish, Italians and refugees from the war who brought up their children to understand and mainly join in British culture without any problems.

These newcomers did not attempt to become 'british' and were content to become bullies at school and found it was easier to steal,mug [new word] and deal in drugs than to actually work for a living.

In a few years from being safe to walk London's street it became necessary to scuttle home quickly after work for the native british.

When reporting street crime in the late 60's and 70's the perpetrators [usually a gang] were almost always described as being 'coloured.

The british press often reported 'RACIST ATTACK' ...with few other details and the white families huddled around their televisions were left to suppose the white thugs were attacking defenseless 'coloured folk.

Years later the commissioner of police agreed that it was almost always black attacking lone white people.

Some posters are talking like these offenders aren't British citizens. Most of them are, aren't they?

Brith is citizens they may be - but they are not of the same Religion and this is the crux of the matter.

If a dog is born in a stable - does that mean that it's an horse ??

The official religion of the UK is the Anglican Communion; that is the Church of England, Church of Ireland, Church in Wales and Scottish Episcopal Church.

So, are you saying that Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterians, Methodists, and other Christian sects, not to mention non Christians such as Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs should not be classed as British?

What about atheists?

Or does your ridiculous remark only apply to Muslims?

When MCC are playing test matches who do you think the black,and Asian people are supporting and shouting for?

A few decades ago in England the word 'mugging' became part of English language.

Black men in groups would accost and rob lone folk -young boys,women and the elderly -and steal whatever money they had .

These perpetrators were ALWAYS described to police as 'coloured'...

Police began stopping and searching groups of young black men .

The P.C brigade were outraged by this tactic and the police had to stop carrying out 'stop and search' of blacks.

Now in England the black youth wear legal disguise[hoodies] and many carry large knives and now guns.

Many have dangerous dogs that they are 'walking for my grandmother,its her dog'

Many estates are no go areas for police and fire services.

The working class of the 60's could have stopped this just by voting for the National Front who were the only party that would have kicked out those already here [britain] and prevented any immigration of illiterates.

Instead they were brainwashed into believing that the NF when out on the streets engaged in violent acts.

The working class were too dumb to realize that the NF were defending themselves from the thugs that preached for 'tolerance' and peaceful multiculturism.

I always voted for the NF as it was the only way I was allowed to state I was against mass immigration.

Churchill stated in parliament in 1954.'The biggest threat to Britain,at this time, is the prospect of mass coloured immigration'.

He started a bill to prevent this but had to retire before it was seen through.

Macmillan ,wh hated the powerful working class threw the bill out and sent minions to the Caribbean to recruit illiterates to destroy the working class by sheer weight of numbers

That was the beginning of the end.