PepperMe

Someone who reads Thai told me this is a 'movie'....in other words, scripted. There are credits at the end, apparently, that tell who was driving each car.

Not surprising, I guess, given PepperMe's history of posting factually inaccurate information on this board.

FAKE!

You must be some sort of numpty.

My wife brought this to my attention and she is saying you can not read Thai properly.

This is NOT a movie it is real and the text at the end is by the owner of the video which basically just promotes his own link.

The actual video itself is real and if you really want to make me look stupid then please translate the thai text and my wife will veryify it.

You are basically saying you know more about Thais thyan Thais do.

You sir are one who is peddling fiction.

Funny. And if you go to that weblink, it says....wait for it....."TV Channel", lol.

You do a good enough job making yourself look stupid so you probably don't really need my help in that regard.

(Btw, did it ever occur to you that perhaps it's your wife that can't read or comprehend things very well?)

Because it was on lots of NEWS STATIONS last night.......

So you are saying if it is on the NEWS or on an internet TV channel it is fake?

You know nowt about the internet of youtube channels do you?

Here is the RAW dash cam footage just to keep you happy. If you still insist this is fake, and that thery deliberatly cuased an accident with a brand new expensive car out in what is obviously regular traffic, then I am afraid you are beyond help, but don't let that stop you from seeking a professional opinion. On your mental health that is.

So you are so incensed at Thai driving habits that you are not prepared to consider for one minute that some social media viral videos can be faked are you Mike?

I thought it was an interesting perspective, not a piece of Thai apologism.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not defending Thai driving, which to this Brit is incredibly selfish and sometimes lacking in skill. However I don't find it as universally diabolical as it's painted by some. Try Turkey and Iran if you think Thailand has the worst drivers.

Agreed and a few other places i can think of are a lot worse than Thailand, maybe a lot of TV finest experts are of the opinion that Thailand is the worst simply because the only place they have travelled to out side their utopian farangistan ghetto is Thailand

But on that point, you can not ignore Thailand's ranking in the global road deaths league.

So don't be surprised if people rightly get the impression that it is terrible on the roads of this country.

Someone who reads Thai told me this is a 'movie'....in other words, scripted. There are credits at the end, apparently, that tell who was driving each car.

Not surprising, I guess, given PepperMe's history of posting factually inaccurate information on this board.

FAKE!

So you're actually defending them are you? Are you trying to say they are angels on the roads?

I bet you have never driven a car or even ridden a scooter in Thailand have you?

Your missing the point, the OP has posted something which he claims was a real event, and it transpires that this may in fact be staged, therefore he is misrepresenting something either due to ignorance or an agenda

Erm.... agenda? what could that be I wonder. I made a point to say 'here in Thailand or overseas' so that rules out Thai bashing. hmmm.... Agenda.

It is not for me to prove this is authentic, it is up to you to prove it is fake.

I have provided links to news sites and one of the sites contains the video in its more raw form.

Finally it does not make sense to deliberately damage an expensive car to mock up a road rage incident that can be seen everywhere in Thailand and the world over without going to such expense.

I would say that not only logic, but also weighty evidence points to this being in fact real, and the fact that some guy polished it up to promote his own channel does not make this fake. I do believe that the ignorance dwells elsewhere on this thread.

Someone who reads Thai told me this is a 'movie'....in other words, scripted. There are credits at the end, apparently, that tell who was driving each car.

Not surprising, I guess, given PepperMe's history of posting factually inaccurate information on this board.

FAKE!

So you're actually defending them are you? Are you trying to say they are angels on the roads?

I bet you have never driven a car or even ridden a scooter in Thailand have you?

You should have read some of the crap he was coming out with yesterday.

He lives in cloud cuckoo land.

This clip has even been on the NEWS.

If anyone can read good Thai, then here it is for yourself.

http://www.bangkokbiznews.com/news/detail/655522

http://www.manager.co.th/HotShare/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9580000076423

Oh how I love it when people lose an argument at every turn, they come back and try to undermine you in other threads and end up making themselves look stupid two days in a row.

Someone who reads Thai told me this is a 'movie'....in other words, scripted. There are credits at the end, apparently, that tell who was driving each car.

Not surprising, I guess, given PepperMe's history of posting factually inaccurate information on this board.

FAKE!

You must be some sort of numpty.

My wife brought this to my attention and she is saying you can not read Thai properly.

This is NOT a movie it is real and the text at the end is by the owner of the video which basically just promotes his own link.

The actual video itself is real and if you really want to make me look stupid then please translate the thai text and my wife will veryify it.

You are basically saying you know more about Thais thyan Thais do.

You sir are one who is peddling fiction.

For all those who have suffered at the hands of drivers like this whether in Thailand or overseas, should enjoy this video that has gone viral across the internet.

For the record, the police have already collared him, and he works for Mitsubishi and his boss has already cinfirmed he has been fired.

watch from 1 minute onwards.

"common misconception that all farang will be ripped off by their wives and end up losing everything. To be honest, in the 5 years I have been here, I am yet to meet a farang who has fallen this way."

1. you must not meet many farangs. I'd say odds might be 50-50, but if farang leaves common sense and judgement at the airport, who's to blame.

2. Plenty of girlfriends rip off too

3 General populace of many countries ignorant of anything beyond their borders: Thais think USA is part of Europe, know some Americans who think Taiwan and Thailand same place.

4. USA blasted regularly here with silly prejudices too, like everyone gets shot at. Thailand has higher gross numbers of gunshot homicides than USA.

5. Every place has it's issues and assets. Get used to it.

6. I started coming to Thailand in 1982, and it wasn't for sex.

So 50% of farangs you know have been ripped off by their wives?

Thailand has higher gun deaths than USA?

I hope you are not offended, but you are clearly lying.

I think the op dose not know much about thailand at all , some of the things are wright but I have seen first hand how western man get ripe of here and I am not a farlang ok I am from the west , farlang is a racist word .

Lol.... So you think all that is Thailand encompassed do you?

You need to get out of Pattaya more.

I have lived in Korat for 5 years, and I would not know where to go to find a prostitute. But then agai, I have no need for one being married and all that.

I have lived in Korat for 5 years, and I would not know where to go to find a prostitute

You need to get out of the house more.

I dont live in Korat, but have visited often enough to know where in Korat to go.

Where do you think the locals go?

Not sure about karat but thai prostitute are all over thailand and how the hell would you know I am in Pattaya .

I made a comment about the op and all you people out there know everything about thailand and I am wrong.

I am saying on what I have seen coming and going to thailand over the last 7 years .

So coming and going for 7 years... That makes you a sex tourist then... So that just strengthens the fact that you have never come out of the resorts......

These Perceptions of Thailand have been around for nearly 2 decades, yet the op still came here..

I studied Thailand for a year before I came here, and could even speak some token Thai.

I did my research..... Obviously you came here yourself for the adult attractions.

Not everyone has the same idea of Thailand as the ignorant.

Do not forget that many of the people who post here rarely impinge upon the 'real' Thailand.

So many foreigners here live their lives in their own little ivory towers, in some mainly foreign condo or complex, going down to the beach, shopping in air con centres ... doing what, essentially, visitors do.

Often we see that the opinions of those people stand out clearly here - they have no conception of what life is truly like for the average Thai worker.

Those commenters should really be the ones we blame for a poor image of Thailand - all they do is complain, with no rhyme nor reason nor understanding.

What is the real Thailand then ?

The natives picking rice in the fields, eating leaves from the side of the road and are happy with their lot in life, while the farang bwana sits on his stoep drinking his gin and topic and discussing the "old country"

one suspects it you who doesn't know what the real Thailand is, you have a vision of what YOU want Thailand to be,not what it is in reality

who do you think those air conned shopping center are for ?... for tourists ?

Well in Korat the air con malls are full of Thais.

I see people in the UK picking blackberries on the side of the road... so what? Free food isn't it?

Millions of people in the UK are living in poverty unable to pay their bills, and having to go to food banks.

Understand what the OP's trying to say but not why he feels so aggrieved by it.

Most countries will be stereotyped to some extent and while it's not always pleasant, some of those stereotypes often have basis in actual fact.

Oh right.

I am aggrieved by it because on the other forum where I been having the conversation, no matter how much I try to convince people that Thailand is not a what their perception is in totality and that there is in fact very much more to this place than what they think.

They see it as nothing more than a retarded nation that is baron and outside the capital and resorts everyone is living in abject poverty.

You can go to the UK and find exactly the same.

But as much as I try to explain there is a lot more to it, they will not accept it.... All westerners are only here to have sex with prostitutes and children.... It just is not true... I wanted to see what the reactions of people who actually live here think... Is it everything they think and nothing else?

I think the op dose not know much about thailand at all , some of the things are wright but I have seen first hand how western man get ripe of here and I am not a farlang ok I am from the west , farlang is a racist word .

Lol.... So you think all that is Thailand encompassed do you?

You need to get out of Pattaya more.

I have lived in Korat for 5 years, and I would not know where to go to find a prostitute. But then agai, I have no need for one being married and all that.

I have lived in Korat for 5 years, and I would not know where to go to find a prostitute

You need to get out of the house more.

I dont live in Korat, but have visited often enough to know where in Korat to go.

Where do you think the locals go?

I get out a hell of a lot.

I do not go looking for it, you do.... So what?

What i am saying is that it is well hidden and not in your face like in Nana or Walking Street. Outside of those few red light districts, it is well hidden. I have no need for those places. This is like saying that even though most major cities in the UK also have their red light districts, that the UK is one big red light district..... again, laughable.

Common Perceptions

not directed at Thailand specifically but perceptions are usually grounded in actual events that become generalizations/stereotypes

Are you suggesting that some of the things you list as perceptions as regards Thailand, never happened or don't happen in Thailand ?....if they have happened then they are not perceptions then, do they happen to everyone..No

just to pick up on few of your examples:

"be all and end all" of Thailand is the sex industry...are you doubting the role of the sex industry in Thailand or denying it exists in a big way in Thailand ?

"facade" of tidy western hotels, lies extreme poverty.- I suggest you open your eyes then this could in fact be true dependent on ones interpretation of "extreme poverty"

But considering the staggering amount of expats in Thailand, and how many would staggering be ?

Oh they happen, and they exist but the generalizations are actually nothing more than isolated cases, yet the bigger picture of what Thailand actually has to offer is way more than these stereotypes. Outside of a few locations frequented by tourists and the western media profile of the place, there is a very different country with a great culture, great lifestyle and great prospects.

Remember, the OP relates to the stereotypes being applied to Thailand in it entirety. Which of course is laughable.

OP, you are saying that people in a "completely Thai unrelated forum based in the UK", are bashing Thailand out of ignorance.

What about the people on TVF that is a "completely Thai related" forum, and most members live here.

Did you notice any similarities?

The thread is not about people bashing Thailand... We who live here, bash about individual things, or we agree or disagree. Some bash and some defend. That happens in just about every country. The people on this UK forum relentlessly bash the UK.

This thread is about the perception of Thailand by people who have never even been here.

My message in this, is that their common perception if true..... we would not be here.... Are you here?... Is it so bad you want to leave??????

This news is seriously making my day.

USA opening its borders and closing down homeland security?

Hmmmm...... Now what is going on behind the scenes here?.... another major psychological assault on the American people perhaps?

Need more justification for another huge war in the middle east perhaps?

I put nothing past this lot. Not since the 9/11 inside job.

Here starts the first default in the Eurozone bailout fiascoes.

Greece throws a major spanner in the worlds biggest ponzi scheme.

I hope they come out smiling.

This is not going to be allowed to prosper. It is against US policy whatever they claim it to be... The wise know better.

This is the first sign in the break in the ranks between the EU and US foreign policy of aggression.

Two possible reasons for this... The EU leaders are starting to see through the US and the way they have instigated this crisis from the start, or it is because since the US mentioned the words "lethal aid" the leaders have realised that they are going to be pushed into a highly probable world war with Russia and its allies, something not a single European country will desire.

Even if an agreement comes hot off the press, I can guarantee you it will not sit well with the USA. They will probably either ship their "lethal aid" forcing Russia to pull out of any agreement, or they will engage in covert operations to re-destabilize the region once again provoking Russia to breech the agreement.

Whatever they choose to do, they will make sure it looks to the world like Russia is causing the problems.

Merkel and Hollande are wasting their time. They would be much better off brokering a deal for peace with a condition that if the USA interferes, the EU will vote against being a US ally.

Also the lifting of sanctions should be on the table. Russia gets sanctions put on them for doing nothing different than what the USA does almost every year somewhere in the world.

She does not have the right to travel if she has been told she can not travel, it is as simple as that.

No point crowing on about rule of law or the legal processes. This is not a regular criminal case. She was not arrested and bailed pending charges like you would expect many other criminal case, whereas even before charges, you would not be allowed to leave the country.

This case has come directly from the OAG, so is not going along the same procedural lines. If the OAG has sent the case to the courts like he said he is. Then it is a signed, sealed and delivered situation of a criminal case being imminent.

Yinglucks lawyers are just once again crawling around looking for loopholes and comparing this to an everyday criminal case.... It is not.

The situation since day one is that anyone summoned by the Junta since the coup, MUST apply for permission to travel..... It is as simple as that.

However, Having said that... If she is found guilty and given a few days grace before sentencing, you can but your life she will be smuggled out over the border to Cambodia with her Montenegro passport probably by private helicopter, and then on to her country of choice that does not have extradition treaties with Thailand..... and that is the last you will see of her.

This Merkel and Hollande movement is the first signs that the EU are starting to break ranks from the USA foreign policy of intimidation towards Russia. Maybe they have woken up and come to their senses and seen the USA as having instigated this conflict from the very start and are now in an escalation mode. Or they have realised that the US is going to push them into a war that their people are going to be dead against.

Whatever it is, there is no way the US are going to accept this. They need the conflict to grow or their plans are scuppered. Russia WILL attack the Dollar and the US fake economy WILL collapse. 2015 is the year.

I thought Jatuporn Prompan was in prison and if not why not

Bail pending an appeal which he will buy his way out of the sentence via corrupt supreme court judges.

He has the money, he will not see prison, his conviction will be over-turned.