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The Mediterranean states and just as likely the eastern European states in the Euro will be looking on in dismay at the aggressive nature of the ECB... Something they have all paid into.

Greece should stand by it guns. Moves like this are nothing more than punitive.

Sod the Euro, sod the ECB and sod the EU.... Greece should pull out of the Euro, default and then return to the Drachma, that is what the EU fears the most. If the EU gets shirty about it, then pull out of the Union completely and ride its own fate.

Many will follow, and I hope it will collapse the EU completely.

Somsri Paosawas, chairperson of the National Alliance for Tobacco-Free Thailand,

Yeah sure..... You will be the only country on earth that is in line with the ISIS caliphate.

Give em a break.... They haven't hidden it all yet......................... like the others.

Woops.

5 years on its way.

Wow.... A Law?

So if they do not deliver on time we can have them arrested?

It is about time they crushed this dangerous red shirt movement.... They know who most of them are.

Also outlaw the UDD and ban all leaders from meeting with any other leader in the future and every known member on pain of death.

The US will reap what it has sown for its greed and global dominance policy.

The end is coming very soon.

Do not mess with the bear, it is NOT Iraq.

Russia will have most of the world on its side, the US will not even have ANY EU countries backing it in a war with Russia, China, India, Middle East South America. Even the UK will vote against a war with Russia.

Russia and China knows this and the world are just about pig sick of US aggression and meddling in other country's affairs.

I hope they try it..... I really do.

I feel sorry for the US people, they will all be dead against this, but their government will be doing it in their name anyway, whether they like it or not. The world are going to be terrified, and rightly so.

But if the US people do not come out and stop this aggression and build up to a possible apocalyptic scenario, then I guess they deserve what they get.

Unfortunately there is a minority of brain dead gung ho individuals who think the US is always right and they can crush anyone on the planet with their military might..... There are a few on here actually.... They are deluded and when the time comes, I suggest they sign up for combat.

For those bleating that Russia has invaded Ukraine and that Russian troops are aiding East Ukraine rebels, perhaps you would like to read what a Ukraine General has to say about the matter...

Ukrainian Government: “No Russian Troops Are Fighting Against Us”. Sanctions against Russia based on Falsehoods

The Chief of Staff of Ukraine’s Armed Forces, General Viktor Muzhenko, is saying, in that news-report, which is dated on Thursday January 29th, that the only Russian citizens who are fighting in the contested region, are residents in that region, or of Ukraine, and also some Russian citizens (and this does not deny that perhaps some of other countries’ citizens are fighting there, inasmuch as American mercenaries have already been noted to have been participating on the Ukrainian Government’s side), who “are members of illegal armed groups,” meaning fighters who are not paid by any government, but instead are just “individual citizens” (as opposed to foreign-government-paid ones). General Muzhenko also says, emphatically, that the “Ukrainian army is not fighting with the regular units of the Russian army.”

In other words: He is explicitly and clearly denying the very basis for the EU’s sanctions against Russia, and for the U.S.’s sanctions against Russia: all of the sanctions against Russia are based on the falsehood that Ukraine is fighting against “the regular units of the Russian army” — i.e., against the Russian-Government-controlled-and-trained fighting forces.

The same cannot be said about US troops on the ground in Ukraine...

Putin is indeed being very cautious this time around, in the present offensive and for good reason.

When the shelling of Mariupol began again last week Nato started talking about cutting off Russia from the SWIFT electronic banking system based in Belgium then the shelling suddenly stopped.

There's no question who is in command of whatever irregular armed forces there are in Ukraine that are fighting against the Ukraine regular military forces.

Once again you show everyone on here that you constantly talk through your back end.

Russia and China are already pulling out of SWIFT it is old news, this has been on the cards since last year.

They are going to produce their own alternative system..... Feel free to look it up on Google.

This payment system will allow other countries to do clandestine trading that the US will not be able to spy on or control.

You will now try to come back with some crap like "China will not dump SWIFT, it will lose lots of trade".... Lol... China trades worldwide, the world needs Chinese manufacturing more than you think.... Everything is done on a price, a good price, that is why hundreds of major US brands are manufactured there.

So please stop your totally brainless comments such as India is not an ally of Russia and are a massive ally of the US...... hahaha.....too funny.

Yet another USA foreign policy driven mess backfired.

Thank you for ISIS Obama.

Edited to add..... That goes for you too Blair, I hope you end up in prison for your wreckless actions...... Bush never will.

People like you are a danger to the American people.

I will enjoy watching you eat those words when the US can not raise a coalition and Russia will have China, India, Most of the Middle East, N Korea and South America.

Then the US will back away........ they would be annihilated.

US dominance is at an end mate.

<<snip>>

Man you are seriously deluded, and just about everything in this post is wrong and is testament to typical American arrogance.

Which just makes it sweeter when the rest of the world watches you fail.

The US is living on borrowed time and many have said 2015 will be the start of the fall of the country, both economically and militarily, but much more important...... socially. You will see for yourself exactly what those 300 million guns will be used for.

India is an American ally?..... hahaha, I have heard it all now... do you not even bother doing a google check before you commit yourself on here?.....lol

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=will+India+ally+with+US+or+Russia

The posts are about the United States directly and categorically.

Ukraine is but a distant thought to these posts and so is Russia.

The focus is on the United States and against the United States.

Yet another who is obsessive compulsive.

HISS

Head in sand syndrome.

It calls the truth. The US and other Western control almost 99% of world mass-media. We can win if we will show only THE TRUTH

You must be kidding... The sheer volume of pure lies and fabricated stories shown in Russian television about Ukraine is just amazing. There are countless examples where it has been proven that the Russian television has been supplementing some stories with war videos from different parts of the world attributing these to happenings in Ukraine, or the people that are being interviewed with the same actors playing the part of Ukrainian soldiers, then rebels and then again some innocent civilians in different stories etc. etc.

I don't suppose you could post a link to these claims of Russian TV using actors that strangely swap sides?... That would be interesting to see.

I can show you that the US have instigated the Ukraine crisis from the start, and intend to have a war with Russia.

Here you go...come back next month after you have finished reading and watching all the reports detailing Russian lies about Ukraine...

http://www.stopfake.org/en/news/

Lies eh?

When the reports are backed up with actual US State Dept recordings of them deciding who makes up the Ukrainian cabinet?..... You do not class that as the US in total control of the Ukraine coup and neo nazi government THEY INSTALLED.

You are living in denial..... The USA is responsible for the Ukraine problem from start to finish, and that is so they can attack Russia with sanctions.... Well it is not going to work, and may end up with the US having to go to war, and they deserve it, because there will be a global coalition against them, and they will be defeated.

Then they will collapse..... Goodbye USA and good riddence.

Russia has been enjoying over 25 years of high oil prices, and has been massing USD and gold.... It is funny how the Yanks still have their heads stuck in 1940. They forget that it was the Russians who beat Germany in WW2......... Not the USA.

They seem to think a few months or even years of sanctions will destroy Russia when they went many centuries pre-oil era and went through communism with next to nothing and still managed to build up a formidable military and soviet union.

It is the US that is broke, they should have been bankrupt 10 years ago. It is only the reserve currency that is keeping them afloat. That will end this year. The USD is doomed and thus, so is the US..... Trying to wipe out Russia is not going to save them..

400 baht I can easily afford.

But on principle.... I will boycott all national parks from now on.

I doubt I will be the only one.

I keep saying this.... It is time the Junta stopped with this stupid softly softly approach with these sh*it stirring idiots and start throwing them in prison.

Their kid glove attitude adjustment approach is making them a laughing stock, and it frightens nobody.

Get tough, ban the PTP MPs that are causing trouble.

"You pay absolutely no regard to the fact that Russia could pull together a lethal coalition and it certainly would if it was to go toe to toe with the US."

What nations are you assuming will join this imaginary Russian coalition?

All those who hate the USA for its bullying around the world and its arrogance....... that is pretty much everyone.

It is a country with a false economy, a massive national debt, and is effectively broke.

The only thing holding it together is printing money out of thin air and relying on it as being the global reserve currency. Which is what China, Russia, India and about 133 other countries in the world have signed a pact to remove the USA and the USD from the equation.... That is why the US is being aggressive to Russia, and trying to bankrupt it, but it will not work... Russia has been massing gold as well as China, and when they have enough, they will dump all their USD along with many other countries and collapse the US economy and the currency.... That is the end of the USA.

This was kept away from the lot of you by the US government who banned it from being reported in the mainstream media...... as they do.

133 G77 Nations vow to destroy America’s New World Order

By Mark Wachtler

June 17, 2014. Bolivia. (ONN) The American and European media are doing everything they can to black this news out. But it’s not going to stay a secret for long. As of this weekend, there’s a new New World Order on Earth and its enemy is the United States, the EU, the UN Security Council and the world’s shadow government led by the IMF and WTO. This new alliance of poor countries wouldn’t be much of a threat, except it includes two-thirds of the world’s nations including China and India.

Read More Here. http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/2014/q2/133-g77-nations-vow-destroy-americas-new-world-order/

The G-77 which now has 133 members is UN sponsored since 1964 which is why UN SecGen Ban Ki Moon spoke before it at the Bolivia conference last year.

The statement in the oddball media that is quoted in the post is equally oddball, "As of this weekend, there's a new New World Order on Earth..." is fantasy and wild imaginings.

The G-77 is as revolutionary as oatmeal.

The post also rehashes the goldbug lunacy of Russia and China dumping all their USD "along with many other countries and collapse the US economy and the currency....That is the end of the USA," which is more of the same old Mad Max fantasizing that ignores the current catastrophe occurring in Russia and the fact the CCP Boyz in Beijing want good relations with the United States first and foremost, in contrast to Putin who is presently getting the karma he has created over Ukraine.

The crazies are running up and down the hills again with their revolutions and gold while continuing to howl at the moon.

Lol..... I love it when people like you live with their heads in the sand and only see what they want to see.

The effect is much better when they finally realise that the chickens really HAVE com home to roost.

It is fun to watch them squirm....... "but... but... but".... Just makes it all the sweeter.

None so blind as those who refuse to see.

The Russian ..... and the best disinformation/propaganda unit the world has ever seen.

It calls the truth. The US and other Western control almost 99% of world mass-media. We can win if we will show only THE TRUTH

You must be kidding... The sheer volume of pure lies and fabricated stories shown in Russian television about Ukraine is just amazing. There are countless examples where it has been proven that the Russian television has been supplementing some stories with war videos from different parts of the world attributing these to happenings in Ukraine, or the people that are being interviewed with the same actors playing the part of Ukrainian soldiers, then rebels and then again some innocent civilians in different stories etc. etc.

I don't suppose you could post a link to these claims of Russian TV using actors that strangely swap sides?... That would be interesting to see.

I can show you that the US have instigated the Ukraine crisis from the start, and intend to have a war with Russia.

What exactly is "dangerous"? Did I say we should attack Russia because they are weak? No, I simply pointed to facts about Russia's military.

You are dangerous because of your jaded attitude about Russia being completely ineffective, I would certainly challenge that myth, on top of declaring US superiority over everything non-US. You pay absolutely no regard to the fact that Russia could pull together a lethal coalition and it certainly would if it was to go toe to toe with the US.

It is these attitudes that lure people to their deaths,....... Never underestimate your enemy, they are fighting for their lives, their country and their families.

"You pay absolutely no regard to the fact that Russia could pull together a lethal coalition and it certainly would if it was to go toe to toe with the US."

What nations are you assuming will join this imaginary Russian coalition?

All those who hate the USA for its bullying around the world and its arrogance....... that is pretty much everyone.

It is a country with a false economy, a massive national debt, and is effectively broke.

The only thing holding it together is printing money out of thin air and relying on it as being the global reserve currency. Which is what China, Russia, India and about 133 other countries in the world have signed a pact to remove the USA and the USD from the equation.... That is why the US is being aggressive to Russia, and trying to bankrupt it, but it will not work... Russia has been massing gold as well as China, and when they have enough, they will dump all their USD along with many other countries and collapse the US economy and the currency.... That is the end of the USA.

This was kept away from the lot of you by the US government who banned it from being reported in the mainstream media...... as they do.

By Mark Wachtler

June 17, 2014. Bolivia. (ONN) The American and European media are doing everything they can to black this news out. But it’s not going to stay a secret for long. As of this weekend, there’s a new New World Order on Earth and its enemy is the United States, the EU, the UN Security Council and the world’s shadow government led by the IMF and WTO. This new alliance of poor countries wouldn’t be much of a threat, except it includes two-thirds of the world’s nations including China and India.

Read More Here. http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/2014/q2/133-g77-nations-vow-destroy-americas-new-world-order/

Hark back to 2003 and ask yourselves how long it took for the US military to destroy the 4th largest army in the world (at that time). The US entered Iraq on 20 March 2003 and entered Baghdad on 10 April 2003.

Actually, I believe it was the 4th largest standing army in the world before the first Gulf War in 1991. What was it...40 days of bombing and a 100-hour ground war? All that to defeat a massive army with pretty much the same weapons as Russia is pouring into Ukraine now?

The Russian military today is the same as the Iraqi one 24 years ago with a few differences - nuclear missiles, nuclear subs, a few hundred top notch special forces soldiers and the best disinformation/propaganda unit the world has ever seen.

People like you are a danger to the American people.

I will enjoy watching you eat those words when the US can not raise a coalition and Russia will have China, India, Most of the Middle East, N Korea and South America.

Then the US will back away........ they would be annihilated.

US dominance is at an end mate.

Oh are you mistaken. India is clearly an ally of the US and depends on the US. The US is the largest buyer of Chinese exports - follow the money. The entire EU is the second largest buyer of Chinese exports. China can't afford to attack its biggest customer.

"Most of the Middle East" is a joke. Where were they when the US with the coalitions were attacking Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya...??? Saudi Arabia hates Iran and don't forget Israel.

N. Korea? They don't have the ability to project force.

Russia is broke and can't afford to fight a war.

You are full of wishful thinking.

Russia is broke, its money is worthless, and it's out of friends if push comes to shove. Russia's air force is antiquated as is its navy. Putin must be a madman to be doing what he's doing. His country is broke, he's on his lips and he's trying to conquer Ukraine.

Man you are seriously deluded, and just about everything in this post is wrong and is testament to typical American arrogance.

Which just makes it sweeter when the rest of the world watches you fail.

The US is living on borrowed time and many have said 2015 will be the start of the fall of the country, both economically and militarily, but much more important...... socially. You will see for yourself exactly what those 300 million guns will be used for.

India is an American ally?..... hahaha, I have heard it all now... do you not even bother doing a google check before you commit yourself on here?.....lol

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=will+India+ally+with+US+or+Russia

Actually, I believe it was the 4th largest standing army in the world before the first Gulf War in 1991. What was it...40 days of bombing and a 100-hour ground war? All that to defeat a massive army with pretty much the same weapons as Russia is pouring into Ukraine now?

The Russian military today is the same as the Iraqi one 24 years ago with a few differences - nuclear missiles, nuclear subs, a few hundred top notch special forces soldiers and the best disinformation/propaganda unit the world has ever seen.

People like you are a danger to the American people.

I will enjoy watching you eat those words when the US can not raise a coalition and Russia will have China, India, Most of the Middle East, N Korea and South America.

Then the US will back away........ they would be annihilated.

US dominance is at an end mate.

What exactly is "dangerous"? Did I say we should attack Russia because they are weak? No, I simply pointed to facts about Russia's military.

You are dangerous because of your jaded attitude about Russia being completely ineffective, I would certainly challenge that myth, on top of declaring US superiority over everything non-US. You pay absolutely no regard to the fact that Russia could pull together a lethal coalition and it certainly would if it was to go toe to toe with the US.

It is these attitudes that lure people to their deaths,....... Never underestimate your enemy, they are fighting for their lives, their country and their families.

Hark back to 2003 and ask yourselves how long it took for the US military to destroy the 4th largest army in the world (at that time). The US entered Iraq on 20 March 2003 and entered Baghdad on 10 April 2003.

Actually, I believe it was the 4th largest standing army in the world before the first Gulf War in 1991. What was it...40 days of bombing and a 100-hour ground war? All that to defeat a massive army with pretty much the same weapons as Russia is pouring into Ukraine now?

The Russian military today is the same as the Iraqi one 24 years ago with a few differences - nuclear missiles, nuclear subs, a few hundred top notch special forces soldiers and the best disinformation/propaganda unit the world has ever seen.

I don't think anyone has offered to go to war against Russia. Obama is "considering" supplying some weapons. The US and EU have trade sanctions against Russia and Russia is in a world of hurt economically. Its money is worthless and its oil income is halved.

The thread is about Ukraine troops trying to hold off rebels. It's not about the US going to war.

You have to look beyond those actions... Openly supplying weapons will just send a message to the Russians that they no longer need to remain incognito about supplying the rebels. It will end up both sides getting huge masses of weapons and basically a war will ensue which will tear Ukraine apart. But will sanctions be put in the USA for doing exactly the same as what ended in sanctions for Russia??

Should the EU put sanction on the States?...... Anyway, regardless of that.... Get familiar with the word "escalation".... Do not think for a moment that Russia will allow the US fed Ukraine destroy the Russian people of the Ukraine, he would invade before he would allow it and bring the situation to a head.

For the record..... Iraq was not invaded by the US it was invaded by one of the worlds largest ever coalition forces that was just led by the US. But it is not unusual for US citizens to crow on about just being the Americans who did it all.

LOL. I am the one who is forever reminding that 21 nations were involved in the war in Iraq including Tony Blair, but most people want to blame it on the US.

I have never blamed the US, and I HAVE blamed Tony Blair, and I hope one day he goes to jail for lying to parliament and the people. He has the blood of 179 soldiers on his hands for an illegal war. I hope Bush goes down with him.... He has the blood of 4400 on his hands.