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it’s possible she may assign civilian forces to start a civil war. If that is the case, I will simply tell people to return home. It’s the duties of the military and police to suppress rebels
he believes she may "assign civilian forces" ?
a trip to the psychiatrist is called for poor fellow
Well considering that she has not been seen or heard from for the past few days and is allegedly holed up somewhere in the red shirt heartlands, possibly with Thaksin who will be illegally in the country.
They know their days are numbered, and this is because they know that the NACC has all the evidence they need to probably not only impeach YL and a hell of a lot of PTPers, but also instantly arrest them and refuse bail because of the precedent that Thaksin set back in 2008 with his absconding.
Trust me... they know exactly how much trouble they are in, and it is a lot.
This is playing out exactly how I predicted months ago... The courts will bring down the government, the red shirts will be willing to lay down their lives (some of them) and Thaksin will rule from the north with an incitement to split the country. His only hope of coming back to Thailand in a power position.
If people on here think that Suthep is not talking with the army, they are poorly informed about how this situation is going out of control.
Wednesday will be the first opportunity for the government and YL to be booted out, totally legally under the fabric of the constitution. Suthep and the army know that should this happen, the reds are going to assemble their forces to attack Bangkok.
Why do you think the protest sites have been closed down yet all the army checkpoints remain????? Because the site's removal were making way for the army to be able to rapidly deploy against the red attackers.
Why do you think Suthep is ordering protesters to go home?.... To remove them from being a target of the red's attack and to keep them from being mistakenly seen by the army as red attackers... meaning that the only mobs on the street will be red shirts, a much easier job for the army to control under martial law.
Suthep is not stupid, he know exactly what is happening now and what is going to happen.
Once the red army now being assembled 'as we speak' see their government gone, they will undoubtedly rise up against what they call elite backed courts and will want to react. Thaksin is priming the northerners with hints about a seperatist state, and he will expolit this situation to its fullest potential. He will have this army at his disposal, he will use his money and Cambodian and Burmese influence to flood the north with weapons with which to arm his rebel force..... This will be his final throw of the dice, and we all know he is more than capable of it.
<deleted>..... Why else do you think Yingluck and the PTP have been keeping very tight lipped about the campaign for secession at the moment when everyone expects them to speak out against it owing to the fact it will bring nothing but misery, death and destitution to the north..... answer: Because they are actually the ones pulling the strings and involved in it up to their eyeballs.
I don't expect everyone to agree, but I am sure all those with an ounce of savvy will agree 100%.
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Oh and by the way, this attempt to create huge civil unrest will NOT be run from Chiang Mai, it will be run from Dubai. Why else do you thing that Chiang Mai airport has 'all of a sudden' decided to stay open on a 24 hour basis?... no longer any need to wait for them to open before certain people decide it is time to use their services.
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The whole lure of becoming a politician in Thailand is the exact graft availability which comes with such a position.
Not much will change, as long as the basis of that lure is not eradicated first.
That lure will disintegrate before everyone's eyes once the first dozen of so politicians are seen to be hauled off to prison and FORCED to do the time in jail.... NOT using the money they took to pay for freedom.
You will see a huge decrese in the amount of people wanting to get involved in politics and this will open the doors for many people who are actually interested in politics for the good of the country.
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Really rather scary for for Suthep if the UN get involved, imagine the situation when Ban asks Suthep, "Well what is it that you actually want from all this?" I suspect the usual reply from Suthep, "Reform" would be met with " What reforms do you have in mind, Mr. Suthep?". To which the reply is silence.
Salient point.
What are the reforms Mr. Suthep has in mind? By this I mean a substantial framework, clear objectives, required resources, people, a working plan and timeline.
Anyone?
The reforms are already being drawn up and have been for a month now, and it is NOT an overnight job.
The main points Suthep will already know, just because he has not released those facts does not mean he is going to come up short.
If the UN actually does arrive, I think the main thing talked about is why the protesters want Yingluck and the PTP party out of power and this is going to spell a very uncomfortable moment for Surapong when it is explained about all the hundreds of billions missing and the influence from a convicted criminal and 'mass murderer' (as already noticed by the UN).. who is actually and undeniably running Thailand from a foreign shore..... another incredibly uncomfortable moment for Surapong.
Then of course the current cases before the courts regarding breaches on the constitution and corruption and negligence which can not be denied, will also serve as a very uncomfortable moment for Surapong.
If I were Surapong, I would call Ban on the phone and thank him but he has changed his mind.
If the UN gets here, these are all the things that will be getting talked about, not just aimed at Suthep's reforms, which he can easily 'hold his own' when asked.
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It amazes me that foreigners from Democratic countries can even contemplate supporting such a man as the Bully Boy Suthep, probably one of the most corrupt and controlling men in Thailand, i notice that even the leader of the Democrats, which is Suthep's party, has distanced himself from these Bullying and National disrupting tactics. Why would anybody with half a brain support this man, when even his own party leader clearly does not.
Regardless of what the other side has got up to, i am only now talking about this mysterious support for Suthep by foreigners from democratic countries, would they also support any man doing the same back home............Absolutely unfathomable !
oldsailor, it amazes me how some foreigners here have such a limited and a squinted view of Thai politics. Do you even live here or is it that you have visited Thailand a couple times? Just curious based on your post.
I don't think many Thai's disagree, even those involved in the protests. Suthep is generally regarded as a not to be trusted, hated, self serving, idiot. It is unfortunate that the anti Yingluck protests have been hijacked and controlled by him. You couldn't choose a worse figure head for a campaign against corruption and the Thai's know it and it is shocking how many farangs don't only support the drive against corruption but also blindly support this idiot.
it is shocking how many farangs don't only support the drive against corruption but also blindly support this idiot.
You could be talking about Thaksin if you didn't read the post before it.
Aren't the red farangs supporting corruption simply by being against the protests?
There is a difference between being accused of 'self interests' allegations 20 years ago and the current situation of stealing hundreds billions from the country in almost full public view with an attitude of full impunity.
I will tell you the main difference between Suthep and Thaksin will I?
There will be a statue of Suthep in Bangkok in the future and he will be remembered as the father of true democracy when his work is done.
You will NEVER see a statue of Thaksin ever!!!!!!!
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All the PDRC leaders who broke the law!
It is about time the police did their jobs and arrest these traitors!
Cheers
What about the red shirt leaders who broke the law in 2010? Some who are in government now? Shouldn't they also be in jail?
The current government better be careful as a precedent is being set and they can be charged for the deaths in the current protests. Fair is fair.
Time for the DSI to get out of politics.
Do you not see the difference between an alleged allegiance between a party and a terrorist group and ordering the army to gun down protesters?
Suthep is a hypocrite of the worst kind, guilty of everything he can accuse Thaksin of ever doing and more.
Alleged allegiance?
Have you been allegedly living on mars?
How can you say alleged when even the UDD call the red shirts 'their red shirts' constantly???
The Dem government allowed the army 'on the army's request' to use live rounds in the case that they were attacked with lethal force. They were of course being constantly shot at and having grenades lobbed at them and soldiers were dying.
The reds were warned that the army now had live rounds, yet they still continued to hurl things at the army and shoot at them as well as setting alight to many businesses in BKK.
Of course they ended up being shot <deleted>... what do you expect?.... It's a bloody army........ trained to kill.
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Suthep has many things to answer for. Trying to bring down an elected government, Inciting the population to revolt,thus causing unnecessary deaths. If it was not for him, these people would all be alive today. Using armed guards in a public place, getting those armed guards to snatch a woman off the streets of Bangkok and beating up an off duty policeman, stopping free passage in the streets of Bangkok, attempting to disrupt an election which had been approved by HRH, thus going directly against HRH wishes and approval. Threatening the current PM, not to mention his corrupt actions whilst the Agricultural Minister and Deputy PM., i.e. theft of government land on Samui and Phuket, his attempt to kill off Democracy and replace with a Fascist dictatorship under his direction. And so on. This is only the "tip of the iceberg"
He is nothing but a Fascist Bully Boy whom Thailand can do without.
Lock him up and throw away the key !
here we go again
what elected government
Yingluck disolved parliment of her own free will
the protest has been about stopping the same corrupt government to get back in
How we twist the fact to prove our bias
Absolutely not correct ! The protest is all about Suthep's hatred for Thaksin, and Sutheps desire for power, seeing it is the only way he will ever get to master Thailand, he will never do it through the ballot box and he knows it. As for anti corruption, he just has to be up there with the greatest !
Not correct?
Even if it is YOU who is correct, and in fact it has come about because of Suthep's hatred of Thaksin, then shouldn't that be reason enough?
Or do you think that a country being run and also run into the ground by a convicted criminal in another country is acceptable?
Come on... Is that acceptable???? I have never in all my years heard of a country being run from outside by a mass nurdering criminal with all the idealisms of Pol Pot. Let alone see it being endorsed by westerners.
Also, if the Dems ran in the next elections, even without reform, they would get double the votes of the PTP, and what would happen next? Their so called voters will push for secession under the command of Thaksin who has managed to funnel massive amount of funding for it from the rice scam and the army is already being assembled. See last night's pictures of Khon Kaen.
The protests were started because of the amnesty bill remember, that is what brought millions to the streets. That also ended up advocating the removal of Thaksin influence from Thai politics via reforms.... Nothing to do with personal hate or elections.
Get it right.
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All the PDRC leaders who broke the law!
It is about time the police did their jobs and arrest these traitors!
Cheers
And an arrest warrant for you for a personal attack on Thai people with no evidence to back up what you claim
Trust me.... there will be.
The mechanisms are already in place, I won't go into details, but a handful of members whom I will not mention know in detail.
Kikoman and a few of his associates are already being closely monitored by certain forces.
They had best hope and pray the PDRC never get their people into power here, because that will be their own day of reckoning if you know what I mean.
One day we will all be talking about it on here.
Australian man Nathan Hansford missing in Thailand
in Thailand News Headlines
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Has not opened any of his emails or accessed his social media accounts since December?
This is very worrying and not at all a good sign.
Please don't get me wrong, and I do not want to be associated with starting suspicious rumours, but TEP you mentioned he had recently worked on a project for the Public Debt Management Office and the Ministry of Finance? This wouldn't be connected to the rice pledging scheme would it?
Just saying... Because I bet there is (and has been) a hell of a lot of 'track covering' and erasing of certain things associated with that huge government scandal over the past few months.