Luxfare

Has anyone actually read the threads that the OP starts? They're all click bait for anti Thai sentiment.

I've just had a tit for tat with him in private messages and he openly admitted to being a troll.

I know exactly why she done it. And if I had to put food on the table for my family id use any means neccesary

So, you'd also sell your axse as well?

Waiting for an answer.

Any Farang woman who would do the same in a situation like Isaan girl?

Hardly the same is it? the social help and infrastructure in the Western world helps people in need a lot more than in Thailand so not many Western women would be forced into something such as prostitution. Also the educational level is higher in the Western world allowing for better prospects.

I'm guessing it wouldn't be hard to spot the farang castles perched above the rice paddies and shacks ? Now if it was me and I see my tax money going to the 'rich' (------ however we measure that . I would be truly upset myself ! a bit like an immigrant getting housing and healthcare who has never paid into the system before you do in your homeland ? You have to see it from both sides sometimes .

You clearly seem to be missing a vital point..

Thailand operates a system of weak income taxation and relies more on consumption taxes, import duties, etc to allocate budgets.

Hence the wine drinking BMW driving farang, despite paying no income tax (usually they have no income and are living on savings) actually contributes far more in taxation than a normal employed Thai.

And where did the OP claim he was a BMW driving wine drinker? And I guess all the near by Thais in your mind ride an ox and cart while knocking back moonshine?

You have to love the superiority complex of some 'farang'.

If you're an expat living here, you're paying VAT just like everyone else. As far as income tax goes, how many people pay income tax? There are a huge number of rural folk who don't even meet the income threshold to have to file and pay. So if you're here, but not working, you're paying taxes like most rural people do, i.e., via VAT. So if you have more money, you're probably buying more (BMWs and wine, all taxable I believe), and proportionally paying more taxes than the average Somchai.

I earn a good salary, pay a fair bit of tax...yet I'm a BTS and Singha man. To make out all farang live the lives of kings and that the Thais should respect said kings is so far wide of the mark it's not even funny.

This thread was a typical "let's all Thai bashers" thread it's as simple as that.

If the same had happened to me I'd have

1/ if the house was in my wife's name ask her to contact the people responsible and ask why they didn't do our soi and would they like me to take it further up the chain of command

2/ if I'm renting contact the owner and ask what's going on and is he/she happy that their soi is now less developed than the others

But then again some people are doers and some are just cynical ranters expecting people to go "there there, let's slate someone while doing nothing about it".

I'm guessing it wouldn't be hard to spot the farang castles perched above the rice paddies and shacks ? Now if it was me and I see my tax money going to the 'rich' (------ however we measure that . I would be truly upset myself ! a bit like an immigrant getting housing and healthcare who has never paid into the system before you do in your homeland ? You have to see it from both sides sometimes .

You clearly seem to be missing a vital point..

Thailand operates a system of weak income taxation and relies more on consumption taxes, import duties, etc to allocate budgets.

Hence the wine drinking BMW driving farang, despite paying no income tax (usually they have no income and are living on savings) actually contributes far more in taxation than a normal employed Thai.

And where did the OP claim he was a BMW driving wine drinker? And I guess all the near by Thais in your mind ride an ox and cart while knocking back moonshine?

You have to love the superiority complex of some 'farang'.

I'm sorry, but I don't believe this story. Makes no sense. So the city planners are sitting around trying to figure out where the farang houses are so that the street won't be repaired at exactly those locations? And the other owners who are Thai? How about others who drive on those streets? Surely would include everyone. You guys shouldn't be so gullible.

Yeah it had click bait written all over it. If the farang don't own the houses in their wives names then the local government have only affected the Thai owners,and if the land is owned by the wives then all they have to do is visit the local offices and play holy hell.Seems someone just wanted to herd all the Thai bashers in for a sing a long

6 people on two pages, including a moderator, all with the same issue.

Yeah, it's all just BS in order to get the yellow-tinted glasses brigade upset because, of course, Thai society would never, ever, possibly act in such a way.

And all farang are truthful, never lie or generalize. Amazing how many farang within 2 pages have had exactly the same happen to them.......almost epidemic.

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I'm sorry, but I don't believe this story. Makes no sense. So the city planners are sitting around trying to figure out where the farang houses are so that the street won't be repaired at exactly those locations? And the other owners who are Thai? How about others who drive on those streets? Surely would include everyone. You guys shouldn't be so gullible.

Yeah it had click bait written all over it. If the farang don't own the houses in their wives names then the local government have only affected the Thai owners,and if the land is owned by the wives then all they have to do is visit the local offices and play holy hell.Seems someone just wanted to herd all the Thai bashers in for a sing a long

Well bully for you. Maybe you don't need a photo at all because you have special sight.

Anyway, I don't think the speed limit there is 30-40kph...

You've a real attitude problem don't you...or is that just behind the safety of your keyboard?

And I never once said it was the speed limit, then again you can be going under the speed limit and still be guilty of dangerous/wreckless driving.

There is a level of cynicism and skepticism here that i'm quite surprised at. I am quite skeptical myself and don't know what to think, hence me posting here, but I don't think the situation is as black and white as some people are making it out to be. It's like just because something similar has happened with other people before and it went to shit, then it will be guaranteed go to shit for me. This ignores all the stories that never went to shit because people didn't bother signing up to forums to complain about them.

Yes, she has lied to me about things before. Yes I am hesitant to place my trust in her. As I mentioned, I have never paid her any money, and this is why she has to go to Korea. By the way, she booked the whole Korea thing whilst I was outside the country and she didn't know I'd be back so soon so it's not like she abandoned me.

A further bit of back story on this girl in case it might be relevant. She worked in a factory in Bangkok for 9 years before doing massage. She was with a Thai partner for 8 of those years but eventually the relationship fell apart. They had been paying off a house together but never finished the payments. Her father abandoned her as a child and she is not in contact with him. Her mother never took care of her and she is rarely in touch with her. Her granny was the one who took care of her as a child and she tries to provide for her as much as possible.

I personally was not prepared to give my money to her because i'm still trying to figure out exactly what to do with my own life in terms of career, and because I think paying monthly to be with a woman while i'm not in her country and living together is completely retarded and is no basis for a relationship. I also don't have much money to give away. This is obviously why she was going with that English guy. BUT, she stopped all contact with him. Why did she do this? He was providing money she could send to her granny every month, she could have easily kept up the illusion that she was in Malaysia working while going off with him. But she admitted everything to me and stopped contact with this man. This man who was a source of income for her family. If all thai women give a shit about is money, if all she sees when looking at me is a potential future cash windfall, why in gods name would she break it off with him?

Firstly NOT all Thai women are after money. I met my now wife 7.5 years ago while she was studying in England, turns out she was a hiso ( didn't have a clue about that term before coming to live here). So far her parents have bought her a condo for us to live, paid for half the wedding, refused sin sod and gave me an interest free loan to pay off my debts in the UK....however, they don't need money from me. If the family were poor and needed income then 99% of the time the daughter will be expected to provide. Now you ask why she would dump the Brit for you? One explanation could be that you're more fun and better looking and soon you'll be expected to provide the shortfall and the bonus to her is that she got a younger version....let's face it , she'd rather have 6 pack paying than paunch paying.

My advice ( and like I said I've never dated an issan girl) would be to take little steps and NEVER go all in....not even when you're certain of her. Keep something for yourself always and that way if things go South you have a safety blanket.

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Just have fun and don't take it too seriously. You too young to get serious, there are too many fish in the sea especially in Thiland

Yeah that's my problem, i'm getting very serious with it. I'm thinking about her a lot. finding it difficult to concentrate on my own life. Missing her a lot. I'm actually staying in her apartment right now as she let me stay there while she went to Korea. I was thinking of going to australia on a working holiday which might be better for me to take my mind off her a little bit.

Vietnam? Korea? Exactly how much does she make as a masseuse?

She may well like you but from her likely impoverished background unless you support her fully she'll have to sell herself. Up to you though, you know the person better than us.

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I love listening to you, saint and super driver, that never disobey the rules in Thailand.

Try to read the article properly, the guy was cut off by the motorbike when the policeman made a u-turn at the spot suddenly, cutting into his way and making it impossible for him to stop his car in time.

Ask yourself, what would you have done in a situation like this?

So stop, trying to be clever and think before you post nonsense.

Did you read the article? The bike ended up 200meters away......I doubt a bike could be thrown that far if he was going less than 70-80kmph , not to mention the front of the Merc has all but disintegrated. IF the Merc was speeding then you cannot really say the cop cut him off as he may have had enough time to u turn if the Merc was traveling at the correct speed.

I do not believe that a car impacting a bike cold cause it to be thrown 200 meters. Think about the energy required to pitch even 100 Kgs 200 meters, just not possible. The driver may have been speeding, but 200 meters.......impossible at less that 300 Kms/hr in my view.

20 meters I can believe, even 40 meters is plausible, but not 200.

It does seem excessive, did he smash the bike then take 100m+ to come to a halt perhaps? Thus being away from the bike. Not a lot you can tell from the photo but one thing is for certain he was traveling at some serious speed to cause that damage to his car.

Disagree. 'Picture taken at night; the flash reflecting promiscuously off every bit of bent body & trim metal. It's a Mercedes, not a tank. A daytime photo taken from an angle more to the side would be far more informative and possibly much less misleading. Anyway, an assessment of "serious speed" is purely subjective & inflammatory: not helpful. And the 200m - totally absurd; so incredible it really throws much said in the rest of the original article into serious doubt, not to mention those here claiming to be former police & accident investigators giving us the benefit of their unquestionable "expertise" - LOL.

All that said, actual fault and the truth of the matter notwithstanding, the British driver is no doubt in a world of serious legal hurt.

I don't need a daytime photo to know that car is a complete write off and has hit something very hard at very fast speeds.....May have been the central reservation after the bike but that damage wouldn't happen at 30-40 kmph unless you smashed into an immovable solid wall....so if he did just hit the bike then he's clearly been hoofing it.

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I hope tha they lock this guy up and just throw the keys away.

I love listening to you, saint and super driver, that never disobey the rules in Thailand.

Try to read the article properly, the guy was cut off by the motorbike when the policeman made a u-turn at the spot suddenly, cutting into his way and making it impossible for him to stop his car in time.

Ask yourself, what would you have done in a situation like this?

So stop, trying to be clever and think before you post nonsense.

Did you read the article? The bike ended up 200meters away......I doubt a bike could be thrown that far if he was going less than 70-80kmph , not to mention the front of the Merc has all but disintegrated. IF the Merc was speeding then you cannot really say the cop cut him off as he may have had enough time to u turn if the Merc was traveling at the correct speed.

I do not believe that a car impacting a bike cold cause it to be thrown 200 meters. Think about the energy required to pitch even 100 Kgs 200 meters, just not possible. The driver may have been speeding, but 200 meters.......impossible at less that 300 Kms/hr in my view.

20 meters I can believe, even 40 meters is plausible, but not 200.

It does seem excessive, did he smash the bike then take 100m+ to come to a halt perhaps? Thus being away from the bike. Not a lot you can tell from the photo but one thing is for certain he was traveling at some serious speed to cause that damage to his car.

That's a lot of damage from hitting a motorcyle.

In fact, I'd go to say impossible!

A China/Thai made Mercedes cannot be compared with a real German made Mercedes, they using cheap steel and parts, same look and brand but actually a totally different car. The same for BMW a Thai-made BMW is just not the real thing more an in-brand copy and Volkswagen the same story.

Apart from the fact that neither Mercedes nor BMW make their cars in Thailand and even if they did there's a certain thing called OEM which both companies would insist upon to maintain their reputations.

So erm....you're wrong.

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I hope tha they lock this guy up and just throw the keys away.

I love listening to you, saint and super driver, that never disobey the rules in Thailand.

Try to read the article properly, the guy was cut off by the motorbike when the policeman made a u-turn at the spot suddenly, cutting into his way and making it impossible for him to stop his car in time.

Ask yourself, what would you have done in a situation like this?

So stop, trying to be clever and think before you post nonsense.

Did you read the article? The bike ended up 200meters away......I doubt a bike could be thrown that far if he was going less than 70-80kmph , not to mention the front of the Merc has all but disintegrated. IF the Merc was speeding then you cannot really say the cop cut him off as he may have had enough time to u turn if the Merc was traveling at the correct speed.

If you look at the car properly you will see that the front has not disintegrated. The bonnet has crumpled as it is designed to do, the front plastic bumper has broken and dislodged as it is designed to do and the windscreen has been damaged where the bike/rider has hit it as usually happens in this kind of accident.

The bike has a considerable mass and if launched into the air in a collision of this type it will continue to slide along the road until it loses all it's inertia. It does not hit the road and stop dead.

Thanks for your patronizing reply....I used to be in the Police and studied plenty of road accidents and that car has been travelling at extreme speeds don't tell me otherwise.

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I hope tha they lock this guy up and just throw the keys away.

I love listening to you, saint and super driver, that never disobey the rules in Thailand.

Try to read the article properly, the guy was cut off by the motorbike when the policeman made a u-turn at the spot suddenly, cutting into his way and making it impossible for him to stop his car in time.

Ask yourself, what would you have done in a situation like this?

So stop, trying to be clever and think before you post nonsense.

Did you read the article? The bike ended up 200meters away......I doubt a bike could be thrown that far if he was going less than 70-80kmph , not to mention the front of the Merc has all but disintegrated. IF the Merc was speeding then you cannot really say the cop cut him off as he may have had enough time to u turn if the Merc was traveling at the correct speed.

So even if he did cop a feel of this gal does it warrant three thai men bashing him up?

If it did happen it just gave the thai guys an excuse or good opportunity to bash someone up who was pretty pissed and not really likely to cause these three guys any problems.

Does someone sexually assaulting your sister warrant you kicking off??

Erm....yes, very much so.

You come across as a typical, "I'm farang and can do as I please". You cop a feel of my wife and what those 3 did will pale in comparison.

It seems you have very little idea of what goes on in Pattaya?

We are not talking the pillars of society here.

So save your moral judgements and righteous indignation for people who deserve it.

And so everyone should just accept it and allow it to continue?

Good luck with your moral crusade in Pattaya you will need it.

So why live in Pattaya?

If you choose to live somewhere that you believe is a corrupted war zone full of scumbags and scammers then erm....you've only got yourself to blame. Why not try Syria, I hear it's lovely this time of year.

This young 'lady' and the Finnish boyfriend own a Pattaya bar.

She is collecting bar fines and sending her staff home with drunks but suffers indignation when her bottom gets a pinch?

Pimping is legal and pinching not?

The defenders of these thai guys are really laughable and clearly show they have no clue what is going in Pattaya.

Prattling on about a drunk who touched a woman and calling it sexual assault....what a joke even more laughable when you consider she sells other women for sexual services.

I guess then all those katoeys that hang around Pattaya who try to hug you are also guilty of sexual assault then?

Good luck with getting the police to lock them all up!

Someone touching you in a sexual manner when NOT INVITED to is sexual assault.

Clearly you think you know everything about everything...going on as though everyone on here is clueless while you know it all. Ex SAS by any chance?

My wife is Thai, not a bar girl but still I doubt that would matter to this guy, if he'd pinched her backside then he'd have suffered a lot worse than what these Thai guys did to him.

Oh, and if Pattaya is so bad....erm , why do you live there? Martyr or trouble maker yourself?

I understand where your coming from, but just one question, what if the other bloke was Mike Tyson, what would you then do.

The point I'm trying to make is "might is not always wright"

I doubt Mike Tyson would be walking around Pattaya groping women.....he keeps that sort of behavior for hotel rooms

Allegedly.... my lawyer advises I add.

Luxfare, that fits the description of a bloke I just saw running down Buakhow with a water pistol and a pair of safety goggles shouting 'I'll <deleted> kill you ALLLLLLL !'

Nah, not me.......I refuse to run in this heat.....after 10 singha beers the rest would be a possibility though.

This young 'lady' and the Finnish boyfriend own a Pattaya bar.

She is collecting bar fines and sending her staff home with drunks but suffers indignation when her bottom gets a pinch?

Pimping is legal and pinching not?

The defenders of these thai guys are really laughable and clearly show they have no clue what is going in Pattaya.

Prattling on about a drunk who touched a woman and calling it sexual assault....what a joke even more laughable when you consider she sells other women for sexual services.

I guess then all those katoeys that hang around Pattaya who try to hug you are also guilty of sexual assault then?

Good luck with getting the police to lock them all up!

Someone touching you in a sexual manner when NOT INVITED to is sexual assault.

Clearly you think you know everything about everything...going on as though everyone on here is clueless while you know it all. Ex SAS by any chance?

My wife is Thai, not a bar girl but still I doubt that would matter to this guy, if he'd pinched her backside then he'd have suffered a lot worse than what these Thai guys did to him.

Oh, and if Pattaya is so bad....erm , why do you live there? Martyr or trouble maker yourself?

Have a look in the mirror mate.

Just did, failing to see your point.....all I could see is a good looking open minded individual with sunburn.

Probably generates twice as much revenue as well...

These malls generate nothing. They are places where rich people buy stuff they don't need in shops owned by other rich people. They are a waste of space, a waste of money and a waste of energy.

What a load of BS, they employ a lot of people, or do you think they are rich too.

Compared to their energy consumption and construction costs, these malls employ very few people.

And if they were turned into a house or condo they'd employ even less.

Again, why do so many Thai Visa members feel the need to make personal attacks against a poster who has only published his own opinion? It seems like these flamers feel personally threatened in some way. Why else would they repeatedly strike out at others with differing opinions and go for their throats? You see it again and again in the same people.

Boo Hoo, tell it to the judge

Airing an opinion is perfectly OK but one in which lazy, negative generalisations are made about an entire nation deserves to be slapped down hard.

zakk9 made what I felt were generalisations about wealthy Thais that had no basis in actual fact beyond his own churlish prejudices.

I produced evidence that clearly proved my point. He just continued to trot out his rhetoric.

He can't possibly justify an assertion in which he characterizes all wealthy Thais as tax-evading, greedy, self-obsessed prigs who will do anything to avoid contributing to the wellbeing of the country.

Whether that stupid assumption stems from socialist political leanings is neither here nor there - the fact is he simply doesn't have any REAL evidence to support it

From what my experience tells me is that those who insinuate all Hiso Thais are tax dodgers and corrupt individuals have never actually met a hiso Thai. My wife is hiso, her family paid for our condo, her car, half our wedding, and even gave me an interest free loan to settle my credit cards back in the UK.....oh, and they pay their taxes.

Some farang just cannot accept that Thais earn more than them and drive around in cars and have possessions that the farang can only dream of......I think back home we call in a severe case of the green eyed monster.

This young 'lady' and the Finnish boyfriend own a Pattaya bar.

She is collecting bar fines and sending her staff home with drunks but suffers indignation when her bottom gets a pinch?

Pimping is legal and pinching not?

The defenders of these thai guys are really laughable and clearly show they have no clue what is going in Pattaya.

Prattling on about a drunk who touched a woman and calling it sexual assault....what a joke even more laughable when you consider she sells other women for sexual services.

I guess then all those katoeys that hang around Pattaya who try to hug you are also guilty of sexual assault then?

Good luck with getting the police to lock them all up!

Someone touching you in a sexual manner when NOT INVITED to is sexual assault.

Clearly you think you know everything about everything...going on as though everyone on here is clueless while you know it all. Ex SAS by any chance?

My wife is Thai, not a bar girl but still I doubt that would matter to this guy, if he'd pinched her backside then he'd have suffered a lot worse than what these Thai guys did to him.

Oh, and if Pattaya is so bad....erm , why do you live there? Martyr or trouble maker yourself?

The article said she fled for fear of a mob or arrest. I was told she fled the mob to report to police.

It was also mentioned in the paper a second mob tried to get at her. They would have torn her to shreds if the police hadn't been there we all agree.

The second mob was completely justified after the chaos she caused which could well have led to deaths.

If she only 'feared' a mob or arrest after the first collision then that isn't enough to justify driving off and doing what she did or we could all use that excuse.

She was in the wrong and shouldn't be driving if she's got mental issues and unsure of what side of the road to ride on.

As JOEBROWN says, unless the crime is directed at you stay well clear....the person in the police you report it to may be getting a kick back.

One of my friends sent his international school kid to siam Sam tri.....think it's on Suk 89/1....apparently they do summer school directed for Kids who attend international schools and don't learn enough about Thai.

Thanks for that. Just googled it and found a couple of links to look into more. In Thai, but google translate gives the basics

http://www.trueplookpanya.com/true/activity_detail.php?cms_id=15080

SIAM SAAM TRI SUMMER COURSE International School Students for

a special camp for International Students. Capped child Thailand Buddhist Heart Open views to the 231-year period of the course during the first 17 ​​Jun - 12 Jul 2556 Part 2 15 Jul - 14 Aug 2556 Contact - Enroll Tel. 02-311. -0134, 02-331-6258-60 is 87 cm. Sukhumvit 89/1, Phakanong Bangkok 10260 E-mail:[email protected] Website: Www.siamsaamtri.ac.th facebook: Bachelor's third quarter.

http://www.siamsaamtri.ac.th/home.php

The Arrow

No problem, my friend said it was a good set up, classes not too big and gave his son a better understanding of the Thai language and culture....which pleased his Thai missus :-)