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sandyf, on 11 Nov 2014 - 13:32, said:

ubonjoe, on 11 Nov 2014 - 09:28, said:

JDGRUEN, on 11 Nov 2014 - 09:22, said:

Also Americans are not limited in applying for the 'O-A' Retirement - Long Stay Visa by nature of having to be age 65 and on a Government Pension.

Americans are under no such restrictions except 50 or over, meet financial requirement with money in American bank Equivalent to the 800,000 Baht, criminal background cert, and health cert.

It is unfortunate that for reasons not fully understood that people from the U.K. are discriminated in this way as compared to people from America and other countries.

The 65 year old rule is not for OA visas it is only to get a multiple entry non-o visa at one of the consulates.

From: http://thaiembassyuk.org.uk/?q=node/51

"ELIGIBILITY

• Applicant must be aged 50 years and over (on the day of submitting application)"

It is not a 65 year rule. You can be 65 without a state pension but you cannot have a state pension without being 65. The state pension is the controlling factor with this visa.

Not sure how they would deal with females on this one

For the purpose of intended retirement in LOS, only the 'O' Visa requires proof of a state pension. (according to the website)

The O-A financial requirements can be met by a number of different methods.

My own personal experience was that they also issue the 'O' with other financial proof other than a 'state pension' (not on the website)

'O-A' applications must be sent to the Embassy in London.

Consulates can issue the 'O'

Looks like the UK sites have also been updated.

I wanted an O-A but was verbally told by the London Embassy I didn't qualify as I wasn't in receipt of a 'state pension' although I had proof of savings and regular income from 'private pensions' that met the financial requirements.

I was directed to Liverpool who issued a single Entry Non Imm O, which they said was because I was over 50 but not 65 and receiving a 'state pension'

Looks like now the Non Imm O is only issued to those married, Thai family or 'state pension' earners.

Category "O" To visit Thai spouse, children, parents, voluntary job, Retirement (with State Pension

http://thaiembassyuk.org.uk/?q=node/49

The Non Imm O-A for those between 50 and 65 with other funding methods.

Apologises where necessary, but sorry JD, I stick with my statement there is no such Visa as a 'Retirement Visa'. There are Non Imm O and Non Imm O-A that can be for the purpose of 'Retirement' but also many other purposes as well.

Naturalisation will indeed solve further problems, I totally agree.

However as the wife of an EU citizen holding a 'Residency Card of an EU citizen' under article10 of Directive 2004/38/EC she doesn't need a Visa to enter Ireland.

Maybe I missed something?

The purpose of having a house book is that any government office can easily identify you and your address.

No need to keep supplying all those other documents as proof of ID and/or address.

When applying for the house book, passport details, proof of address are all recorded on the government database. Your book will contain a number that is unique to you. Any government office only needs to run that number through the database to get all your details.

So much easier than having to show Rental Contracts, Landlords ID, Certificates of Residence, Passports, etc

The snag is getting one..........not so easy in some Provinces.

paz, on 10 Nov 2014 - 18:01, said:

Faz, on 10 Nov 2014 - 15:31, said:

Have to agree with the original poster.

You can get a Non Imm O-A based on a number of reasons, that's why it isn't called a Retirement Visa - No such thing!

The only reason if for being over 50. It is called "long stay", or in practice, retirement.

Sorry Paz, for the Non Imm O-A Visa you must be retired in receipt of a state pension as proof to get this Visa based on your intention to retire in Thailand.

It is the Non Imm O that is issued to those over 50 (but not meeting the requirements of an O-A Visa) based on the intention to retire in Thailand.

I'm over 50, but not in receipt of a state pension. I can't get the O-A type Visa. No Thai wife, no Thai family either.

So both the Non Imm O and the Non Imm O-A Visa can be sought for the purpose of retirement in Thailand dependant on individual circumstances, but the word 'Retirement' is only shown on an 'extension' not a Visa.

thaifamilyguy, on 10 Nov 2014 - 13:08, said:

Thanks for the advice, again point here is my visa ends I not want to renew, whatever that need to mean for your, (for one thing, would have required tying up a 500,000 Baht deposit for 3 months to get an extra week at most)

So this is just on the issue of what is the updated wisdom of the old "a couple of days overstay" is just a cost issue?

Your not renewing anything, just extending what you already have. 1,900 baht.

JDGRUEN, on 10 Nov 2014 - 11:28, said:

2. To the person who posted that there is no such thing as a Retirement Visa ... Correction - yes there is - Non Imm Category 'O-A' which is obtained in one's home country at a Thai Embassy or Consulate.

Requirements for an 'O-A' are nearly identical in nature as the Extension of Stay based on Retirement and it functions in a very similar manner also, with a few interesting variations...

Have to agree with the original poster.

You can get a Non Imm O-A based on a number of reasons, that's why it isn't called a Retirement Visa - No such thing!

Waking up next to the neighbours wife..............best sobering tonic in the world.

Khunangkaro, on 10 Nov 2014 - 10:37, said:

Faz, on 10 Nov 2014 - 10:01, said:

shaurene, on 10 Nov 2014 - 09:44, said:

shaurene, on 10 Nov 2014 - 09:44, said:

I am confused as to what you need.

Bank: 12yrs ago I was in Pattaya on holiday and went to the local SCB Bank and just opened bank account only showed my passport. Now living in Khon Kaen and 1 yr ago opened new account in the SCB Khon Kaen branch, passport only. 4 months ago opened new account with another bank, passport only.

Drivers License: 5 months ago went to the Khon Kaen office with my yellow house book, international drivers license, my New Zealand license and received my Thai 1 yr license within 2 hrs from the start.

I was never asked for any of the documents you and others have spoken about, so sorry I am confused.

Your Yellow house book (Tabian Ban) is proof of residence issued by your local Amphur office.

In most cases, expats do not have this book and therefore need to get a 'Certificate of Residence' to appease officials.

Easy to get a yellow "Golden" housebook from your local Ampher. Cost nothing or ฿20-฿30.

Copies with your signature accepted everywhere for all purpose for many years.

Again that depends on the Amphur in question.

There isn't a detailed list of documents (that I've come across) to get a Yellow Tabian Ban, that is at the discretion of the office concerned.

If you have such a list please share it.

shaurene, on 10 Nov 2014 - 09:44, said:

I am confused as to what you need.

Bank: 12yrs ago I was in Pattaya on holiday and went to the local SCB Bank and just opened bank account only showed my passport. Now living in Khon Kaen and 1 yr ago opened new account in the SCB Khon Kaen branch, passport only. 4 months ago opened new account with another bank, passport only.

Drivers License: 5 months ago went to the Khon Kaen office with my yellow house book, international drivers license, my New Zealand license and received my Thai 1 yr license within 2 hrs from the start.

I was never asked for any of the documents you and others have spoken about, so sorry I am confused.

Your Yellow house book (Tabian Ban) is proof of residence issued by your local Amphur office.

In most cases, expats do not have this book and therefore need to get a 'Certificate of Residence' to appease officials.

Drugs in his apartment, planted or not and he is still walking the streets.

That doesn't make any sense.

Eventually he will make a rod for his own back.

I got my 'Certificate of Residence' from the local Police Station....free.

Passport, Rental Agreement as proof of address, landlords Tabian Ban and ID card.

I used that C of R to open a bank account, attain my drivers licence and purchase a motorcycle without any problems.

Never went near Immigration or my Embassy.

possum1931, on 09 Nov 2014 - 17:23, said:possum1931, on 09 Nov 2014 - 17:23, said:

wprime, on 09 Nov 2014 - 17:02, said:wprime, on 09 Nov 2014 - 17:02, said:

Not bad looking farangs with unattractive girls. Seems to be no shortage of them.

Back in Scotland. I always said you will find plenty of attractive girls with unattractive men, but you will hardly ever find a handsome guy with an unattractive girl.

That's because the handsome men go to 'Specsavers' in Scotland.

Sophon, on 09 Nov 2014 - 19:48, said:Sophon, on 09 Nov 2014 - 19:48, said:

Faz, on 09 Nov 2014 - 18:46, said:Faz, on 09 Nov 2014 - 18:46, said:

jpinx, on 09 Nov 2014 - 18:25, said:jpinx, on 09 Nov 2014 - 18:25, said:

jpinx, on 09 Nov 2014 - 18:25, said:

Faz, on 09 Nov 2014 - 18:06, said:Faz, on 09 Nov 2014 - 18:06, said:

Faz, on 09 Nov 2014 - 18:06, said:

He doesn't live in Thailand Sophon.

He visits every 3 months, for a 3 month period as per his 90 day Non Imm O Visa.

He is a frequent Tourist, not a resident.

Not wishing to split hairs, but 2 entries per year is not a "frequent tourist".

Maybe the Elite card would suit him better?

2 visits per year for 16 years, I classify as a 'frequent tourist'.

An elite card is for those who want to stay, or come and go unlimited and don't fit into other categories of suitable Visas for their purpose, or are under 50 and can't meet the requirements for an extension. Cost 500,000 baht ?

At the end of the day it's each to their own and he finds it more convenient to do 2 trips to Hull.

Cost £100 (5,000 baht)

Someone visiting twice for a couple of weeks per year is a tourist, someone spending six months of the year in Thailand is not. No guarantee spending that much time in Thailand will be allowed on visas in the future.

Sophon

Then pray tell, why do they offer a 60 day Tourist Visa, which can be extended for a further 30 days at Immigration.

The only recent change is the clampdown on back to back Visa exempts.

My friend is in his early 70's and as a person in receipt of his state pension, is entitled to apply for the Non Imm O if he wishes.

He is in no way abusing the system.

He's worked all his life, paid his taxes, saved and is now enjoying the fruits of his labour He is the kind of tourist Thailand wants more of.

jpinx, on 09 Nov 2014 - 18:25, said:

Faz, on 09 Nov 2014 - 18:06, said:

He doesn't live in Thailand Sophon.

He visits every 3 months, for a 3 month period as per his 90 day Non Imm O Visa.

He is a frequent Tourist, not a resident.

Not wishing to split hairs, but 2 entries per year is not a "frequent tourist".

Maybe the Elite card would suit him better?

2 visits per year for 16 years, I classify as a 'frequent tourist'.

An elite card is for those who want to stay, or come and go unlimited and don't fit into other categories of suitable Visas for their purpose, or are under 50 and can't meet the requirements for an extension. Cost 500,000 baht ?

At the end of the day it's each to their own and he finds it more convenient to do 2 trips to Hull.

Cost £100 (5,000 baht)

shirtless, on 09 Nov 2014 - 15:44, said:

Its high season , the place is packed so i just bought a new wheel barrow for my banking,

Wouldn't a safe be better..........

He doesn't live in Thailand Sophon.

He visits every 3 months, for a 3 month period as per his 90 day Non Imm O Visa.

He is a frequent Tourist, not a resident.

Point scoring is childish and achieves nothing.

The OP achieved his goal from the advice and opinions of everyone.

It was never totally identified that Mrs DC needed a Visa to satisfy Irish Immigration, but to satisfy the airline for her return flight.

It was a very informative thread, leave it at that!

The heat.............it was over 40C.

Those damn trucks with wailing loudspeakers..............so loud, I thought World War 3 had started.

Manual washing machines................thought they became extinct with the dinosaurs.

Your probably aware that your working illegally, so I wouldn't mention 'employer' to the authorities.

To answer your questions;

1. As far as I'm aware you can use either your maiden name or married name. You have the evidence of your birth certificate as proof of name in Passport and your marriage certificate as proof of changing name due to marriage. I would get your marriage certificate translated into English, but I see no need to change your passport.

2. Your correct that a woman doesn't need any proof of finances for a marriage 'extension'....not a Visa.

You cannot get a 'marriage extension' though from a Tourist Visa, you will first of all need to change your Tourist Visa to a Non Imm O Visa, which can then be changed to the marriage extension. You can get a work permit once you have that extension and legally work.

You can get everything completed in Bangkok. Agents can get you a Non Imm O and an extension based on marriage in one swoop, but the costs are high, almost 900,000 baht. It depends on your finances and need of urgency.

The other option is just to get your Tourist Visa changed to a Non Imm O Visa in Bangkok. You can then go to your own local Immigration Office to get an 'extension of stay' based on marriage. Takes more time but a lot cheaper doing it yourself.

thesyndicate, on 07 Nov 2014 - 10:04, said:

Wrong, she took the Child away from the home while I was sleeping, left it with relatives i assume and then left for abroad. So we have both custody and parental right the questions is can she use them for friends? Yes I would have known if the child has an guardian the court need to tell the father.

Left it with relatives I assume.

@AOA. The OP doesn't even know where the child is, it could still be with the mother.

That's why I asked the OP for more facts.

How does the OP know she went abroad? Somebody told him?

The OP isn't giving a full account of the situation here and your advocating 'snatch and grab'................from who?

Sigurris, so sorry to hear about your situation.

You have to consider the wishes of those nearest to you as well.

There may come a time when travel is impossible and to late to change decisions you make now.

I would spend as long as possible in Thailand, then return to the UK to be with your family.

As already said the care would be better in my opinion.

Maybe when you can face the reality of the news you can make better judgements.

Remember the loved ones you leave behind will bare the pain and heartbreak for many years to come.

You have to consider their wishes as well as your own.

I hope you can make the right choices for your own peace of mind.

Bum deal and some tough calls to make.............so sorry for your plight.

camsouth, on 07 Nov 2014 - 11:33, said:

ubonjoe, on 07 Nov 2014 - 09:44, said:

Most immigration offices will want proof of residence when you do the extension. Normal if you are renting is the rental agreement, copy of owners house book and ID card.

well i have my lease contract with owner of condo will that do?will i need a yellow book? what is that ? i do have a copy of owners id card

The yellow house book (for foreigners) is known as a 'Tabian Ban'

They are blue or black for Thais.

A word of caution. If you do decide to send passports to have the ILR transferred, ensure you send a pre paid 'Special Delivery' return address envelope, the UKBA used standard 'Recorded Delivery' otherwise.

A friend of mine submitted her and her sons applications for ILR.

She received an envelope back from the UKBA with documents, but without the passports.

The envelope wasn't damaged, but the UKBA wouldn't except any responsibility.

It eventually cost her over a £1000 in costs to get new passports and NTL stamps.

(NTL = No time Limit. A ILR permit is only issued once as it has a unique number)

The Post Office would only compensate £39 for Recorded Delivery.

Eventually, after Police reports, complaining to her MP and the Parliamentary Ombudsman taking up the case she received £289 compensation from the UKBA.

It took 8 months to resolve and in between they couldn't travel.

All for the cost of a prepaid 'Special Delivery' envelope.