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Can he just make a new application for FLR, even though he has appealed?

Is there a time frame involved?

I told him to send all his bank statements, but he said the UKBA helpline told him he only had to send a few from across the period.

That's hearsay, he may be making an excuse for his own incompetence.

At 73, he sometimes forgets who, what, where and when!

If married it's still 400k for an extension of stay. You can get a 1 year non 'O' multi entry visa without any financial proof.

You did fit in to a non 'O' visa category. I don't know how far back non 'O' visas and extensions have been available to parents, but I'm sure it's a lot longer than 6 years. A knowledge of the visa system of the foreign country you're living in is essential.

The Thai consulates in the UK would not issue a Non-Imm O based on having a Thai child, I checked with them every time I needed a visa. It was for having a Thai wife only. Based on my situation they would only grant me a multiple entry tourist visas which is what I always got whenever we came back to the UK for a holiday. When that expired I would enter again on exemptions.

Liverpool and Birmingham Consulates were issuing single Non Imm O for visiting a family member.

Liverpool issued me a single Non Imm O 2 years ago and I don't have any family or dependants in Thailand.

Yes it depends on your situation and circumstances, but something tells me you either weren't supplying the correct evidence or information to them.

I don't know the law here but in England 'common law wifes' are not entitled to anything on a break up.

Unless they have a baby together,

In which case she gets the house, and 15% of his salary for the next 19 years.

Not true, and not true.

Common law partners have rights in the UK.

Under UK law even when a married couple divorce, unless one party takes out a 'clean break order', one of the parties can still sue for financial support in the case where one of the parties wins or inherits a substantial amount of money.

You are totally wrong. Firstly there is no such thing a "common law spouses" in the UK, it is not legally recognised, period. One partner has absolutely no shout on the other person's assets (nor responsibility for their debts either). If one dies the dying person's family has legal right to the dead person's assets etc, not his "partner"; Unless a will has been drawn up of course and even then, how often do we see the dead person's family contesting these wills. People can write up cohabitation contracts before moving in together but even they are not very robust. If one partner dies, the other partner has no rights to the dead persons bank accounts - unless they have joint accounts. It's pretty harsh as it happens but it is what it is.

More info here

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/relationships/living-together-marriage-and-civil-partnership/living-together-and-marriage-legal-differences/

Really, you need to look up cohabitation rights!

I and many I know who did not marry but cohabited and contributed financially must be exceptions to the law then.

My son, who had cohabited with his g/f in her house for 7 years, has just been awarded £20,000 for improvements to her home from his finances and labour, plus the legal costs involved in bringing the law suit. He is a builder by trade.

She thought the same as you!

The house is now for sale if your interested.

A g/f cohabited with me in my house for 6 months. Her old car gave up the ghost and I purchased her a newish car to travel to work.

On our agreed separation, I requested return of the car, she refused.

After seeking legal advice she returned the car.

Although she had possession and was registered as the owner, I had the proof of purchase.

Don't believe the old wives tale possession is 9/10th of the law.

http://www.lawdonut.co.uk/law/personal-law/divorce-separation-cohabitation/your-cohabitation-rights-living-together-as-a-couple

1. Doesn't have to be in a Thai bank A/C.

UK A/C showing the equivalent of 400,000 THB.

Your name or joint names (your the applicant).

2. No translations required as long as documents are in Thai or English.

http://www.thaiembassy.sg/visa-matters-/-consular/visa-requirements/non-immigrant-visa-o-thai-spouse

All documents: Documents in languages other than Thai or English have to be translated into either Thai or English and notarised by notary organs or relevant diplomatic/consular missions.

3. Letter from wife stating purpose of visit and invitation to Thailand.

pure greed. she is just trying to bite a part of her boyfriend's fortune. it's was really stupid to tell her about the lottery ticket.

hope she will loose the case. it's really hard to rob the father of a child in Thailand, if he is not married with the mother.

childcare should be none of the business of the state. it's up to father how much does he eager to give for a child.

your ex-husband gives you not enough to support your child? biology made it up to woman to choose a partner to make kids. That's why men have to spend so much time, energy and resources to get sex.

so if you chose the wrong guy - it's your mistake and nobody's else.

Are you serious?

He has a child with this woman, as a MAN he has responsibilities for that child and it does not matter what the law says.

If you really believe what you have written then I suggest you take a long hard look at yourself and try to learn what it means to be a REAL MAN.

I hope this man comes to his senses and does the right thing. He won this money, he didn't work for it but luck has smiled upon him. He should now take care of his responsibilities and take care of his child with or without the woman.

sorry to disappoint you, but the whole idea of THE REAL MAN is a manipulation (among many others, of course) used by society in order to make men to behave in someone's else interests.

remember, all your "I am obligated" are someone's else "I want"

real REAL MAN does what he wants and wishes and does not give a rat's ass for what other people think REAL MAN is obligated to do.

people, be free!

Do you know the difference between a 'REAL MAN' and a Condom?

Condoms are no longer thick and insensitive!

I don't know the law here but in England 'common law wifes' are not entitled to anything on a break up.

Unless they have a baby together,

In which case she gets the house, and 15% of his salary for the next 19 years.

Not true, and not true.

Common law partners have rights in the UK.

Under UK law even when a married couple divorce, unless one party takes out a 'clean break order', one of the parties can still sue for financial support in the case where one of the parties wins or inherits a substantial amount of money.

TM Form - Which one to be lodged?

TM7 for the extension of stay.

Download here: http://immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=download

Yea, yea

A broken record?

Broken records are useful, they CAN be recycled.

Visa extension @ CNX I/O - 12 years now.

B800k in bank in LOS.

You can't extend a Visa.

You extend your permission to stay.

A Visa allows entry and permission to stay for the validity of the Visa type.

When that Visa expires, a red 'USED' stamp will be stamped across it by Immigration.

Thereafter annually Immigration will stamp a 'permit' in your passport.

You need a 're-entry permit' to keep your extension alive.

The conditions and criteria attached to acquiring Visas and Extensions are totally different.

On a similar tack, and again with Bangkok Bank, a friend, whilst living in Koh Chang, opened a 3year fixed deposit account. It maturred last week. Now living in Surin province, he went into the local Bangkok Bank, where he has a savings account and asked to withdraw his matured fixed deposit money.

NO WAY. The ONLY solution was for him to travel all the way to koh Chang, and close the account and withdraw the money.

TIT (THIS IS THAILAND!!!)

It's best to make yourself aware of how things work in Thailand.

Provinces are like autonomous regions, and the banks work within each province, not Nationally.

If you withdraw cash from an ATM outside the Province you opened your account a small fee is usually charged.

If you move to a different province, then transfer your bank account to a branch within that province.

Your friend could have transferred his account to Surin, then withdrawn the money.

Your are correct - best to go upstairs for anything longer than the regular 30 day extension.

And yes, I often overhear these volunteers offering inappropriate information to extension applicants. It really annoys me when some (not all) of these volunteers talk about a visa renewal (nonsense) when it's an extension application. No point in me trying to correct that misinformation as the volunteers get annoyed and the newbie applicant always believes the volunteers. These days I just keep my mouth shut.

Immigration officers quite often use the term 'Visa' (which is misleading), but not being natural English speakers, it's a lot easier than saying 'extension of stay based on................', which is quite a mouthful.

I presume the English speaking volunteers follow the leaders, so as not to confuse even further.

I find most English speaking expats also just don't know the difference between a 'Visa' and a 'Permit to Stay' because they rarely actually read what is printed and affixed in their passports.

You may not be able to change this in her - - she might just need a mood break for whatever reason….

BUT - what you can change is your attitude towards it and your reaction to it.

If you are sensitive, which you sound to be, then your natural reaction is "HEY. What did I do?" - The answer is that it is not likely about you. It is caused by something inside of her. We are all emotional and chemical and complicated beings… don't internalize these 'periods?' of hers. Keep it really low key and let it pass. If anything be a bit more affectionate if she responds or seems to want that. She may just want to be left alone for a little while.

It really sounds as if this behavior is not a reaction to you - it may pass as she becomes more mature - it may be something you just have to accept - hopefully it will not get worse. But, none of us are perfect and all of us have quirks. This just does not sound too bad and it seems like you have so much good…

Good sensible advice.

I had a similar problem. For no apparent reason I'd get the silent treatment.

Although very rare, it was frustrating.

I started to react by giving her the same treatment, which she didn't like and would ask what was wrong.

It made her realise the effect her silent treatment had on me and she opened up to discussing the issue.

It was basically just a bad day at the office syndrome.

Now if she has a bad day she vents her frustration by discussing the issue with me.

Some people get angry, some go silent, it's just a part of a someone's personality, but you do have to tackle the problem if it affects you.

If you purchased it in Thailand there's a good chance it isn't genuine Windows.

Update:

After an Administrative review my friend received an apologetic reply from the UKBA.

They admitted to an error of entry date and name, but assure him the application wasn't mixed up with anyone else.

They blame that error on overlapping stamps in her passport.

They stand by their decision of refusal based on financial requirements.

Apparently the IO who handles the case after refusing on Financial grounds, then gave reasons of refusal for the 10 year route, in case they considered that as an option. The UKBA admit that was wrong and misleading.

He actually submitted current letters from his Pension providers, government and company, showing a combined annual income of £24,600 per annum.

3 current saving account statement, showing over £50,000 in savings.

10 bank statements (joint account) taken from across the 33 month period. (The UKBA helpline advised he only need to send a few from across the period).

Although he resent the above documents with his complaint and request for an Administrative review, and 31 bank statements detailing his monthly income of over £2,000 per month, they state he will now have to submit them to his appeal at the Tribunal hearing.

The date of the hearing is May 2016.

She then noticed that my missus' house registration is in Samut Sakhon. She said I should put my name on her book and do my extension at their immigration. It's easier.

This shows just how ignorant they are of their own laws.

You cannot put your name on her book (unless you have PR status), so bad advice all round.

Birthdays just remind me I'm another year older.

I stopped bothering when the candles cost more than the cake!

My Thai g/f and her family acknowledge birthdays but don't celebrate them.

They don't celebrate Xmas either, so when I didn't get a present last year, it came as a shock at 62 to find out Santa Claus doesn't exist either!

Hi OP

You mentioned in one of your posts about 'Being 21 and starting to make money online'

It's time to come clean - are you being paid to start 'click-bait' topics with lots of page views/responses? So far you're pressing all the right 'hot buttons' for our grumpy TVF denizens...with i) how to live super-cheap in LOS and ii) driving in Thailand

Here are some other suggestions for 'hot topics'

- What is the spray thingie for next to the toilet?

- Why do pens in Thailand always stop working after you've bought them?

- Help - my shoes have disintegrated!

- Why are the ants eating my underpants?

- Speaking of pants, where can I buy some in LOS that don't give me torsion of the testes?

- Why do they put used skiddy toilet paper in the bin next to the toilet?

- Why is there always a woman in the toilet mopping round my feet when I'm trying take a wizz?

- Why can't I walk on the pavements in BKK?

- My girlfriend is a hi-so because....

- Should I buy or rent a property in Thailand

- etc.

It's a public forum. The OP has just as much rights as you and I to post.

Nobody forces you to read and reply.

Create your own topics if you don't like others.

I seriously doubt if 2 Immigration-offices follow the law and rules same same way - each office make up their own little requirements to the poor sods that have to dance to their silly tune ...

Does anyone have information as to who to contact if an immigration office ignores the current laws and demands unnecessary documentation or non lawful requirements?

Can one go to the head office of iimigration for ones documentation if one is being shafted by a subsiduary office?

What do you call 'unnecessary' documentation?

Your a foreigner staying in Thailand by permission of the Immigration department.

The onus is on you to provide such documents they may request to satisfy your Immigration status.

You can ring the Immigration helpline on 1111 if you need to make a complaint.

the tm30 form is to be submitted to immigration/police by the landlord/housemaster. it has nothing to do with the tenant or guest as such the landlord/housemaster can refuse to give a completed tm30 form to the tenant or guest. they must submit it to immigration/police themselves

• The TM30 can be submitted by anyone in person or by post.
• It can be completed by anyone qualifying as the house-master or owner or possessor.

Going by thaivisa some immigration offices want foreigners applying for extensions to include a tm 30 form. Now if I was a landlord would I want the tenant to know my home address. I may not want that. Would I want the tenant to have a copy of my id. I do not think so. Would I want the tenant to have a copy of the house book. I do not think so.

You are right the owner/House master does not have to submit it personally but it does not have to be done via the tenant which immigration at some offices have requested. The way I read it by some posters is that if they do not submit the tm30 with their application they will not be granted an extension

If I was a landlord, I'd want copies of my tenants ID.

Thais copy their ID for numerous procedures. They write 'copy' and 'sign' across the page.

If your landlord refuses to give you copies, then you need to find another landlord.

The TM30 can be completed and signed by the tenant, depending on the circumstances.

I submitted my TM30 on behalf of my landlord, along with copies of her ID and Tabian Baan.

Section 38 : The house – master , the owner or the possessor of the residence , or the hotel manager where the alien , receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed , must notify the competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours , dwelling place or hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. If there is no Immigration Office located in that area , the local police official for that area must be notified.

“ House Master ” means any persons who is the chief possessor of a house , whether in the capacity of owner , tenant , or in any other capacity whatsoever , in accordance with the law on people act.

A TM30 should only be required to be submitted once for your permanent residency.

However an Immigration Office or Officer, can request a new TM30 when re-applying for an extension, or when taking up residence again after leaving the Country.

Although rare, an IO can request whatever documentation he feels is necessary under the rules to satisfy his idiosyncrasy.

Going prepared is the key to a successful application without problems.

Just make sure you leave after 90 days (not 3 months).

Visit your nearest Immigration office 7 days before your Tourist Visas expire to extend them for another 30 days.

You may find this map and locations of Immigration offices useful.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&t=h&msa=0&z=6&ie=UTF8&mid=zgfDwlRKjQiw.ki8rj55aIYww

hi can anyone tell me what I need to take to immgration to do my one year retirement extention at jontiem . do I need to take proof of where I live. if so what? thanks

Copies of rental agreement.

Landlords ID card.

Landlords Tabian Baan.

Utility Bill.

Address pinpointed on map.

Not much more they can ask for as proof of address, unless you have your own Tabian Baan.

Just adding to the mix. Arrived 28 July 2015. First report due soon, so decided to give the online a shot.

No Mac browser worked, as referenced many times here in this thread.

I have Win10 installed as a dual boot, and IE10 loaded the page beautifully. All fields were smooth and all entries worked without delay or problems, drop downs for nationality, entry date both worked great.

As soon as I entered the Captcha, I got a green 'verified'.

Unfortunately, that is where the love ends. Submitted the form and immediately got the 'Report to Local office' blah blah blah.

So, the website seems to work, bot looks like my information is not in the system yet. Off to make my first in person report soon.

Is there a thread that can be used to find the nearest Imm office? I am in Nonthaburi, near the Ngamwongwan Mall.

Thanks,

Michael

How did you enter Thailand?

Re-entry permit or Non Imm O-A Visa.

Jiu-Jitsu, you remember, you wanted to proof with your chart tourist numbers decreases. I still must laugh about a 15 month chart during political unrest, rainy season etc..

I think I wrote already, a M5 (mah ha) school kid would have failed with it to proof tourism dcrease.

Don't forget, all is about dual pricing how Thai government shoots itself in the foot with it.

I just showed, tourist decrease is wishful thinking by all those who are against dual pricing.

You can remember?

You only need to Google 'Thai Tourism' to find many links to Thai Newspapers and the Thai Tourist Board that state since 2013 Tourist numbers have been in decline.

Every Friday evening we are subject to reports on the state of the economy by Gen Prayuth on Thai National television.

Even he admits tourist numbers are still falling.

Your argument falls flat on it's face before you reach the first hurdle.

Now I suggest you get back on topic about the dual pricing, rather than arguing about Tourist numbers, or the Mods should close this thread.

Job well done Furryman.

You'll find dealing with Government departments much easier now than continually getting Certificates of Residence.

It's another step to integrating into Thai society.

Gen Prayuth "Thailand doesn't condone corruption, it must be stamped out" .............unless we call it Dual Pricing!