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Entering Visa exempt grants a stay of 60 days, which you can extend for a further 30 days at a local Immigration office. (1,900 BHT) However, if you intend having dealings with an Immigration office, then you'll need to file a TM30 (or be later fined). Then, for the extension, completing a TM7 and copies of various passport pages + plus travel time and time spent at the IO. Agree with @DrJack54 and @Upnotover the extra 700 BHT for the Non O visa avoids the bureaucracy of dealing with an Immigration office.

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Following the above. If you didn't want to return to a Thai Embassy to obtain a new Non Imm O-A visa, but wanted to stay in Thailand, then you would have to apply to extend your period of stay at a local Immigration office subject to meeting the criteria set by Thai Immigration. For a 1-year extension based on retirement, the financial requirements are thus; Because you entered using a Non Imm O-A visa that was subject to a mandatory Health Insurance policy, that requirement also applies to applications to extend your stay. If you aren't willing to deposit 800K in a Thai bank to meet the 'funds' method, start transferring 65K per month from overseas. Once you have a year of international transfers (12 x 65K) to a Thai bank account as evidence of monthly income, you can apply for an extension using the 'income' method.

You cannot extend the validity of a visa, but you can extend the permission of stay granted by entry of a visa. Understand that Thai Embassies and Consulates in other Countries are regulated by Thailand's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, who dictate the available visa types and attached conditions thereof. Thai Immigration regulate the conditions for entering and remaining in Thailand. Two different entities. This general information posted by the MFA may make it clearer; 7. Please note that the period of visa validity is different from the period of stay. Visa validity is the period during which a visa can be used to enter Thailand. In general, the validity of a visa is 3 months, but in some cases, visas may be issued to be valid for 6 months, 1 year or 3 years. The validity of a visa is granted with discretion by the Royal Thai Embassy or Royal Thai Consulate-General and is displayed on the visa sticker. 8. On the other hand, the period of stay is granted by an immigration officer upon arrival at the port of entry and in accordance with the type of visa. For example, the period of stay for a transit visa is not exceeding 30 days, for a tourist visa is not exceeding 60 days and for a non-immigrant visa is not exceeding 90 days from the arrival date. The period of stay granted by the immigration officer is displayed on the arrival stamp. Travellers who wish to stay longer than such period may apply for extension of stay at offices of the Immigration Bureau https://www.mfa.go.th/en/page/general-information?menu=5e1ff6d057b01e00a6391dc5 How a Non Imm O-A visa works in practice: A multi entry Non Imm O-A Visa. (Long stay). Valid 1 year. Can be issued to those who are over +50 who intend to remain in Thailand for long periods. This Visa allows unlimited 1 year entries before the ‘enter before’ date of the Visa, at which point this Visa is ‘used’. If you leave and re-enter just before the ‘enter before’ date of this Visa type you are granted another 1 year permission to stay. You will however require a re-entry permit if you intend to leave and re-enter Thailand during this 2nd year permission of stay period. This is because when the Visa expires on the ‘enter before’ date, so does the ME facility, which is only valid for the duration of the Visa's validity (1 year) If used correctly, you can stay in Thailand for almost 24 months with this Visa type. If the Visa was issued 1st July 2022, it would be valid until 30th June 2023. You enter Thailand 10th July 2022, you'll be granted a permission of stay (POS) until 9th July 2023*. You exit Thailand in Sept and re-enter Oct 4th 2022. On entry, you'll be granted POS until Oct 3rd 2023*. (1 year). You exit Thailand again in Feb 2023 and re-enter March18th 2023. On entry, you'll be granted POS until March 17th 2024*. (1 year) To take full advantage of the Visa's potential, do a border run and re-enter on June 29th 2023, the day before the Visa expiry date. On entry, you'll be granted POS until June 28th 2024*.(1 year). However, because the validity of the Visa has now expired, so has the multi entry facility attached to the Visa. If you want to exit and re-enter between the June 29th 2023 and June 28th 2024*, you can protect this period of stay by purchasing a re-entry permit, 1000 baht single entry, 3,800 baht multi entry. If you exit and re-enter anytime now during the period June 29th 2023 and June 28th 2024, on each entry you'll be granted permission of stay until June 28th 2024*. From the above example, you can clearly see how you can stay for almost 2 years before either applying for a new Non Imm O-A Visa, or apply to extend your stay at a local Immigration office. (Financials apply) *Subject to the mandatory Health Insurance policy validity date. (see below). A mandatory Health Insurance policy requiring 3,000,000 THB ($100,000) cover is required for the Non Imm O-A Visa application. The permission of stay granted on any entry is impacted by the expiry date of the Insurance policy. Any permission of stay granted on entry will be limited to the expiry date of the Insurance policy. You should therefore consider a 2 year Health Insurance policy so as not to affect the periods of stay granted on multiple entries. Simple example; If the mandatory Insurance policy was issued with a start date of 1st July and the Non Imm 0-A issued on 1st July, but you didn't enter Thailand until 1st August, then on entry instead of being granted permission of stay for 12 months, you would only be granted permission of stay for 11 months, that being the expiry date of the Insurance policy.

Not if you're a US national as you stated. Filipino nationals and foreign nationals who are currently in the Republic of the Philippines, and Palau nationals who are currently in the Republic of Palau are eligible to apply for the e-Visa with the Royal Thai Embassy, Manila. Applicants from the following countries (please click here for the list) are required to hold a valid Philippine permanent resident visa before applying for an e-Visa. The above-mentioned applicants who do not hold a valid Philippine permanent resident visa are highly advised to apply with the Royal Thai Embassy in their home country, or with the Royal Thai Embassy which has jurisdiction over their country of residence. https://thaiembassymnl.ph/download/RTE Manila E-Visa Guidelines (as of 16June2025).pdf Applicants from the following countries are required to hold a valid Philippine permanent resident visa before applying for an e-Visa with the Royal Thai Embassy, Manila: Afghanistan** Algeria Bangladesh Cameroon Central African Republic China Congo Republic Democratic Republic of the Congo Egypt Equatorial Guinea Ghana Guinea India Iran Iraq** Lebanon Liberia Libya Nepal Nigeria* North Korea** Pakistan Palestine Sao Tome and Principe Sierra Leone Somalia Sri Lanka Sudan Syria Yemen https://www.thaiembassymnl.ph/download/RTE-Manila-Required-Philippine-permanent-resident-visa.pdf

I use a 12 month FTD account with 400K + in all year round. The letter was issued no problem, without the need to freeze the account.

Correct. If said 400K has been in the bank for 4 months prior to requesting the Immigration letter, then the account is not frozen. Always recommended waiting until the extension application is approved before withdrawing any funds.

And many like me started receiving the UK state pension when I was 65. Not every IO will accept the combination method, and the ambiguously worded order can be interpreted differently by different IO's. At Roi Et, they insist the minimum funds of 400K are maintained throughout the year. Also, if using the income method alone, or as part of the combination method, they always request proof the income is from a pension. @piston broke would be best inquiring at Pattaya.

You're obviously very confused between the requirement applying for the Non O based on Thai spouse, with the requirements for a 1-year extension application based on the same at Immigration. For the Non O from the Thai Embassy London you only require a copy of your marriage certificate (Kor Ror 3) and spouse ID card. An updated copy of the marriage registration is required by Immigration for the 1 year extension application (Kor Ror 2). The financial requirement for the Non O based on Thai spouse is less than for retirement. To stay with Thai family residing in Thailand (more than 60 days) Required Document ( Please check relevant embassy/ consulate-general website for specific required documents) Biodata page of Passport or Travel Document Photograph taken within the last six months Document indicating current location Financial evidence showing monthly income of no less than 40,000 THB or having the current balance of 400,000 THB (e.g., bank statements for the last three months, sponsor letter) Personal details of a family in Thailand (e.g., ID card, passport and the visa page or stay permit in Thailand) Proof of relationship to a family in Thailand (e.g., a copy of marriage certificate/birth certificate/certificate of adoption) https://www.thaievisa.go.th/visa/non-immigrant-o

As you originally stated, Non O retirement without mention of a Thai spouse, is your marriage still de jure and defacto? Your 'wife' would have to attend to apply for a 60 day extension.

A visa applied for at a Thai Embassy requires funds to be in any bank account, however on the other hand an extension of your permission of stay from Thai Immigration is a permit, not a visa, and requires the funds to be in a Thai bank account.

Always and only go direct to the London Thai Embassy website. E-visa site from where you'll apply states the same £18,000. (Equivalent of 800,000 BHT). Retirement (pensioner aged 50 or above with state pension who wishes to stay in Thailand for no longer than 90 days) Required Document ( Please check relevant embassy/ consulate-general website for specific required documents) Biodata page of Passport or Travel Document Photograph taken within the last six months Document indicating current location Financial evidence showing monthly income of no less than 65,000 THB or having the current balance of 800,000 THB (e.g., bank statements for the last three months, sponsor letter) https://www.thaievisa.go.th/visa/retirement

Yes. That looks to be a very old requirement. For the Non Imm O visa based on retirement, it's via the link I gave to the Thai Embassy in London. https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/retirement-visa £10,000 was what I had to show for the Non O back in 2013.

Single bank statement min of £18,000.

£18,000.

No idea where you're getting that information from. Retirement Visa NON-IMMIGRANT VISA TYPE O Retirement (Single entry) Retirement (pensioner aged 50 or above with state pension who wishes to stay in Thailand for no longer than 90 days) 1. Biodata page of Passport or Travel Document 2. Photograph taken within the last six months - If the photograph does not reflect your current appearance, you may be refused to enter the Kingdom of Thailand. 3. Document indicating current location - Applicant’s local utility bills (shows your name and address) e.g. electricity bill/ gas / mobile phone / rental agreement. 4 Financial evidence showing monthly income of no less than 65,000 THB (£1,500) or having the current balance of 800,000 THB (£18,000), e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings - Applicant’s recent official UK/Ireland bank statement shows your name, address (Screenshots are not accepted). For monthly income of last 3 months no less than £1,500/ month. https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/retirement-visa

No. The agent would have obtained the extension based on 800K in the bank, so for the next extension you'd have to show evidence of that 800K remaining in the bank for 3 months afterwards, then no less than 400K for the next 7 months, as well as 12 x 65K monthly overseas transfers to qualify for the next extension. Essentially, 2 bank statements, one proving you complied with the previous extension, and one proving you meet the requirements for the new extension. If the extension obtained by the agent was from a different IO to where you reside (usually the case) then you'd have to file a new TM30 with the IO where you actually resided, but immaterial as you'll have to use the agent again.

That's using an agent to do the legwork when you meet the financial requirements, but that wasn't your initial question.

Do you suffer from a reading comprehension disorder? OP asked about using an agent to apply for an extension without funds. If you don't have the funds, how can you deposit, 800K 3 weeks beforehand. As mentioned above by @BrandonJT. Friend entered Thailand on a TV, had bank account from beforehand and transferred the 800K. Went to an agent in Bangkok, who obtained him the Non O, 1 year extension and multi entry permit from CW. Travelled up to Amnat Charoen where he lived with his girlfriend and filed a TM30 on arrival. Submitted first 90 day report, and they refused, telling him to go back and report to CW. Reason ......... the Non O and extension were both issued the same day. Did 90 day border hops instead. Applying for first extension at Amnat, they requested bank statement going back to two months before the extension was applied for, to ensure it was seasoned, which obvious it wasn't, so he had to do a further border run, apply for the Non O in Savannahket, then 2 months later apply for the extension at Amnat again, which they granted.

If you used an agent because you didn't have the necessary funds, but later deposited the funds, how for the next extension could you provide evidence of 13 month's compliance? There is only 12 months in a year, 13 months would take you back to the point the agent applied because you didn't have the funds. You'd have to wait for the following year in order to comply.

You can open a new account and transfer any funds, but for the next extension you'd have to provide evidence for both accounts.

Topic is about using an agent when you don't have the funds, not hand holding when you have the funds.

Nah, you miss the point you couldn't comply the following year if you used an agent for the financials because you wouldn't be able to meet the financial requirements for a further year after that. In that situation, to do it yourself the following year, start again with a Non O visa.

Simple answer, no! It's a requirement by law for foreigners to register their address with Immigration using a TM30 form. That registered address dictates which office you can submit applications at. From the Thai Immigration Act: Section 38 : The house – master , the owner or the possessor of the residence , or the hotel manager where the alien , receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed , must notify the competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours , dwelling place or hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. Section 4: House Master ” means any persons who is the chief possessor of a house , whether in the capacity of owner , tenant , or in any other capacity whatsoever , in accordance with the law on people act.