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Oh dear, now you're being a total idiot and trying to drag me down to your level so you can beat me with your experience. Do you have a reading comprehension issue. Do you take any notice of the forms you complete and documents you sign at Immigration. The term 'marriage' visa is also commonly used for the Non O SE visa and Non O ME visa, issued by Thai Embassies /Consulates. Visas display the type and number of permitted entries. How many entries does your so-called visa issued by Immigration have. None, because it's a permit, not a visa. Every form you complete and sign makes it abundantly clear you're applying to extend your permitted period of stay. TM7 - Application for extension of temporary stay in the Kingdom (extending your period of stay, not the outdated invalid visa) STM2 - Acknowledgement of terms and conditions for permit of stay in the kingdom Which goes on to state: I do hereby acknowledge the terms and conditions of this permit. Even the stamp you receive states 'Extension of stay permitted up to .......' If you could extend a visa beyond its validity, then you wouldn't need a re-entry permit for an extension.

2 sets of documents only required for extensions based on Thai spouse/family. Your local IO keep one set, the other set is sent to regional offices for approval.

It should be the foreigner that signs, acknowledging the overstay rules. In addition to the two sets of documents and TM7's that I provide, my IO issue 3 other documents for signing. 1. Acknowledgement of terms and conditions for permit of temporary stay. (I sign) 2. Acknowledgement of overstay rules. (I sign) 3. Affidavit statement. (Wife signs).

There is no type of visa known as a 'marriage' visa. There is the Non Imm O single and multiple entry visa types that can be applied for based on Thai spouse. The OP has a valid Non Imm O ME visa issued legitimately by a Thai Embassy/Consulate, so how is he gaming the system? The second point being it's already been established that under the new TM30 regulations (2020) there should be no requirement to file any further TM30's on entry from a valid multi entry visa. I believe you're confusing a 1-year extension of stay issued by Immigration offices, with visas issued by Thai Embassies/Consulates. Annual extension stamps issued by Immigration are permits, not visas.

Bad experiences with women, Jack? Perhaps the answer to your problems is staring right at you, in the mirror.

The responsibility to file a TM30 lies between either the owner, landlord or the tenant. This is why tenants are fined by Immigration because it's just as much their responsibility as the owner or landlord. Section 38 of the Immigration Act states; The house – master , the owner or the possessor of the residence, or the hotel manager where the alien , receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed , must notify the competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours, dwelling place or hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. If there is no Immigration Office located in that area , the local police official for that area must be notified. Section 4 of the Act defines who is classed as a housemaster. “ House Master ” means any persons who is the chief possessor of a house, whether in the capacity of owner, tenant, or in any other capacity whatsoever, in accordance with the law on people act. So as a tenant and also the possessor of the house you are by definition classed as the housemaster and therefore responsible to file a TM30 and/or be fined for non-compliance.

It was the Immigration authorities that scrapped the TM28, just prior to issuing the new TM30 regulations. The TM27 replaced the TM28. If you move to a new permanent residency, it's the TM30 they require.

Do read the full topic before replying.

If you don't meet the financial requirements, then yes. You mean a Non Imm O visa based on Thai spouse, nothing, but then why do you want to change to an extension of stay based on retirement unless due to ill health your wife cannot attend the Immigration office for the 1-year extension application based on Thai spouse. In that scenario, you should speak to your Immigration office, who can make alternative arrangements.

Have you tried? Folks assume all Immigration officers are familiar with their own regulations, which is not always the case.

The TM28 was scrapped in 2020. https://aseannow.com/topic/1149328-tm28-thai-immigration-scraps-requirement-for-foreigners-to-report-when-they-stay-away-from-home-for-24-hours/ Off-topic, but you needed an agent to recommend a gardener - really! Didn't you think to just ask the locals? Agents are not charitable institutions, they run a business, and charge for services they provide.

The OP is clearly on a Non Imm O multi entry visa based on Thai spouse obtained from a Thai Embassy/Consulate. The Non Imm O ME visa is valid for 12 months and only permits stays of 90 days on each entry. Oh, FFS! Visas cannot be extended. Single entry visas are 'used' on entry. Multiple entry visas expire on the 'enter before' date. You extend your temporary permission of stay at Immigration offices. If you read the forms you complete for your extension applications, it would be clear you are applying to extend your temporary permission of stay (TM7) and the STM2 form you complete acknowledging the terms and conditions for the 'permit' of stay, clearly indicates you are applying for and will receive a 'permit of stay' for one year.

You have of course taken the issue up with Chonburi for non-compliance of Immigrations regulations?

@keysersoze276 Just who advised you to file a new TM30 on each 90 day entry? According to the new TM30 Thai regulations issued June 5th 2020, those re-entering with a valid multi entry visa are not required to file a new TM30 for each entry. TM30 reporting regulation (Eng).pdf Quote; The alien mentioned in paragraph 1 shall include any alien receiving a multiply entry visa who departs the Kingdom and returns within the validity of visa and any alien permitted to re-enter into the Kingdom with a valid re-entry permit. Also, who informed you it was the landlord's responsibility to file TM30's. This is not the case. According to the Immigration Act, the tenant as the possessor is just as equally responsible as the owner or landlord, hence aliens are often fined for non-compliance. You can register and file TM30's online https://tm30.immigration.go.th/tm30api/loginExternal.jsp?value=EXT&id=01087a0f2a9f21d50583234777c700c2 or in person. You will need a copy of the owners Tabien Baan and their ID card, which the landlord should supply. In the event (which I've come across) the landlord refuses or states they don't have, then advise Immigration, and they'll read her the riot act!

You are perfectly correct Jack. After 2.2 it states; The alien mentioned in paragraph 1 shall include any alien receiving a multiply entry visa who departs the Kingdom and returns within the validity of visa and any alien permitted to re-enter into the Kingdom with a valid re-entry permit.

No you're not. You can apply for a 60-day extension for each entry, in which case a border run is required for a new entry every 150 days. You can stay in Thailand for almost 17 months with a Non Imm O ME visa, with only 3 border runs and 3 x 60 day extensions before applying for a new Non O ME visa.

I believe from the OP's statement, he has a Non Imm O ME visa, hence his 90-day exit and re-entries. In that case, he will have to submit a new TM30 for each 90 day entry. The new TM30 regulations only state there is no further requirement to file a new TM30, provided your permission of stay has not yet ended. The OP's permission of stay ends each time he exits, and he receives a new permission of stay on re-entry.

The visa only permits travel to Thailand. On entry, you are given a stamp permitting your length of stay based on the type of Visa you obtained. You thereafter extend this period of stay, commonly known as extensions of stay. You would require the Non Imm O visa to visit Thai spouse/family. Not sure what you've been reading, but the financial requirements are less based on Thai spouse than for retirement. For example; The Non Imm O visa applied for on the basis of Thai spouse only requires proof of a bank statement showing the equivalent of 20,000 THB. https://canberra.thaiembassy.org/non-immigrant-visa-category-o/ – For Non-O “Single Entry” Visa, a bank statement in the past six months showing a deposit account with the minimum fund of equivalent to THB 20,000 per person or THB 40,000 per family Whereas the Non Imm O visa based on retirement also requires proof of a bank statement showing the equivalent of 20,000 THB. https://canberra.thaiembassy.org/retirement-visa-categories/ 3.5.1 For Non-immigrant “O” Visa A bank statement in the past six months showing a deposit account with the minimum fund of equivalent to THB 20,000. However, once in Thailand, to extend your permission of stay for 1 year at a time, based on retirement, you must provide evidence of either a funds deposit in a Thai bank account of 800,000 THB, or 12 monthly overseas transfers of 65,000 THB to a Thai bank account. To extend your permission of stay for 1 year at a time, based on Thai spouse, you must provide evidence of either a funds deposit in a Thai bank account of 400,000 THB, or 12 monthly overseas transfers of 40,000 THB to a Thai bank account.

Correct. For UK registered marriages, the process starts in the UK. Basically you must first send your UK marriage certificate to the Home office in Milton Keynes for authentication, then forward to the Thai Embassy in London for a vignette which authenticates the Home office stamp and signature. On arrival in Thailand, the UK marriage certificate must be translated to Thai, then both documents must be legalised by Thailand's Ministry of Foreign Affairs. You present both the legalised marriage certificate and translation to your local Amphur office, who will then register your foreign marriage.

Hi Jaxon, Section 34 of the Thai Immigration Act lists 15 different activities you may enter Thailand for; Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979) ENG.pdf Section 34 : aliens entering into the kingdom for a temporary stay may enter for the below listed activities ; 1. Diplomatic or Consular Missions. 2. Performance of official duties. 3. Touring 4. Sporting 5. Business 6. Investing under the concurrence of the Ministries and Departments concerned. 7. Investing or other activities relating to investing subject to the provisions of the law on investment promotion. 8. Transit journey. 9. Being the person in charge of the crew of a conveyance coming to port, station , or area in the Kingdom. 10. Study or observation. 11. Mass media. 12. Missionary work under the concurrence of the Ministries and departments concerned. 13. Scientific research or training or teach in a Research Institute in the Kingdom. 14. The practice of skilled handicraft or as a specialist 15. Other activities as prescribed in the Ministerial Regulations. The letter ''O'' in a Non Imm O visa merely stands for 'Other' activities not listed in 1-14 and includes for the purpose of retirement or visiting/staying with Thai spouse/family. The Non O-A visa is issued purely for the purpose of retirement. The Non O single entry visa can be applied for on the basis of retirement or Thai spouse/family, the only difference being documents supplied and the financial requirements. Certain Thai Embassies also offer the Non Imm O multi entry visa on the basis of retirement or Thai spouse/family. In your particular case, you should apply for the Non O single entry visa based on Thai spouse. The validity of the Visa and the period of stay are different. The Non O SE visa is valid to enter Thailand for 3 months. On entry, you are granted a period of stay of 90 days. You cannot extend a visa, but you can extend your temporary period of stay for 1 year based on retirement or Thai spouse/family, subject to meeting the financial requirements. These are commonly referred to as extensions of stay and are permits (of stay), not visas. One issue you have is that you mentioned you married in the UK. Whilst the Thai Embassy, London will accept your UK marriage certificate as proof of marriage, internal Thai Immigration offices will not accept a foreign marriage certificate for applications of extending your stay based on Thai spouse. Your UK marriage must first be registered in Thailand, and there is a legal procedure for doing that.

Lampang in Lumphun?

Aaah, the Building and Construction Authority Immigration office.

That link only states income, it's what's defined as an income that can matter. Savings are not considered an income, as they deplete. Read 138-2557 (2014) Docs for extensions - ENG.pdf Section 2.18 - marriage to a Thai national.

A question often overlooked in these situations is "Did you marry in the UK or Thailand"? It does matter and makes a difference. Based on Thai spouse - correct. You can use Wise to transfer from your personal UK bank account to your Thai bank account, no problem. Note: Due to financial restrictions, you can only send over 50K THB per transaction to Bangkok Bank, Kasikorn or SCB. https://wise.com/help/articles/2932335/guide-to-thb-transfers As already stated, if using the 40K THB monthly transfer option for annual extensions of stay, you will require evidence of 12 monthly overseas transfers. However, Immigration orders state only income from pensions, investments or dividends are acceptable. As an aside, should you decide to use the 400K THB in a Thai bank option (funds), then Immigration orders state the 400K must be in a Thai bank account for 60 days prior to submitting your annual extension application. Once the extension is granted, you can withdraw and spend every baht. Repeat the following year.

@Ravi98008 You currently have an extension of stay until April 16th 2024. Your current passport expires March 6th 2025. Submit your extension application as normal in 2024 using existing passport. You will however only be given permission of stay until March 6, 2025, that being the expiry date of your current passport. Towards the end of 2024 apply for a new passport. When you receive the new passport, take it to Immigration, and they will transfer stamps from your old passport to the new. Your permission of stay is not affected, and you'll receive a new stamp in your new passport still permitting you to stay until March 6th 2025. This really is a no-brainer. If you replace your passport now, you're losing over 11 months of a perfectly valid passport, as opposed to doing your extension in 2024 as normal and lose only 5 weeks permission of stay. Your annual extension application date will change to March 6 for future years.