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Perhaps this https://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/issuing-and-changing-type-of-visa/ where you can download the PDF's such as the one I posted. You can also download Laws, regulations and Immigration orders from here:

Maybe, she never saw Immigrations updated policy regarding funds in the bank based on retirement 😉 35-2561 (2019 (changed clause 2.22 of 327-2557 ENG.pdf

The same thing happened to me after I transferred stamps to a new passport. Rejected - the details submitted did not match. Appears they don't update the system with a new passport number until you do the 90 day in person. When I asked why they don't update the system with the new passport number when transferring stamps, I got that blank stare as if asking a stupid question. I thought it was just my IO being lazy, but obviously not just my IO.

My bad. Never required half the documents listed on the 'form' you posted. Yes, I know I'm lucky, thanks!

To apply for a 1 year permit of stay based on Thai spouse (a permit, not a visa) you must have Non Immigrant status. If you enter, or have entered Thailand visa exempt, you can extend that stay by a further 30 days + a further 60 days when married. You can apply to change your status to Non Immigrant (Non O) at your local Immigration office, rather than a Thai Embassy. VE-TV to Non O Spouse.pdf Requires 400K THB in a Thai bank account on the day of application for Non O, then for 2 months prior to applying for the 1 year permit of stay extension.

Options based on retirement; 1. You could apply for the Non O from London, but would require the equivalent of 800K THB in any bank. https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/retirement-visa 2. You could apply for the Tourist visa from London, https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/tourist-single-entry-visa which would grant a stay of 60 days + 30 day extension = 90 days. 3. Apply in Khon Kaen to change status to Non Immigrant (Non O) VE-TV to Non O Retirement.pdf requires at least 15 days permission of stay remaining to apply, and 800K THB in a Thai bank account on the day of submission. Grants a stay of 90 days. 4. Apply for the 1-year permit of stay after 800K seasoned in a Thai bank for 2 months.

Never required half the forms it states on that list. Get a yelloe house book, then you don't need a COR.

You only submit a 90 day report after staying 90 consecutive days in the Country. As already stated, the day you enter is day 1 of the 90 day count. Using @DrJack54 example, your next 90 day report would be due 22nd August 2024. You can submit online 14 days before that date, so 8th August, or in person up to 6 days after, which is 28th August.

The stamp in your passport is a permit, that grants a period of stay in Thailand. The 'permitted to stay until' stamp in my passport indicates my notified period of stay.

Chat GPT is useless and known to change original factual information. My wife, who is Thai, and more capable of you or ChatGPT of translating Thai, states it says; "Return to live in the same place under the admission period that has not yet ended". The admission period being your extension of stay. "Permitted to stay until ........."

Off topic, but you certainly don't have a long term visa.

Another commercial website designed for gain. This website is managed by Siam Legal International - a law firm in Thailand https://www.thaiembassy.com/disclaimer GENERAL DISCLAIMER The information provided at this site is of a general nature and may not apply to any particular set of facts or under all circumstances. Do you have a reading comprehensive disability, or do you just enjoy trolling and causing disruption.

Notified period of stay is on your permission of stay stamp. There is no requirement to file a new TM30 if you return within your permission of stay period, using a re-entry permit, or with a multiple re-entry visa. Read previous posts where the new TM30 Immigration regulation is posted.

All commercial websites, agents, whose interest is making money from gullible foreigners that believe their crap. From your first link; We are a online agency which submits TM30 forms to the Immigration Bureau on your behalf, making the process much easier.

First application, probably, fairly standard procedure now.

Just one story. I could list a few, but I understand where you're coming from. Whilst foreigners insist they are extending their visas 🤕 rather than read and understand they are applying for an extended permit of stay, then all hope is lost. It's the foreigner's responsibility to be familiar with the laws and Immigration orders of Thailand, otherwise you're going to be scammed by a corrupt official at some point in time. I've stood up to officials on several occasions, and the basis of the disagreements were due to break-downs in communication and limited knowledge of the official. Such as when US, UK, and AU citizens were permitted to provide evidence of income through monthly overseas transfers, instead of the now defunct Embassy Income letters, or the new TM30 regulations, which they initially claimed they were not aware of. I entered on a Non Imm O and submitting my very first application for a 1-year extension of stay, the IO perused my documents and announced I didn't meet the financial requirements, the 800K had to be in the bank for 3 months. Under the then rules it was 2 months for the first application, 3 months thereafter. When I disagreed, this IO flipped, threw my documents across the desk, ripping some in the process. When I refused to move until I saw the supervisor and pulled a copy of the orders out, he went ballistic. He stood up, I'm positive, swearing and cursing me in Thai, which only drew the attention of everyone in the office including his supervisor. At that point he asked me to pick up the documents that were strewn across the floor and I refused. He stomped around the desk, scooped up the documents on the floor and those still on the desk, and marched off to the supervisor's office. He came back with his tail between his legs two minutes later, but insisted some documents required recopying as they were damaged. I think he could tell what I thought from the look on my face, scooped up my passport and made new copies, then stamped the extension without another word. I came across the same IO a couple of years later, he clearly remembered me, and was as polite and respectful as you'd expect. It said by many, not to rub an IO up the wrong way, but in my experience they actually show more respect after you've challenged them. I've also witnessed many arguments with IO's and other foreigners. The best case I recall was when the foreigner obviously didn't have the correct documentation and let rip at this IO, his last sentence being "I know what I want to do, I just don't know what I'm doing or talking about" 🤣

There's only one site and one version for registering and filing a TM30 online.

I don't disagree with that, but tell me why if it's the responsibility of a landlord, as you claim, the Immigration Act states differently and the TM30 permits foreigners to register and submit a TM30 as a Housemaster or Occupier. All those options are available and in line with what the Immigration Acts states. If as a foreigner you reside in a private residence in any capacity whatsoever, you are both an occupier and Housemaster. The law makes that quite clear.

I'm in my 11th year in Thailand and my IO has always enforced section 38. CW went through a period of non enforcement for some time, even as I recall refusing TM30 offered by foreigners. Prior to Covid, there was a large criminal case and CW realised they didn't have a clue where many foreigners were actually staying. They started to then enforce section 38 and as I recall even fining foreigners that had previously tried to submit a TM30 and they rejected.

Were you there? They could have wrongly been fining him under section 37 (2), (3), or (4) which can carry a fine of up to 5,000 BHT plus 200 BHT per day until the law is complied with.

If it's total tosh and the responsibility of the owner/landlord, then why can you register as a foreigner, upload a foreigner's Yellow house book and pink Thai ID card, to register and be approved. How can you then further submit a new TM30 selecting the option of 'Housemaster' or 'Occupier' and it's accepted.

Yes there is, but you fail to acknowledge it. The Thai Immigration Act states it is the responsibility of the House Master, the owner, or the possessor of a residence, or in the case of a hotel, the manger to file the TM30. Section 4 of the Act defines the 'House Master' as any persons who is the chief possessor of a house, whether in the capacity of owner, tenant, or in any other capacity whatsoever. So if you live in that residence as a tenant, or in any other capacity whatsoever, you are just as responsible to file the TM30 as the owner, your landlord, or your wife. From which site did these quotes come from. The Immigration Act is the law, not some self written interpretation from an unknown source.

That's an extract from the Thai Immigration Act, hand typed, not copied and pasted as per the exact wording. The exact wording of section 38 of the Immigration Act reads; Section 38 : The house – master, the owner or the possessor of the residence, or the hotel manager where the alien, receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed, must notify the competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours, dwelling place or hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979) ENG.pdf On 5th June 2020, Immigration repealed section 38 of the Act, by issuing a new regulation amending it. TM30 reporting regulation (Eng).pdf Note 2.2 in particular, which details the change. 2. Notification of a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager, who takes in, as a resident, an alien permitted to temporary stay in the Kingdom must proceed as follows; 2.1 Notify a competent official at an Immigration office located in a locality in which the house, dwelling place or hotel is located within twenty four hours from the time an alien has taken residence. In case that house, dwelling place or hotel, where an alien has stayed, is located in Bangkok Metropolis locality, such notification shall be made to a competent official at Immigration Division 1 of Immigration Bureau. 2.2 After a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager already made a notification according to 2.1, then the alien goes to occasionally stay somewhere else and return to stay at the original place within the notified period of stay that has not yet ended, such householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager is not required to make a notification again. The alien mentioned in paragraph 1 shall include any alien receiving a multiply entry visa who departs the Kingdom and returns within the validity of visa and any alien permitted to re-enter into the Kingdom with a valid re-entry permit. In essence, if you are re-entering with a re-entry permit or a valid multiple entry visa and returning to your same registered address, then there is now no requirement to file a further TM30.

You can apply to extend your period of stay at least 30 days (45 days at most) prior to your current permission of stay expiring, up until the expiry date. On submitting, you will receive a 30 day 'under consideration' stamp. Some offices date this from the expiry date of your current permission of stay, whilst others date it from the date of application. Personally, I would submit the application on your return on 23 June, which still allows you 10 days to submit. You can prepare your documents prior to leaving, except for updating bank book and obtaining an updated KR2. Remember to obtain a re-entry permit for your 90-day Non 0.

Off-topic, but why would you need a TIN for the Juristic person of the housing estate.