Liquorice

It's 2 VE exempt entries via a border in a calendar year, so the effective period starts again in January of each year. Yes, it was the OP's question "Can I still do a 2nd one" that led me to re-read his first line and realise it had been misinterpreted.

If you feel 'marin' is stalking or trolling you, then you need to press on the 3 dots on his post, then press 'report', stating your reason', in order to bring it to a moderator's attention. Mods are volunteers, have a life of their own, and do not read every post.

I take it the OP is not a native English speaker, therefore his grammar is ambiguous and misinterpreted. I think what he meant to say was; "I came in via land border from Laos in mid January, extended, and then so have done one border run already and extended it".

You're allowed 2 VE border entries per calendar year. I'm interpreting the OP's post as he did a border run in mid-January this year, which allowed him a stay of 30 days, which he has extended for a further 30 days (which takes him to mid-March). He's now asking if he can do a 2nd border run this year, to which the answer is yes, he can do a 2nd border run.

Not with a 3-month bank statement, they didn't.

You're fortunate that Samut Prakhan aren't checking you met the financial criteria for issuing the previous year's extension (not a visa). But dipping out in Thailand.

No offence taken, but the reason for requesting to see a superior is that your in disagreement with one of his officers. You can agree to disagree politely, but his prerogative if he wants to get angry. It's not a case of proving them wrong, the IO's that you deal with at the front desks are often not well-informed. Over the years I've had my disagreements with IO's and sought an audience with the boss to resolve the issue. Indeed, if I hadn't stood my ground and challenged an IO when I first retired to Thailand and applied for my first extension of stay, I wouldn't be here to this day. Now that IO did get angry, became belligerent, ripped half of my copies and threw them across the desk onto the floor because I insisted of seeing his superior.

There is absolutely nothing that states in law you are required to carry a TM30 receipt notification in your passport. It's placed there as a convenience to Immigration so they don't waste time looking it up on the system. It may be common practice, but certainly not the law.

A 1-year extension of stay is not a visa, it's a permit. Hence, the stamp will state ''permitted to stay until'' (date). 7. Please note that the period of visa validity is different from the period of stay. Visa validity is the period during which a visa can be used to enter Thailand. In general, the validity of a visa is 3 months, but in some cases, visas may be issued to be valid for 6 months, 1 year or 3 years. The validity of a visa is granted with discretion by the Royal Thai Embassy or Royal Thai Consulate-General and is displayed on the visa sticker. 8. On the other hand, the period of stay is granted by an immigration officer upon arrival at the port of entry and in accordance with the type of visa. For example, the period of stay for a transit visa is not exceeding 30 days, for a tourist visa is not exceeding 60 days and for a non-immigrant visa is not exceeding 90 days from the arrival date. The period of stay granted by the immigration officer is displayed on the arrival stamp. Travellers who wish to stay longer than such period may apply for extension of stay at offices of the Immigration Bureau. https://www.mfa.go.th/en/page/general-information?menu=5e1ff6d057b01e00a6391dc5

AS @DrJack54 mentioned, take special note of clause 2.2. 2.2 After a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager already made a notification according to 2.1, then the alien goes to occasionally stay somewhere else and return to stay at the original place within the notified period of stay tahat has not yet ended, such householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager is not required to make a notification again. The alien mentioned in paragraph 1 shall include any alien receiving a multiply entry visa who departs the Kingdom and returns within the validity of visa and any alien permitted to re-enter into the Kingdom with a valid re-entry permit.

Show them their own issued regulation amending section 38 of the Immigration Act. TM30 reporting regulation (Eng).pdf TM30 reportingregulation(Thai).pdf

Sounds as though you entered VE (without a visa) and was granted a stay of 30 days, which can be extended for a further 30 days for tourism purposes. To apply for a 1-year extension of stay, you must firstly have Non Immigrant status, not Tourist. You could have applied for a Non Imm O visa from the Thai Embassy, London, prior to entry. For just such situations, Immigration offer a procedure to change your status to Non Immigrant without leaving the Country. The procedure is here: VE-TV to Non O Retirement.pdf Depending on which office you apply at and having at least 15-21 days permission of stay left, you could apply for the Non Imm this week. Alternatively, you could apply for a 30-day extension to grant you more time to apply for the Non Imm. Once your Non Imm is granted, you'll be granted a further stay of 90 days. Within the last 30 days of that 90 days, you may apply for the 1-year extension of stay based on retirement. The above information is subject to meeting the financial requirements.

Some basics. To apply for a 1-year extension of stay based on retirement, there are a few requirements to be met. Firstly, you must have a Non Immigrant status (Non Imm O), not tourist status, which you currently have. Secondly, you'll need to transfer the equivalent of 800K THB funds from overseas and deposit in a Thai bank account, your sole name, so you'll need to open a Thai Savings account. Immigration offer a procedure to change your status when you entered as a tourist, to Non Immigrant to save going out of Country to obtain a Non Imm O visa. The procedure is here; VE-TV to Non O Retirement.pdf Probably easier to enter from S Korea visa exempt, which will grant a stay of 30 days and can be extended for a further 30 days, then follow the above procedure to obtain Non O. When the Non O is granted you'll be granted a further stay of 90 days. Within the last 30 days of that 90 days, you may apply for the 1-year extension of stay based on retirement.

No, it's recurring thread due to foreign tenants unable to accept they are just as responsible as the owner or landlord to file the TM30. Section 38 and section 4 of the Immigration Act make it abundantly clear who can be deemed responsible to file a TM30. A lawyer has already brought the TM30 to question and as a result Immigration issued new regulations in 2020 easing and amending the requirements of section 38 of the Immigration Act when it was and wasn't necessary to file a TM30.

Your point being what exactly? You're quoting a personal opinion from a commercial website with the only factual reference to section 37 of the Immigration Act, which is now defunct due to new Immigration TM30 regulations published in 2020. That sort of pre-dates that article prior to 2020 and is out of date with the information. If as you surmise it's the landlord's responsibility, why does the TM30 online registration site allow foreigners to register as a tenant/possessor of the residence.

And what part of the responsibility also being the 'possessor, tenant, or in any other capacity whatsoever' did you fail to understand.

Immigration should try copy and paste. The actual wording from the Immigration states; Section 38 : The house – master , the owner or the possessor of the residence , or the hotel manager where the alien , receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed , must notify the competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours , dwelling place or hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. Section 4 of the Act, then defines the house master as: “ House Master ” means any persons who is the chief possessor of a house , whether in the capacity of owner , tenant , or in any other capacity whatsoever , in accordance with the law on people act. Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979) ENG.pdf

Can you provide evidence of that?

Yes, as we have two, for two properties. The N.S.4. J or Chanote is a certificate of true ownership for land and the only true ownership land title deed.

I'm sure you have a 1-year extension of permission of stay, your Non O visa expired, but is relevant. The marriage should be dejure and defacto, meaning you live and stay together. However, if the wife will appear for the extension application, don't inform them and hope they don't do a house visit, then you should be OK.

No, the house books do not prove ownership, only who's registered as living there. The Thais use the house book registration system as a means of running census of the population. Each property has a house book with the registered address, but a Thai can only be registered once in one house book. It's the Chanute (title deeds) that prove ownership. If as you say it's the Father that owns the house, then you need a copy of the house book where he is registered as living, a copy of the house book where you're residing and a copy of the Chanute for your property as proof the Father owns it. It’s not an uncommon scenario in rented accommodation, Immigration are just being picky in your case.

Nothing to do with 'our' rules. The documents you complete make it clear you're applying to extend your permission of stay, and it's a permit, not a visa. I appreciate some have a more selective reading comprehension than others and fail to understand the differences. Using the correct terminology is not being pedantic, it's being correct. Calling those out who use, or correct, the terminology is being pedantic.

Others claiming it can be done and in the past as I noticed perhaps, but since 2019/2020 Immigration have been insisting you need to have a Non Immigrant status from a Non O type visa. There is no written procedure to change from a Non B to Non O at Immigration, the options being to leave and obtain a Non Imm O, or re-enter VE then apply for the change to Non O at Immigration. Police orders though are ambiguous simply stating Non Imm visa, with no specific type mentioned, so it may have been at their discretion previously, but the goalposts appear to have moved again.

Thanks, so the problem only stems from moving last year and not filing a TM30 due to an issue with the House book. I'm sure the issue will be resolved tomorrow. Good luck.

The OP, due to a TM30 problem.