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Trang would have used a local Provincial address to issue the extension. You should file a new TM30 at CM. You can then file your 90-day reports at CM and request a residence certificate. CM have no reason to question the extension being issued in Trang as you're now filing a new TM30, however should they be inquisitive, merely state you stayed a period with a friend in Trang so renewed there, but have now returned to your CM address.

This is just one of the many issues that can arise from using an agent. @bamboozled can you clarify whether Trang just issued a 1-year extension of stay, or did it also include the initial Non Imm O as well. Were the Non O and 1 year extension issued at the same time.

You can stay in Thailand almost 17 months before applying for a new Non Imm O ME, with 3 x 60 day extensions and only 3 border runs. All extensions are 1,900 baht.

@Jingthing Going back to your original post. For all intent and purposes, you class only one of the Condos as your main residence. You then use that single address when dealing with Immigration. Depending on whether you want to first register, then file online, or whether to file in person, the documents requested may vary slightly and both have already been listed in replies. The Thai government use the Blue Tabien Baans as a running population census. New births must be registered in a Blue book. Deaths are removed from Blue books. All Thais must be registered in a Blue book and one book only. A Thai owning multiple private residences must decide which book he classes as his 'main residence' and he cannot be registered in others. My wife owns two properties, but she is only registered in one. Similarly, you may own two Condos, but you should only register using one of the addresses.

I think the Pattaya Mail has taken it out of context. There is no change in procedure. If you turn up at an Immigration office for a service, they will check a TM30 has been filed. If you do not possess a copy of the TM30 receipt stapled in your passport, then it can take the IO's a considerable amount of time to locate it on the system. Chonburi are simply stating if you haven't got a TM30 receipt in your passport, then file one to get a new receipt. No TM30 receipt, you're wasting their time, no service.

I'm married, living in my wife's privately owned residency. I am not the owner, but I am a possessor of the residence. I registered for the online TM30 as a 'foreigner' and 'possessor' of the residence, submitting my passport data page, yellow Tabien Baan and (pink) Thai ID card. Prior to 2020 I refilled 3 new TM30's when returning from overseas trips. I haven't been required to file a new TM30 since 2020.

You received a Blue book for the Condo, not you. All Condos (and other residential premises) have a Blue book detailing the address (on the first page). Subsequent pages list the 'Thai' people registered at that address. You are not named in the book because you're a foreigner. You therefore cannot register for the online TM30 using only your passport data page and Blue book.

Totally incorrect. Blue books belong to the residence and all Thais must be registered in a Blue book. Foreigners can apply for a Yellow book. Foreign Condo owners should receive a Blue Book, but they cannot be named in it. Only foreigners with PR status can be registered in a Blue book. If as a foreign Condo owner you wish to file a TM30, you may upload the Blue Book as proof of the address, but you'll also need to upload the Chanute as proof of you being the named owner.

You don't apply for a TM30, as you would an extension, you submit a TM30 to notify Immigration of the residence of an alien. If you're struggling to understand the online site, you can complete a TM30 by hand and submit it in person. TM30-Notification of alien residence.pdf

It won't backfire. I'm sure in the past your wife probably signed a TM30, not realising the receipt was supposed to be stapled in your passport as evidence of filing. I see this kind of thing happening all the time at my IO. The wife takes the front seat dealing with the IO, whilst the alien sits behind, just signing forms when requested. Just file a TM30 as an update to get a receipt.

The 2020 regulation hasn't been changed or updated. Chonburi has a reputation as a bit of a rogue office, and I suspect their record keeping requires an update to cover their previous incompetent practices.

The rules for when a TM30 should be filed changed in 2020. Prior to that, section 38 of the Immigration Act required the registration of all aliens address where they stayed when entering Thailand. Section 38 : The house – master , the owner or the possessor of the residence , or the hotel manager where the alien , receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed , must notify the competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours , dwelling place or hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. At that time, not all Immigration offices enforced the requirement. CW being one that comes to mind. Back in 2017/18 CW suddenly started enforcing the requirement. Many foreigners who had previously tried to submit a TM30, but were told it wasn't necessary, now found themselves being fined for not filing a TM30. Immigration also interpreted the law as such, that if a foreigner stayed elsewhere for short periods, a holiday in Thailand, or a trip to another Country, then they had to refile a new TM30 when returning to their already permanent registered address. The Immigration regulation published in 2020, I previously posted, changed that. If you're living at a residential address, a new TM30 is now only required if you move to a new permanent address. Just because you do not have a TM30 receipt stapled in the back of your passport does not automatically mean one has never been filed. Some expats lose the receipt and simply can't remember, in other instances a landlord/wife filed the TM30 unbeknown to the alien, or a kindly Immigration officer actually filed it on your behalf. When you apply for an Immigration service, such as an extension of stay, Immigration will not usually start to process that application without first checking they have a TM30 on file. The fact you've been extending for years, suggests at some point, somebody filed a TM30 on your behalf. Next time you visit your Immigration office, request the TM30 receipt. They'll probably just print a new one, have you sign and staple a new receipt in your passport.

Your wife is only required to attend for the application process. Once the application is approved, she is not required to attend when you return for the stamp in your Passport.

3. Financial evidence, e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings, proof of sponsorship from a third party -Your recent official UK/Ireland bank statement shows your name, address, and a minimum closing balance of £500 (for individual single entry) £1,000 (for family single entry), £5000 (for individual multiple entries, and £10,000 (for family multiple entries) , proof of earnings (payslips) or sponsorship letter from your sponsor with official ID and their Bank Statements. (Do not send the screenshot) https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/spouse-and-family-visa £3,000 is plenty.

Thailand simply doesn't cater for single men under 50, for long term stay, unless you are classed as wealthy, an expert, or married to a Thai national. To 'legally' work in Thailand, you require a work permit. For 'remote workers' such as yourself, unless you're classed as a professional and meet a certain criterion, then a WP isn't a possibility. These are your visa options for Thailand; https://washingtondc.thaiembassy.org/en/page/visa-fees-validity (Check out the LTR visas for remote workers) Alternatively, the Thailand Elite visa; https://thailand-elite.com/ Once you've examined these options and given you're under 50, but intending to marry, you'll understand why the advice is to try and secure a METV to enter Thailand. Get married before this visa expires, deposit 400K THB in a Thai bank account in your sole name and then apply for a 1-year extension of stay based on marriage. Keep quiet about your remote work.

The main two requisitions I find banks want these days are a personal reference and to confirm your address, either a Yellow Tabien Baan or a residence certificate issued by Immigration. The days of accepting a landlords TB and ID card now seem defunct.

Since when? Link!

Under section 38 of the Immigration Act, it is a requirement that all foreigners entering the Country must have their place of residence registered with their local Immigration office. Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979) ENG.pdf The form for such is known as a TM30. TM30-Notification of alien residence.pdf Previously, Immigration required a new TM30 to be filed if the foreigner; 1. Permanently moved to a new place of residence. 2. Temporarily lived elsewhere, either a temporary holiday elsewhere in Thailand, or a temporary visit overseas. On June 5th, 2020, Immigration issued a new regulation (effective 30th June 2020) amending section 38 of the Immigration Act. TM30 reporting regulation (Eng).pdf In essence, what this means is that having once filed a TM30, if the foreigner temporarily stays elsewhere, but returns to his registered place of residence within the validity of his current permission of stay, or a valid multiple entry visa, and returns to his already registered place of permanent residency, then there is no requirement to file a further TM30. Quote from the regulations. 2. Notification of a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager, who takes in, as a resident, an alien permitted to temporary stay in the Kingdom must proceed as follows; 2.1 Notify a competent official at an Immigration office located in a locality in which the house, dwelling place or hotel is located within twenty-four hours from the time an alien has taken residence. In case that house, dwelling place or hotel, where an alien has stayed, is located in Bangkok Metropolis locality, such notification shall be made to a competent official at Immigration Division 1 of Immigration Bureau. 2.2 After a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager already made a notification according to 2.1, then the alien goes to occasionally stay somewhere else and return to stay at the original place within the notified period of stay that has not yet ended, such householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager is not required to make a notification again. A new TM30 should now only be required if you move to a new permanent place of residence.

You can apply for the Non Imm O single entry and the same for your wife from London. https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/retirement-visa

Immigration state within 15 days of the due date, which is not the same as the often quoted before date. The easy way to remember is if your 90-day report was due on a Wednesday, then the first day you can submit online is the Wednesday two weeks beforehand.

It's 14 days before the due report date, until the due report date. If your 90 day was due on a Wednesday, then the first day you can submit online is the Wednesday two weeks beforehand. It's up to 6 days after the due date in person only.

It's not your bank that needs to verify income, it's the pension providers.

Well, firstly, you'd have to circumvent the US Privacy Act by giving written authorisation. https://www.justice.gov/opcl/overview-privacy-act-1974-2020-edition/disclosures-third-parties#:~:text=The general rule under the,written consent to the disclosure. The UK Embassy required documentary evidence of income before providing an Income letter for Immigration, same as the Norwegian Embassy is now requesting. However, they were not able to 'verify' those incomes with the relevant authorities due to Data Protection Laws, which is what Immigration requested. After the US, UK and Australian Embassies ceased the income letter service, Immigration issued a new order permitting proof of income via overseas transfers to a Thai bank account. However, within that order, they confirmed 'certified' Embassy Income letters would be accepted (not 'verified'). Had they stuck to their request for Embassies to 'verify' incomes, I daresay all Embassies would have ceased the service. Verifying incomes, although possible, would be time-consuming for all involved and was deemed unworkable. You can't just give any Tom, Dick or Harry from an Embassy authorisation and access to personal information, that isn't how it works.

You're including the funded portion of US pensions, I'm talking the basic government state pensions, which in the US is $1,000 - $1,200. https://www.forumdaily.com/en/kak-rabotaet-pensionnaya-sistema-v-ssha/#:~:text=“The state pension is on,utilities (electricity and heating). Finland has one of the best pensions in the world. The basic retirees state pension amount is 732 Euro per month. Even their higher earnings related pension of 1,512 Euro doesn't meet the 65K financial requirement for retirement extensions. https://www.etk.fi/en/finnish-pension-system/pension-security/national-pension/

Which is why Immigration requested Embassies 'verify' incomes. Whilst certain Embassies may be able to verify income from government state pensions, which alone would not meet the financial requirement for extensions based on retirement, the difference in additional income comes from private or company pension providers, which the Embassies cannot verify due to Data Protection policies.