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From the added facts posted by @Red Phoenix, it would appear Phuket forwarded an incomplete application (without a house visit to confirm the relationship was de jure and defacto). There is nothing the regional office could do in this case, their decision being based on the (incomplete) documentation submitted. The initial complaint has to be raised at Phuket and why they forwarded the application without proof of a de jure and defacto relationship. Sheer incompetence, couldn't give a toss attitude.

They therefore couldn't prove the relationship was de jure and defacto, but they should have made an appointment. If that is the reason for refusal, then the husband should raise a complaint. Has the Thai husband approached Immigration for more information. The local office will usually make a house visit before sending the application to the regional office for approval. In this case it would appear Phuket forwarded an incomplete application, hence it was refused. Extremely doubtful. Had that had any impact on the application, Phuket wouldn't have rejected the application.

There is no financial requirement for either the Thai husband or his foreign spouse. It would appear the only reason the application could be refused is on the basis of either not being able to prove a relationship, or prove the marriage isn't de jure and defacto.

If he's followed the law, he should have filed a TM30 concerning his place of residence in Bangkok. It then follows, he can therefore obtain a re-entry permit from CW.

You can't renew a visa at local Immigration offices. You can though apply to extend your period of stay based on retirement, which is a permit, not a visa.

All the requirements for a Tourist visa application are here; https://hochiminh.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/tourist-visa?page=5d80ab3315e39c2fe800a7a7&menu=5d80ab3315e39c2fe800a7a8 You can download the form and book an appointment from the same page.

The criteria on which you based your extension application for reason of marriage no longer exists from the day you officially divorce. In the case where your wife should decease, then the extension period is still honoured.

I quoted the information from Thailand's Ministry of Foreign Affairs. https://www.mfa.go.th/en/page/general-information?menu=5e1ff6d057b01e00a6391dc5 If you have an issue with 'their' wording, you should immediately contact the MFA to correct it, with evidence of your expert qualifications. Just as Immigration have used their discretion to allow Russians a 90-day period of stay, entering VE, or the Chinese a 30 day VE entry, the above statement by the MFA means they could change the validity of a visa type to enter Thailand at their discretion. That is not to state they would, but they could. Changing the validity of visa to enter Thailand would not change the period of stay granted by Immigration, unless by their discretion as exampled above.

The Non Imm O ME visa is valid to enter Thailand for 1 year. On each entry, you were permitted a 'period of stay' of 90 days. You could extend that 90-day period of stay by a further 60 days, subject to visiting Thai spouse/family. To extend your stay beyond that, you must meet the criteria as defined in Immigration Orders.

There are those who have applied for a multi entry type visa, but only issued a single entry type, at the 'discretion' of the Embassy.

@bamboozled I'll try and explain where your thinking is incorrect. The period of visa validity is different from the period of stay. Visa validity is the period during which a visa can be used to enter Thailand. The validity of a visa is granted with discretion by the Royal Thai Embassy or Royal Thai Consulate-General and is displayed on the visa sticker. The validity of a visa cannot be extended. A single entry visa is 'used' on entry. A multiple entry visa 'expires' on the 'enter before date'. Thailand's Ministry of Foreign Affairs (not Thai Immigration) are responsible for it's overseas Embassies and Consulates. On the other hand, the period of stay is granted by an immigration officer upon arrival at the port of entry and in accordance with the type of visa. The period of stay granted by the immigration officer is displayed on the arrival stamp. Travellers who wish to stay longer than such period may apply for extension of stay at offices of the Immigration Bureau. An extension is an application to extend your period of stay and are subject to meeting criterial as defined in (internal) Immigration orders. Extensions are permits (of stay), not a visa.

Trang would have used a local Provincial address to issue the extension. You should file a new TM30 at CM. You can then file your 90-day reports at CM and request a residence certificate. CM have no reason to question the extension being issued in Trang as you're now filing a new TM30, however should they be inquisitive, merely state you stayed a period with a friend in Trang so renewed there, but have now returned to your CM address.

This is just one of the many issues that can arise from using an agent. @bamboozled can you clarify whether Trang just issued a 1-year extension of stay, or did it also include the initial Non Imm O as well. Were the Non O and 1 year extension issued at the same time.

You can stay in Thailand almost 17 months before applying for a new Non Imm O ME, with 3 x 60 day extensions and only 3 border runs. All extensions are 1,900 baht.

@Jingthing Going back to your original post. For all intent and purposes, you class only one of the Condos as your main residence. You then use that single address when dealing with Immigration. Depending on whether you want to first register, then file online, or whether to file in person, the documents requested may vary slightly and both have already been listed in replies. The Thai government use the Blue Tabien Baans as a running population census. New births must be registered in a Blue book. Deaths are removed from Blue books. All Thais must be registered in a Blue book and one book only. A Thai owning multiple private residences must decide which book he classes as his 'main residence' and he cannot be registered in others. My wife owns two properties, but she is only registered in one. Similarly, you may own two Condos, but you should only register using one of the addresses.

I think the Pattaya Mail has taken it out of context. There is no change in procedure. If you turn up at an Immigration office for a service, they will check a TM30 has been filed. If you do not possess a copy of the TM30 receipt stapled in your passport, then it can take the IO's a considerable amount of time to locate it on the system. Chonburi are simply stating if you haven't got a TM30 receipt in your passport, then file one to get a new receipt. No TM30 receipt, you're wasting their time, no service.

I'm married, living in my wife's privately owned residency. I am not the owner, but I am a possessor of the residence. I registered for the online TM30 as a 'foreigner' and 'possessor' of the residence, submitting my passport data page, yellow Tabien Baan and (pink) Thai ID card. Prior to 2020 I refilled 3 new TM30's when returning from overseas trips. I haven't been required to file a new TM30 since 2020.

You received a Blue book for the Condo, not you. All Condos (and other residential premises) have a Blue book detailing the address (on the first page). Subsequent pages list the 'Thai' people registered at that address. You are not named in the book because you're a foreigner. You therefore cannot register for the online TM30 using only your passport data page and Blue book.

Totally incorrect. Blue books belong to the residence and all Thais must be registered in a Blue book. Foreigners can apply for a Yellow book. Foreign Condo owners should receive a Blue Book, but they cannot be named in it. Only foreigners with PR status can be registered in a Blue book. If as a foreign Condo owner you wish to file a TM30, you may upload the Blue Book as proof of the address, but you'll also need to upload the Chanute as proof of you being the named owner.

You don't apply for a TM30, as you would an extension, you submit a TM30 to notify Immigration of the residence of an alien. If you're struggling to understand the online site, you can complete a TM30 by hand and submit it in person. TM30-Notification of alien residence.pdf

It won't backfire. I'm sure in the past your wife probably signed a TM30, not realising the receipt was supposed to be stapled in your passport as evidence of filing. I see this kind of thing happening all the time at my IO. The wife takes the front seat dealing with the IO, whilst the alien sits behind, just signing forms when requested. Just file a TM30 as an update to get a receipt.

The 2020 regulation hasn't been changed or updated. Chonburi has a reputation as a bit of a rogue office, and I suspect their record keeping requires an update to cover their previous incompetent practices.

The rules for when a TM30 should be filed changed in 2020. Prior to that, section 38 of the Immigration Act required the registration of all aliens address where they stayed when entering Thailand. Section 38 : The house – master , the owner or the possessor of the residence , or the hotel manager where the alien , receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed , must notify the competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours , dwelling place or hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. At that time, not all Immigration offices enforced the requirement. CW being one that comes to mind. Back in 2017/18 CW suddenly started enforcing the requirement. Many foreigners who had previously tried to submit a TM30, but were told it wasn't necessary, now found themselves being fined for not filing a TM30. Immigration also interpreted the law as such, that if a foreigner stayed elsewhere for short periods, a holiday in Thailand, or a trip to another Country, then they had to refile a new TM30 when returning to their already permanent registered address. The Immigration regulation published in 2020, I previously posted, changed that. If you're living at a residential address, a new TM30 is now only required if you move to a new permanent address. Just because you do not have a TM30 receipt stapled in the back of your passport does not automatically mean one has never been filed. Some expats lose the receipt and simply can't remember, in other instances a landlord/wife filed the TM30 unbeknown to the alien, or a kindly Immigration officer actually filed it on your behalf. When you apply for an Immigration service, such as an extension of stay, Immigration will not usually start to process that application without first checking they have a TM30 on file. The fact you've been extending for years, suggests at some point, somebody filed a TM30 on your behalf. Next time you visit your Immigration office, request the TM30 receipt. They'll probably just print a new one, have you sign and staple a new receipt in your passport.

Your wife is only required to attend for the application process. Once the application is approved, she is not required to attend when you return for the stamp in your Passport.

3. Financial evidence, e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings, proof of sponsorship from a third party -Your recent official UK/Ireland bank statement shows your name, address, and a minimum closing balance of £500 (for individual single entry) £1,000 (for family single entry), £5000 (for individual multiple entries, and £10,000 (for family multiple entries) , proof of earnings (payslips) or sponsorship letter from your sponsor with official ID and their Bank Statements. (Do not send the screenshot) https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/spouse-and-family-visa £3,000 is plenty.