EmptyHead

Only around Valentine's Day.

Don't say anything to him - that will only give him a chance to be more careful - and he won't learn a valuable lesson.

Let is play out and see what else he says, if anything. Once ou have more evidence (not just 2 incidents), go to talk to the highest peron possible at the school and demand he is removed.

And yes, of course, try to find out if it is just your daughter or others too. Either way its not good for him. Either he is too friendly with all the teenage girls, or he is targeting one.

And I also agree with what others have said about this culture being preoccupied with the youthfulness of females (to put it mildy) and I could give numerous examples, but as it may be considered a bit too offtopic, I won't. This thread was not itnended to be about that - I think the OP hadn't considered it- but some members see it from this angle and they may be correct.

Navigate these waters carefully.

Yesterday morning, my GF cooked a dish for breakfast I am not too fond of and to make things worse she put lots of sugar in it. I decided I didn't want to eat it and went down to her mum's house to get some proper food.

Upon my arrival, I joked with her that we don't have any food in our house and she gave me some grub to take away.

Later, we all went to visit. And the conversation went like this:

Mum: You don't have any food in your house?

GF: Yes, I do!

Mum: Why didn't you cook him breakfast?

GF: I did, I cooked.......but he doesn't like it!

Mum: You have to cook him food that he likes!!!!!!!!

GF: Ergghhhhhhhh

Mum: You have to take care of him better!

GF: Oiiiiiyyy

Mum: Hahahaha

Me: Hahahaha

It was rather amusing. Maybe her mum is just old school, but I think she respects me a little more than a dog, but maybe less than a buffalo. Do you know how much those things are worth?

But aside from that. You are probably a grumpy auld fart. Standing there, all hostile, waiting to be respected. No wonder they felt uncomfortable.

Try to ditch the hurt foreigner syndrome and you might see things a little different. Sure, there is racial discrimination here - but it ain't as bad as you think.

22. Backpacker.

The Chilean one I am drinking is also Thai

Amazing Thailand.

Suppose that you're happily living in Thailand, but that some serious event forces you to return to live back in your home country:

- Illness, but not enough to disable you

- Business gone bust in Thailand, money run out

- Thai wife has shacked up with her 'brother'

I wouldn't leave Thailand or return to my homeland for any of those reasons. The 3rd one would probably be a blessing. haha

Though sometimes I do questions why I am still here, but those 3 reason you gave are just silly.

My bad Brewburger. Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread.

That's a relief though.

Don't worry. You are 22 and she is 18. The comments about prostitution, ripoffs and all that nasty stuff do not apply to you. Your relationship is no different that what any other young person can or will experience. In the west, young people go to bars to hookup and have quickies. The situation you experienced isn't that much different. The girl probably is happy she has met someone "normal" who is different than the usual loser she comes across. If you have the following characteristics, you most likely are appealing to the typical 18 year old girl's lust;

- The hair is on your head and not your back or arse;

- You can maintain a very firm erection without need of viagra or other drugs, and can copulate multiple times;

- You do not snore

- You have some fashion sense and do not look like those elderly twits with their fat guts in too tight shirts and varicose vein revealing capri pants.

- Your idea of fun is something more than getting drunk and smoking too many cigarettes

- If you go to a dance club, you can actually dance

- When you are together, it looks normal and not like some girl taking a customer out for a quickie or a nurse with her patient

- You have a decent body and your fat belly does not hide your feet or penis

- You do not need to trim your nose or ear hair

- You do not have ill fitting dentures or rotten teeth and bad breath

- You don't complain about everything, especially how dumb Thais are, or that the food is too spicey or your ex wife, or how your kids hate you, and you don't ridicule everyone you see such as ladyboys, homos, asians, Thai customs etc.

- If you go to the beach or a pool, people will look at you because you are cute and not because you are a fat old man in a thong

- If you have a healthy relationship with your parents/family and actually call them or send them emails.

- You know how to use a smart phone, have a vine or twitter/or snap chat or FB account

Relax. Have fun. Use a condom. Keep in touch with your family. Play safe,be polite and respectful. Use common sense. Avoid druggies, drinking and driving. Smile a lot. Stay calm and you will be fine.

Yeah, but I would be surprise if she doesn't try to relieve him of as much money has possible anyway. And what's to stop her having other sponsors? She can't respect him because he uses whores (regardless of his age).

She will get as much per month from him as she can. Maybe she'll settle for 6k and have sex with him once in a while. She'll get older guys to sponsor her for 10k a month and have sex with them more and so and and so on. She will still work in the bar and make decent money while she is younger than the rest.

they mean she is below the age of consent, though i am uncertain they are correct.

From reading a previous thread on this, I though the age of consent was as follows:

• 18 with just the girl's consent.
• 15 with marriage or parents consent.
• 13 with legal agreement (i.e. court order).

I have just leaned today that you must be 20 to be a prostitute. I actually thought it was 18, but you learn something new everyday, I suppose. Now, I realize why I have never met an 18 year old massage worker - they all just say they are 20 . Actually quite scary.

Great comments so far.

Surprised so may are cats people, don't know I am surprised though.

Dogs. Mans best friend. Apparently, the only animal to form an alliance with man.

Cats. Sacred to the ancient Egyptians and used to be thought of as mythological creatures. Their intelligence difficult to measure.

It fascinates me. When it comes to pets some people can't stand dog and others cats. It is often thought that if you like cats then you must have a particular personality type yourself, and so with dog people.

I like both, but I have to admit, if I had to choose, I would go for cats. My missus hates cats, but loves (certain) dogs. Not dogs in general, but dogs known to us with interesting personalities and qualities.

Thais, I find mostly to be dog people. Would you agree? Though we do have the famous Siamese cat, so perhaps cats were popular at sometime.

Anyway, I have my suspicion that the Thaivisa members will be dog people, mostly.

This may help. I am still in weekly contact (skype) with a really decent Brit originating from Birmingham. Living in Jomtien for years. His view on the matter.

- " If I could spend my retirement years in Birmingham, I would be living a modest live. While living in Thailand I can live "a good live".

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Given that, the average Farang can live with an occasional Thailand-Blues. I am sure.

Cheers.

And therein lies the secret. But if your " good life" doesn't come up to expectations that is the problem for many.

Most guys who live in nakon nowhere didn't even know it existed before they met the "one" , so it's hard to justify a happy existence based on somewhere you didn't know for 60 years of your life. They came here with other ideals and ended up with something completely different..where did the " good life"..go..

Those in pattaya knew exactly what they wanted and found it, they in my opinion have better lives accordingly..

There is no logic in your argument whatsoever.

If it wasn't nearing my bedtime, I would tell you, in detail, all that is wrong with what you just said. There are probably about 3 fallacies.

Take a look here https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ to see where your argument falls apart.

It fascinates me how these people who've had enough of the place continue to come back here and tell us why they left.

Yeah, they miss it really, that's why they still hang out on our forum.

And to the people who say things like, "Pattaya isn't the real Thailand etc etc." I'm sorry, but it is. It is all part and parcel of the real Thailand. Thais scam each other nationwide. They scam farang nationwide. There are hookers nationwide. There are drugs nationwide. And there is McDonalds and KFC nationwide

There are also really nice people all over the country. There are wonderful things and awful things...everywhere....IT IS ALL THE REAL THAILAND. K? k.

Anyway, to answer the OP's question: yes it is normal, it's called culture shock. See below.

Beer Chang Classic

McDonalds

Massage

in all honesty...

Laos will never be a major destination for western ex pats for retiring unless they desire a laid back, quiet, low key life style

lets be honest without judgement here, many falangs don't want to retire in Laos because the nightlife/woman lifestyle just isn't as prevalent there....

you know what I say...

Thank the lord.

I have been bitten by a virus, its called LPDR.

Don't kid yourself on. Give it a few years.

What's wrong with dark girls? And what's your idea of dark?




Well, I don't think they are worth 5 times the daily minimum wage for less than an hour of work.

You'll find prostitutes the world over will earn substantially more than minimum wage. It's hardly a pleasant job or one with long term earning potential.

"Hardly a pleasant job"...well that's debatable and depends on perspective.

"hardly.......one with long-term earning potential"....i wish you would tell that to them! I ain't noticed any price difference as they get older.

The problem in laos is that anything that you can get is a dark girl... It seems that the white skin girls do not mess with foreigners yet !

But yes, it's the only place around that is worth living if you want to retire from Thailand !

What's wrong with dark girls? And what's your idea of dark?

Lao girls rules !! And of course the fact that there is NO shit piles laying around....

Of course I would also agree with above mentioned beer Lao..

The girls are just a bit expensive at 3000 baht for short time......NOT that this is my experience but just observing the scene......

How much is that in local 'income'?

A million times the minimum wage?

Great!

So you think they should only ask for, or be paid, minimum wage?

Well, I don't think they are worth 5 times the daily minimum wage for less than an hour of work.

Things I like:

1. The beer (much better than Thai beer)
2. The coffee (slightly better than Thai coffee)
3. The bread (there is no such thing as Thai bread)
4. The nature is probably less spoiled than in Thailand.
5. Cheap prices (unlike Thailand)

I haven't spent too much time there so can't mention much more I like than that.

Things I dislike:

1. I have been scammed there more than any other place in Asia ...even by my own hotel and even the immigration).
2. The lack of massage. And I find the massage parlors they do have very uncomfortable, since there are usually several underage girls working there. Something which you don't notice in Thailand in most massage parlors all year round.
3. Being offered opium in the street (often).
4. Very little to do..gets a bit boring
5. And I'm sorry, but I never noticed any exceptional friendliness. More in Thailand, Vietnam or Indonesia from my experience.

Sorry if my balanced post upsets anyone.

Any further and we will have to get a Lao visa to do our 90 day reports.

Actually, we can do them from the comfort of home online.

I was at Phiboon recently for mine. The nice lady who sits at the back left took me and my colleague to her computer and walked us through step by step how to do it online.

My wife's daughter, my step daughter ( age 22) for a joke started giving me a massage. Fortunately my wife was in the room.

"For hells sake stop it, you are turning me on!".

Wife laughed.

"Fortunately my wife was in the room."

What would've happened had she not been?

Nothing, it was a joke!

Would I engage sexually with my daughter, hell no!

Most people wouldn't even joke about it.

But he was talking about his step daughter.

...it?

Ok, but shouldn't one be able to perceive how their words will potentially hurt someone's feelings?

That depends on the culture.

Or lack of it.

Is there such a thing?

Ok, but shouldn't one be able to perceive how their words will potentially hurt someone's feelings?

That depends on the culture.

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Not in any order of preference as they're all scrummy :

Spanish Food and Catalan cuisine

Traditional Belgian

Traditional German

Real Fish and Chip Shop / Pie and Mash Shop

Greek cuisine

Lebanese Cuisine

New York Deli style

Just scoffed a good Isaan meal tonight. The choice of Thai food is phenomenal, still trying new things after 25 years. Very good authentic Italian just down the road, and the Chockchai steaks are wonderful. Some good Japanese here, my preference Kasa. Spoiled for choice really!

Off to Japan next week so plenty new things to try.

OK, I'm going to challenge this out of curiosity.

This thread is only about the Pattaya area ... we have some things OK, and some things either not at all or possibly not good enough based on opinion.

Some of them I understand.

But traditional German? Aren't there something like 100 German restaurants in town ... not even one does it for you?

Some Belgian places too ... none are OK?

Fish and chips? So many. None works for you?

Lebanese ... there's that place on 3rd road ... not good enough?

New York Deli ... Pastrami on Rye in Jomtien not good enough?

Someone has taken the time to reply to your thread.

Go and eat a cheezebite, JT

Start with observing your breath, young grasshopper.

Go forth www.dhamma.org

There is no better place to look than inside yourself, this is where the Dhamma is.

I'd still appreciate her number. Personal message will do nicely.