EmptyHead

Get a blood test now and then again a few months later. During these few months refrain from having any kinds of intimacy with peeps. Fingers crossed for you.

There's no need to cross fingers. It isn't like he knows she has HIV for a fact, even then the risk to him would be between 1 in 1000 and 1 in 2000.

If he gets a NAAT at 11 days there is really little need for another test, except for further peace of mind, maybe. There is nobody who has ever had a false negative NAAT after 10 days (or at least it was never known or recorded).

As far as intimacy goes, anything other than unprotected penetrative sex (i.e vaginal or anal) is safe. Oral sex is no longer considered a real risk. Though, it remains a theoretical risk, just like kissing and getting semen in your eye, or saliva on an open wound.

There is no need to contribute to the irrational HIV fear that many people have, nor further the stigma. Let us rely on reason, rather than emotion.

I hope I die in such a way. Seriously. I am not joking.

Decent age

Died quickly.

Young woman pleasuring me as I go.

May he Rest In Peace

There is a lot of good information in the above answers. I really like Chiang Mai and the looking ladies seem to gravitate here. Bangkok yuck. I came here at age 70 sooo you have a good head start age wise. You should live here to meet the best ladies. I have found that when you mention your living some where else they chill at the idea. They want you 24/7/365 in Thailand although some working guys have a good relationship. A good relationship is built on trust. Some will say they love you and please send money. I finally found a nice young lady on Thai Love Links. She checked off all the boxes that I had there were only 3. 1. Speak good English, 2. not working living with me, and 3. no children been there done that. She was a bit young but has worked out beautifully. At your age I would skip my second step about working as when I pass on she will have a hard time getting back into the swing of things so to speak unless she finds a nice guy like me fast. She will be left some money but I am not a millionaire. If you ask for the same 3 things you are automatically eliminate 90% of the ladies here so be patient and wait. Before she moved in we came to a mutual agreement and we both stick to it and have for the last 40 months. I find this works best and stops future problems. She is a great gal and I am resigned to the fact that she must move on after I push up daisies. The only thing that bothers me is that she is such a sweet gentle person trusting and she in the future might suffer at the hands of some foreign b**t**d and there are lots out there. Her mother often asks her why she does not find someone younger and her answer is "with this man I know he will not tire of me and kick me out after 3 months" She did have an earlier relationship with a young Don Juan and this did take a toll on her when she found out his "true colors" Good Luck on your search. You were lucky to get some good advice above. You should hit the ground running but hang onto your wallet.

Are you sure there wasn't a 4th box? As young as possible, lol?

Suppose that you're happily living in Thailand, but that some serious event forces you to return to live back in your home country:

- Illness, but not enough to disable you

- Business gone bust in Thailand, money run out

- Thai wife has shacked up with her 'brother'

I wouldn't leave Thailand or return to my homeland for any of those reasons. The 3rd one would probably be a blessing. haha

Though sometimes I do questions why I am still here, but those 3 reason you gave are just silly.

Do Thai people that use prostitutes employ coy euphemisms to avoid calling them what they are?

They probably just say, "No no no no no no no" with a big smile on their faces.

I have an issue with sexpats.

I could not care one iota what they do or how many they do it with, but more importantly where and when.

My issue is after 15 years the "you handsome guy" "hey you" "want a massage" are as old, worn and haggard as the 18 year old prostitutes yelling it at you in the middle of the day out shopping, chilling with your thai family or whatever on the main street of a major city in Isaan nowhere. The issue with the sexpat is there he is sitting on his fat arse tipping back booze in the middle of the day getting offended and thinking he has the right to intervene when you in reply tell the prostitute to go "f... a dog"...and yet he can not get it through his booze laden, thai virgin (sic) prostitute loving lower and only brain that in the main street of the western city where he comes from people do not have to tolerate such garbage. And yes when in Thailand do like the thai's but only thing is in Thailand prostitution between thais is not sanctioned on the main street in the middle of the day so hence for sexpats when a handsome looking dashing westerner is telling a thai prostitute to go "f... a dog" shut your mouth and butt out...but on second thoughts then again as to what references as a dog in that retort might give you the right to be offended.

Are you OK? You wrote, "Not main street????" Have you ever been to Thailand? BTW the dog thing is what the ladies say to the cheap charlies.

I am always in awe when I see a brothel of such size. I am also amazed that they even built it.

And we think Nana Plaza is impressive. lol.

Well, I found my missus in a bar and she's pretty decent as a wife and mother. She wasn't a hooker, by the way. Her family are great to live near too.

My EX was a qualified school teacher and she (and her family) tried to steal every penny they could from me. She was also a proper harlot. She had many ATM's (westerners) going at the same time and she did a fair job spreading the STDs around (I should know )

Just some food for thought.

P.S. I know of a guy who is going through the same thing right now with his "school teacher girlfirend."

The black guy sounds like he was just plain happy to be there and feeling friendly.

OP needs to chill out

Everyone's different

The black guy sounds like he was just plain happy to be there and feeling friendly.

And if that had been your mrs he had spoken to like that what would have been your reaction?

Thankfully my mrs speaks excellent English, the last one that tried it on with her got a mouthful of expletives.

Check out some of these farang losers trying to hit on office ladies on the BTS.

Check out the losers trying to pick up normal Thai girls on their way home from work, the bus stop at Suk soi 5 is an entertaining place for people watching.

What's wrong with hitting on office ladies and normal girls? We ain't all here for the whores, you know.

Your Mrs.? Why wouldn't she be flattered? And if you weren't there? LOL

Cheesebite time.

I am 67yo - wife is 36yo. We have been together for 11 years. She has no Chinese blood.

Good for you.

I doubt it about the Chinese blood thing. If there even were such a thing. Or maybe that proves your point.

Why has she married you?

You don't think it might have something to do with the fact that having to travel halfway round the world to get laid is a little embarrassing?

No, not getting laid seems pretty common in the west, that's why there is a porn addiction epidemic.

But using hookers is considered perverted and therefore embarrassing and shameful.

People aint that comfortable with telling family, friends or strangers that they migrated to Thailand only to become a sexpat. That has to do with the kind of societies most western expats come frome.

I met a Thai woman who was a Chula graduate and Chartered Accountant. She then worked exclusively for her family's private foundation in Thailand. She asked what I did in Thailand. I said that I came initially to work for a Thai NGO Under Royal Patronage and that I now operated out of an NGO I set up based in USA.

She said 'That is very unusual.' I said 'Why -- do you think all western men come to Thailand to chase young Thai women and drink beer?'

She paused for a moment and said: Yes.

I would have said, " Yes, just like all the Thai guys.'

1 minut with 2 chinese having sex ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Ever heard of xham .... if thats your thing

I googled it. Did not match anything. Please rewrite in in a way Google can understand.

1 minute. Couldn't have been his missus. Lucky chap.

Quite often they don't even consider it lying, just telling you what you want to hear or avoiding bringing bad news at the time.

Yup, there us no such thing as lying, nor racism.

I didn't want to start a new thread for the question I'm about to ask (sorry for hijacking OP).....

. but can any one tell me where to get tested for chlamydia and gonorrhea with fast results?

I am aware of the Thai Red Cross Anonymous Clinic, but I read that there turn around time for chlamydia and gonorrhea screening is roughly 3 weeks?

Is there any where I can go that has a quicker turn around time?..

cheers.

These tests are usually not necessary (if you are male). Penile infections rarely go unnoticed, unlike vaginal or oral infections.

If 10 days have passed without any sign of discharge you can be pretty sure you don't have Gonorrhea and around 14 days for Chlamydia.

You can go to the Red Cross and ask them about it. They will most probably tell you, "These tests are expensive and if you don't have discharge, no problem"

If you do have discharge they would usually do a gram stain test (to find out if it even an STD) and then (if it is) treat you for both, since the gram stain can't differentiate between the two.

Some great advice here! Thanks

The GMMZ box sounds like a good idea!

I'll check how much PSI's packages cost and then probably choose between that and the GMMZ box.

According to speedtest.net, my download speed is around 0.14...pretty bad, haha. I will have to look into better internet too.

Thank again guys!

Thanks man, I'll check that out.

Looks like you get a decent amount of western channels for that price, though.

Thanks, but that's probably not possible with my internet problem, right?

Hi everyone,

So, bored village member here who wouldn't mind some decent TV. I think the missus and daughter could do with some choices which are less mind-rotting than the dramas they are currently watching. If you have watched then you probably know what I mean.

So, I am looking for foreign TV channels. It doesn't have to be too extensive, you know, some wildlife channels, movie channels, and bit of world news. That would probably do.

At the moment, we have a PSI dish. It just gives us a load of Thai channels. I have tried looking on their website for other options, but its all in Thai. I had a look on the TrueVisions site, it seems alright, but would that mean doing away with the PSI dish (wasted 4k baht, or so) and paying for a True one?

So anyway, I would like to hear what you guys do for TV.

What are options here for buying a "freeview box"? You know a one off payment sort of thing where you get X amount of channels?

Also, what are you options for pay per month packages?

As you can probably tell, I am totally clueless, lol.

We can't get proper internet in the village, so I am stuck using truemoveH 3G aircard, which sucks so I think streaming sites are out of the question, right?

Anyway, sorry for the dumb question, I am a bit of a technophobe, but I hoe to hear what you guys are doing for TV and if you are pleased with it or not.

Thanks in advance chaps

OK, so what Sheryl said, basically.

Get a NAAT test. It is considered, by experts on HIV from around the world, virtually 100% accurate and reliable at 11 days from your exposure.

You can get one in Bangkok at the Thai Red Cross Anonymous Clinic for a couple of hundred baht, or at the Silom Community Clinic for free. The results take 3 days and 10 days at each of these clinics, respectively (the last time I checked). They will contact you by phone if you are positive with the NAAT test.

The antibody results are given right away, though those (on their own) are virtually meaningless at 11 days.

Just fly there and turn up, that's it.

Also, it is highly unlikely that you got HIV from just one exposure of vaginal sex. If she was positive, the odds (as calculate by experts) are somewhere between 1 in a 1000 and 1 in 2000. If she wasn't positive, the risk is zero obviously.

Then you have to factor in the chances of her having it in the first place. It is thought that female sex workers in Thailand have between a less than 1% - 5% HIV positive prevalence, probably less that 1% in most places.

So, even at 5% prevalence and even if it were 1 in 1000 risk per exposure to the virus, that's a total risk of 1 in 20,000 (that she had the virus and you got it from one exposure of vaginal sex). This is the worst case scenario for you. But 1 in 20,000 odds are not too bad.

The best case odds (less than 1% prevalence among female sex workers in Thailand and the 1 in 2000 chances of you getting it from a single exposure of vaginal sex) are greater than 1 in 200,000.

So, basically, your chances of getting infected from the exposure you describe are between "1 in 20,000" and "1 in 200,000".

So, while HIV is a serious thing, I suggest you don't worry yourself too much about the real risks if this exposure and for peace of mind sake fly to BKK and get the NAAT test on day 11 after your encounter. This will give you virtually 100% proof (well, technically greater than 99.99% proof).

If you don't want to pay a fortune, go to one of the clinics I mentioned.

According to Dr Hunter Handsfield MD, who is one of the world's leading experts on HIV transmission and won an award for his work in the field, "The chances of getting HIV from a single exposure of vaginal sex are less than the chances of getting killed by lightening in your entire lifetime or getting killed in a road accident this week (if you are in the US)."

The above statistics I gave on the prevalence of HIV among Thai female sex workers came from him as well as chances of getting it from a single exposure of vaginal sex, though that data is pretty well known around the world. Even if you ask the Thai Red Cross Anonymous Clinic, they give the exact same data.

The Thai Red Cross Clinic is also a HIV-NAAT Research Center and is affiliated with western HIV research centers and they are very up to date and cutting edge. As well as the Silom Community Clinic which is also a research center funded by an organization in the USA and equally cutting edge. You can trust them both.

So, I suggest you relax and just go for a test for peace of mind purposes.

If you don't want to travel to BKK, then any standard antibody test will do, after 6 weeks your results are above 99% reliable, but you have to wait 12 weeks for 100% with the antibody alone test.

My bad Brewburger. Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread.

That's a relief though.

Don't worry. You are 22 and she is 18. The comments about prostitution, ripoffs and all that nasty stuff do not apply to you. Your relationship is no different that what any other young person can or will experience. In the west, young people go to bars to hookup and have quickies. The situation you experienced isn't that much different. The girl probably is happy she has met someone "normal" who is different than the usual loser she comes across. If you have the following characteristics, you most likely are appealing to the typical 18 year old girl's lust;

- The hair is on your head and not your back or arse;

- You can maintain a very firm erection without need of viagra or other drugs, and can copulate multiple times;

- You do not snore

- You have some fashion sense and do not look like those elderly twits with their fat guts in too tight shirts and varicose vein revealing capri pants.

- Your idea of fun is something more than getting drunk and smoking too many cigarettes

- If you go to a dance club, you can actually dance

- When you are together, it looks normal and not like some girl taking a customer out for a quickie or a nurse with her patient

- You have a decent body and your fat belly does not hide your feet or penis

- You do not need to trim your nose or ear hair

- You do not have ill fitting dentures or rotten teeth and bad breath

- You don't complain about everything, especially how dumb Thais are, or that the food is too spicey or your ex wife, or how your kids hate you, and you don't ridicule everyone you see such as ladyboys, homos, asians, Thai customs etc.

- If you go to the beach or a pool, people will look at you because you are cute and not because you are a fat old man in a thong

- If you have a healthy relationship with your parents/family and actually call them or send them emails.

- You know how to use a smart phone, have a vine or twitter/or snap chat or FB account

Relax. Have fun. Use a condom. Keep in touch with your family. Play safe,be polite and respectful. Use common sense. Avoid druggies, drinking and driving. Smile a lot. Stay calm and you will be fine.

Yeah, but I would be surprise if she doesn't try to relieve him of as much money has possible anyway. And what's to stop her having other sponsors? She can't respect him because he uses whores (regardless of his age).

She will get as much per month from him as she can. Maybe she'll settle for 6k and have sex with him once in a while. She'll get older guys to sponsor her for 10k a month and have sex with them more and so and and so on. She will still work in the bar and make decent money while she is younger than the rest.

they mean she is below the age of consent, though i am uncertain they are correct.

From reading a previous thread on this, I though the age of consent was as follows:

• 18 with just the girl's consent.
• 15 with marriage or parents consent.
• 13 with legal agreement (i.e. court order).

I have just leaned today that you must be 20 to be a prostitute. I actually thought it was 18, but you learn something new everyday, I suppose. Now, I realize why I have never met an 18 year old massage worker - they all just say they are 20 . Actually quite scary.

"A British Engineer was involved in a necklace snatch on Thursday Night and saw his new 60,000 Baht Gold Necklace stolen from him, only hours after it was given to him as a present from his Girlfriend."

- I'm sorry, just you just couldn't write this stuff. Bloody hilarious.

And who wants a gold necklace that thick anyway?

Chav

So has anyone had what they believe to be past life regression experiences?

Great comments so far.

Surprised so may are cats people, don't know I am surprised though.

Mine has just neglected to make dinner tonight and instead offered me a sandwich.

I don't know what to do.

And I'm off the beer too.

Sad life I have.

And to think of the fair maidens I turned down for her.

Dogs. Mans best friend. Apparently, the only animal to form an alliance with man.

Cats. Sacred to the ancient Egyptians and used to be thought of as mythological creatures. Their intelligence difficult to measure.

It fascinates me. When it comes to pets some people can't stand dog and others cats. It is often thought that if you like cats then you must have a particular personality type yourself, and so with dog people.

I like both, but I have to admit, if I had to choose, I would go for cats. My missus hates cats, but loves (certain) dogs. Not dogs in general, but dogs known to us with interesting personalities and qualities.

Thais, I find mostly to be dog people. Would you agree? Though we do have the famous Siamese cat, so perhaps cats were popular at sometime.

Anyway, I have my suspicion that the Thaivisa members will be dog people, mostly.

Sounds like a lot of guys here are jealous of guys who have young girlfriends. When someone starts talking about age-gap its cos they are jealous. Though, I do find it disgusting when these old dudes brag about it, and cringe-worthy when he thinks she is with him for anything other than his money.

Nevertheless, can't blame these guys. They would be on a death-sentence back West without any lovin' whatsoever. I would probably do the same.

Ok, OP: I will give you a comprehensive list of things my GF does for me (despite how weird it is) if you tell us how much you give to her, and her family, and her friends. That doesn't just mean cash, but shopping sprees too.