Spock

Wallop sounds like bit of bubble

Nothing worse than a squealer who is all too keen to make sure he has a ready made friendship network in jail. Though in Wallop's case, those he lagged on may be more inclined to wallop Wallop than welcome his familiar face in their cell.

Time for the ironfist!!

No negotiations with terrorists!!

What a totally ignorant statement from a totally ignorant poster.

You should read up on the causes of this conflict and you may change your mind about exactly who are the terrorists.

Then please inform this totally ignorant poster, how is the murder of a female 20 year young student justifiable for any cause??

Google is your friend. Find out when the southern provinces joined Thailand and how it happened. That will give you the background.

Next, Google Tak Bai, that's about how 84 protesters that were already subdued lost their lives at the hands of the army.

The men were loaded into the rear of trucks stifling with oppressive heat and transported 5 hours stacked like produce in rows. The military did nothing wrong according to Thaksin despite 78 young men dying en route. This and the killing of 2500 small time drug users and assorted others by the 'licence to kill' anti drug squad let loose by Thaksin are the biggest black marks on his period in politics. Free medical treatment for the masses was a positive and welcome contribution to the Thai populace, but he blotted his copybook with his heavy handed approach to drugs and the southern problem.

They can outlaw the eating of dogs but they will never stop it. The question ought to be; why the hell should they? Here they have a golden opportunity to rid the country of this verminous infestation of soi dogs, and all we get is the bleeding heart brigade screaming how inhuman it is.

While I would have no qualms about the wretched creatures being burned alive by the truck load, I realize that the actual treatment may be an issue for some, and being part of a regulated meat trade means they would be afforded the same protection as other animals enroute to the plate.

The meat is murder brigade should remember that humans by nature are omnivores and therefore vegetarianism is unnatural, which, coincidentally, so are dogs.

Regards G

Your savagery and inhumanity is on display for all to see. By the way, the soi dogs are almost certainly not the dogs sourced for the meat trade. As other posters have made abundantly clear, Thai people would not endorse collection of these dogs to supply the lovers of canine flesh. Such dogs would also be too scrawny for human consumption.

I only eat Thai. As long as the missus isn't around.

Or she's involved at the same time

Lighten up guys....there are meat eaters and non meat eaters in the world. I doubt the twain will ever agree.

Some of us have animals we regard as pets and cannot fathom how some people could eat them. Others can eat the same animal without a skerrick of conscience. C'est la vie.

Anyone want a feed of grasshopper?

Sigh. How many more posters are going to miss the point of this thread? Do you not have eyes and a brain? Have a look at the two photos in the other dog thread of the poor creatures shoved into a wire cage like dirty clothes crammed into a basket. Then come back and tell us again that it's about free choice and cultural heritage.

Getting confused with eating snakes.

When I was in Vietnam and we eat snake, they hit the cobra with bamboo sticks because they believe if the adrenalin is flowing then there is more taste in the meat when the snake is slaughtered

And it is the same with dogs and cats. They are tortured and beaten to sweeten the flavour. It's called a fact, my friend, not a confusion.

Like I said, it is called a fact by morons and sadists. Which one are you? BTW, I'm not your 'friend'. Are you speaking from personal experience (I am) or are you just repeating ignorance. Just because some people believe unscientific things doesn't make it true. It is true that people 'believe' that torture 'sweetens' the meat but it is not true that it actually 'sweetens' them meat. I typed that last part slowly so you would understand this time.

I don't believe for one moment that beating an animal sweetens the meat. My issue with you was that you seemed to be suggesting that the beating of animals by Chinese, Vietnamese etc is confined to snakes. Perhaps I should have made myself clearer. The fact I was referring to is that dogs and cats are beaten, not that beating sweetens the flavour.

Many years ago, I got stuck behind one of these dog trucks on my motorcycle. The smell, the sight of it, it was absolutely stomach churning. The image of it stayed in my mind for weeks afterwards - and as an old livestock farmer I'm not exactly squeamish. Hell, I've castrated lambs with a pocket knife and my teeth before now.

But that truck was a different dimension. Hellish is the only adjective to describe it.

Just wait for the 'how dare we tell them what to eat', 'how dare we impose our values on them', 'I wish my soi dogs were riding on the back of that truck' comments from the less civilized members of this forum.

I can't help thinking that the UK noticeably not the Govt are really sticking it to Thailand at the moment. Be it Social Media, daily newspapers, TV stars etc,,,, Given what's happened and is happening on that crappy little despicable island it's entirely understandable.

At least the inhabitants of that unfortunate island don't cram helpless animals into metal cages so that they break bones and die of suffocation en route to a ritual slaughter. Societies are best judged by their treatment of the less fortunate, be they animals or humans.

If they do away with the soi-dog meat trafficking...they will need to find another way to rid Thailand of the thousands of unclaimed mutts roaming the sois or be overrun with the unruly mutts...

The soi dogs are not the source of the dog meat trade. Why would scrawny, bony creatures be sought after for human consumption. Well fed, plump dogs, family pets or more likely farm bred dogs would form the basis of this trade. Blame the Thai's ridiculous belief in karma rather than the poor animals themselves for the proliferation of these unfortunate beasts out front of your suburban homes.

Without a doubt, Thai Visa has the most vile, ignorant, racist, self-serving, obnoxious commenters of any online website I've seen. Almost every one of you (but not all) are disgusting. I rarely read below the headlines because the comments are usually so nasty and vitriolic. One of the main problems with Thailand are the foreigners who live here, like most of the commenters. There should be a culling of them, but humanely, taken to the airport and deported. It's definitely obvious that most of you have no life, no humanity, hate Thailand and it's people, hate the customs, the food and the language. You just complain 24/7, no matter the topic. Most of you are a sad lot who talk up a mighty wind, but in all probability, do nothing to better anyone around you, your own life situation, or the country you've adopted. It's downright shameful. I'm sure you'll rail against me, but that won't change any of the facts of my comment.

omg someone is off his meds again.

You remind me of a Tom Lehrer song which he introduced somewhat like this : "Some people are intolerant, racist, nasty, and I hate people like that, I think they should all be lined up against the wall and shot"...

What a great guy, Tom Lehrer, what a brain, what a wit. I wish he would write a few comments on this Forum from time to time. He was born in 1928 and I believe he's still around.

Oh and by the way, how do you know for sure that people 'just complain 24/7, no matter the topic' if you rarely read below the headlines ?

Nah, I don't think people will 'rail against you', dude, I have a feeling they'll just say "well, this guy sure chose his ID very adequately" and move on to the next post.

I gave him a like because he is correct in his assessment of so many people who post in this forum who don't give a shit about anything other than their own lives.

SPOCK.

No most likely I would not show pictures of dogs in a cage, neither would I show her a man with his head blown off, someone dead on a road from a crash (popular in Thailand) or a male or female with their genitals out, so what's your point???? Clearly, some of the darker sides to human kind we find out for ourselves later in life, or would you have me show my 5 year old now?

We have a rottweiler by the way, and before you go down the what if route, it would be an utter cretin who tried to abduct him.

This thread is about cruelty not the killing of animals. You are defending the darker sides of life from which you want to shield your daughter. Torturing animals is not the same as quickly dispatching an animal that has been bred for human consumption. And do you not credit your Rottweiler with having a greater capacity to feel emotions and pain than a cow or sheep? Or is the rottweiler purely there for protection, consigned to life outdoors guarding the perimeter of your property. Didn't the photos of the dogs crammed into the baskets arouse any level of compassion within you or are you just able to accept that kind of atrocity as people exercising their right to choose how they treat the animals they choose to kill for food?

She's five, she doesn't read TV as of yet. However, if she asked I would tell her that there are some people in the world who like to eat dog as we like to eat pork and chicken. We have had this conversation about rabbit already. Before you harp on about conditions, take a look what the good colonel does to chicken, the dogs are getting off lightly by compassion.

That's not to say in an ideal world this wouldn't happen, but who in hell said this world was ideal.

Would you show her the photos of the dogs in the truck cages crammed in like clothes in a laundry basket? I have never seen animals cramped up like this in transport cages. And dogs are not ordinary animals. Or are you going to tell lies to your daughter as it appears you will from your response? Does she have a pet dog?

She forgot to mention that they torture the dogs before fillet them so the meat tastes sweeter.

Only a moron or sadist would do that because the adrenaline makes the meat inedible. The same as deer and boar that that are hunted with dogs; the meat is inedible. Trapping, deer stands, boar trails can be used to gather quality, tasty game. Where I grew up in the country, hunters stopped using dogs except to flush out game birds or point out trees with squirrels and raccoons in them. I grew up lower middle-class in the country and we supplemented our larder with wild game. I have friends in Isaan that eat large ants, grubs, toads, and almost anything that moves. When you are poor, protein is protein and one can't afford to be choosy.

Getting confused with eating snakes.

When I was in Vietnam and we eat snake, they hit the cobra with bamboo sticks because they believe if the adrenalin is flowing then there is more taste in the meat when the snake is slaughtered

And it is the same with dogs and cats. They are tortured and beaten to sweeten the flavour. It's called a fact, my friend, not a confusion.

Who cares and what the hell is Downtown Abbey?

Would anyone in Britain care if Nok Noi and Thongchai Mcintyre made a video about the treatment of rabbitsin the UK?

Good questions, as usual.

Make you wonder who is organizing something like this and for what reason?

More dogs eaten in Vietnam, China and South Korea. The latter very cruel.

The Japs are killing Whales again.

Game birds are bred and reared to be blasted out the sky in the UK. Deer are hunted in Scotland. Poaching going on all over the world, rhino and elephant slaughter in Africa etc etc.

Seems like someone or some group might be trying to keep Thailand under scrutiny for all the wrong reasons at the moment, cause as much trouble as possible for them. Paint them as the worst when they're not.

What a load of rubbish! Poor Thailand being victimised!

People who complain about the amount of dogs in their soi should help pay for them to be neutered or humanely put to sleep and help clean up their Sois rather than just sit on the bar stool and moan about it put your money where your mouth is [ I doubt it very much ] Most dogs that go into rescues in USA/UK end up being euthanized anyway I doubt this very much all my dogs that I have in the UK come from shelters and all the ones I donate money to do not put down heathy animals, not sure about the USA possibly a country full of greedy people so just put their dogs down, but defiantly not happening in the UK we put our money where our mouths are.

Pay whom? Labour is cheap in Thailand, so I suspect many people who are bothered by snarling and potentially dangerous soi dogs would gladly pay an agency or a company a reasonable fee to have them humanely removed.

Please advise us further about this, so we can contact the people who provide this service, or you may be accused of sitting on a bar stool and unreasonably moaning about people who complain about soi dogs.

BTW, I guess your "bar stool" comment was to compromise the character of some people. If you don't like soi dogs then you must be some some degenerate alcoholic who spends the day in bar. Cheap shots at people don't make your opinion any stronger.

Isn't the fact that dogs are not "put down" here, as they are in some other countries, something to do with Buddhist beliefs?

Thai vets in my experience will not put down injured animals because of Buddhism. Doesn't seem to matter if the animal suffers pain or incredible inconvenience.

Seriously, with all the problems in the world celebs get together to help with this???? Hardly Bob Geldof's live aid is it, could think of thousands of things that need the media attention more than this.

Thats right Jeremy, cos Ebola is never talked about is it? Or the fact Islamic lunatics are beheading innocent people in the name of their god. Oh hang on, we never hear of the Ukraine airplane anymore do we, or the one went in to the ocean, presumably.

So <deleted> has other problems around the globe to do with the fact dogs, soi or not, are being treated with huge cruelty in a land that supposedly doesn't eat their meat and is also strongly Buddhist?

I stand corrected, this is absolutely the best use of celebrity status possible. How blind of me not to see it the first time, thanks.

How would you explain a cage full of dogs about to be clubbed to death to your little daughter?

hmm, the usual - our set of values in the West are superior to your set of values in the East. Why doesn't she speak up about the cruel treatment of cows or pigs or chickens in Britain? But then it's ok to raise those animals in mass inhumane farms, kill them and eat those animals, but just not dogs......

There is no point replying to posters like you who so totally miss the point.

It is amazing to me that people would think of speaking out against a valid food source, yet say nothing about cruelty towards humans; child labor, child abuse, slavery of migrants. I believe that humans should be first before animals. If it means that humans eat animals to gain protein, so much the better for both animals and humans.

Read my post above about human culling. And who says the same people protesting the barbaric treatment of dogs isn't also concerned about other issues in this world!

People eat meat. Some people eat dog meat. Why is it that people that are always going on about tolerance seem determined to force the world to adopt their ways? Next thing, they'll be going after the French for eating rabbits.

It's not about what people eat but how the animals are treated and killed. Why can't you get this through your thick head! The Chinese, Vietnamese and apparently Thais go out of their way to dispatch the dogs in the cruelest way possible.

Why every 2 or 3 weeks somebody comes up on this forum, crying and asking for sympathy, because the police searched them or made them have a drug test?

They should know by now this is perfectly legal, not only in Thailand but all over the world.

What is illegal in Thailand and they should put it in their thick heads, is that they shouldn't use any drugs or smokes while here.

Is this so hard to understand?

Why should people be dragged off the street for such tests? What if you are a tourist who smokes dope back in your own country and it is in your system? How can you be charged if you have no drug on your person? No wonder tourist numbers are declining. Might be legal but that doesn't make it a correct procedure.

Ha Ha ah ha ha !

CCTV will get safety when their guards are sleeping !!!!

They have guards employed for sleeping in working time !!

Ha ha ha ha !!

In other countrys guards are fired if they sleep on working time,

you need to watch your guards by CCTV !!!

Between 4pm and 6am next morning, prisoners are together in their cells without being observed by guards or, I believe, CCTV footage of cell activity. It is not a case of guards sleeping but rather not being present at all. Without this private time, prisoners would not be able to charge or use the mobile phones that are smuggled in. Prisoners wishing to bully or victimise other prisoners can do so knowing their actions will not be observed.

I am guessing that people who have not been drug users, do not know how to go about getting them without taking a chance on being arrested and ending up even worse off. The only way that I know is to ask a tuk-tuk driver and that ends badly for many people.

You'd be on the money with that reasoning. Even those who do take drugs come unstuck in Thailand and elsewhere, often becoming unwilling contributors to the police benevolent fund when trying to score. Thailand is probably a nightmare in which to procure drugs given how squeaky clean it has sought to become. Scoring from tuk tuk drivers would be enough to drive you to suicide. If they were your only drug source, your life would be a living death anyway.