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Sooner they execute them the better.

They have served 10 years in jail and are model prison citizens. Even the prison governor spoke on their behalf and had dinner with them on their final night. Your comment suggests to me that they are more deserving of a longer life than you.

I have been critical of Thunder earlier in the thread, but to be fair to him, there is no reason why he needs to tell us what the crime was for which the guy was committed.

The prices inside the prison are even higher than in the 'welfare shop'. Prison is an expensive place to be in Thailand.

Buddhists won't put an animal down but they are quite happy to allow it to needlessly suffer.

OP, said:

"Tried to google this but almost nothing in Eglish...Thanks in advance!!"

Strange, as that is a very well covered topic, on the WWW.

Perhaps I googled for wrong terms/phrases. I am not an expert in prisons and visits to those, sorry. I found just one good and detailed link in English (it is in the 4th post of this thread). Most of other links are found as blah-blah-blah-ohhh-how-bad-thai-jails-are-stay-away, but nothing constructive.Then I stopped checking there, and started asking here.

Post or PM the valuable links if you have any. Thanks!

I am surprised you didn't find this site useful http://www.thaiprisonlife.com/ !

You can have 2 seven fluid ounce* beers or 2 shots of whisky etc in the first hour and one thereafter. You will most likely be slightly under .05 or so the story goes. There are drug tests sometimes as well in Australia 0 for instance, marijuana has to be at least 3 hours through the system. The cops here supposedly cover the back streets too.

* 14us fl oz = 0.41403L

OP, are you really man enough? In going to see someone who was sentenced only for a year and above or so you seem so frightened?

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Again going to prison to see even the toughest criminal will not require any fear.

I fear not people (those I can deal with) - but the System, which may link me to his case.

Sorry, I can't say you the full details of his case. It is a serious one. The case, not the guy himself.

I am very surprised that he was not extradited to USA, as his so-called "colleagues" (whose he was never ever seen). There is something behind this "1 year" - that's why I don't want to be a smallest part of that. The case I meant, not the guy himself.

If your background is clean then any check will reveal nothing and there will no records made on your person.

Which background did you mean here? Will they anyhow "check" me on the time of the visit? What will that be?

There are probably officers from Interpol and the FBI stationed around the prison just waiting for your visit. When you hand over your passport you won't see it again until your release from a Thai prison in 5 years time. Is that what you want to hear?

If you want to remain anonymous don't produce a camera or attempt to take shots with a mobile phone or deposit 18000 baht into his account. I have never seen anyone take a photo in the visiting room but maybe that's just me.

Only your photo page is photocopied. Not your visa nor anything else.

Either you want to visit someone or you don't. Thinking you are being targeted for visiting someone who has served 9 months of a very short sentence is bullshit. If you just want to come up with one reason after another why you might be in danger then the solution is simple - don't visit. The person I visit is doing 13 years and I have zero concern for my own safety in seeing him.

The serving time of others is not equal to your own privacy.

I don't know how this visit will reflect to my life in coming years (especially if intl agencies invilved, as I was told) - so I want to visit the guy as anonymously as it technically possible in Thailand, and that's it. Regardless the fact that he gets just 1 year, or life sentence - it is doesn't matter to me. He might be locked again just after minutes he get released (or even get his serving "extended") - who knows that for sure? TIT.

Will try Thai person+"Sorry forgot my passport at home" show. I see nothing wrong about this - and often it works.

If not succeed - then I will come back another day with my own ID and try again.

It won't work but if you believe that often it works then why are you asking such basic questions about visiting here? If you do not produce your passport you will not get a visit. It is that simple.

O.K. now...

The OP has stated that he does not really know the guy who is locked up and does not even know why he is locked up.

He also states that te CIA and Interpol are involved.

It is an international case..that is pretty serious stuff.

Why in the world would the OP even want to get involved??

Ever heard about the meaning of morality?

Seems not.

Anyway you look at it....I'm done with this guy...except for putting his name on my "avoid list".

Bye.

I don't know why I wasted my time giving you the best advice I could. If you saw the way prisoners live in Thai jails you might change your mind about the justice of their punishment for drug users etc. If you are as straight and stitched up as you are starting to sound you should not go anywhere near a thai jail. Let your 'friend' rot. Let your morality triumph over your humanity.

Either you want to visit someone or you don't. Thinking you are being targeted for visiting someone who has served 9 months of a very short sentence is bullshit. If you just want to come up with one reason after another why you might be in danger then the solution is simple - don't visit. The person I visit is doing 13 years and I have zero concern for my own safety in seeing him.

I am sorry. I thought that you said that he had committed a drug offence. Nevertheless you will be safe enough in visiting him.

70% of prisoners are in jail for drug offences. The friends and family of each of them are not afraid of being prosecuted as a result of a visit. Why should you be?

Are those phones at the visiting room somehow monitored/recorded/"censored"?

Can I speak to him freely on our native language, or shall I speak only "understandable by Mr.Sergeant out there" language, or how?

Can I print the letter from his family (on paper), bring it with me, and let him read that through the glass? Not pass the paper to him I meant, but just place that to the glass.

Nothing is censored. There will be a line of you speaking through phones. Can't see how they would be monitored or recorded but if you don't discuss anything controversial you won't have a problem anyway. You can mail him the letter or try giving to the ID guy as suggested above. Letters that I send to my friend are checked going in and out, usually holding up delivery by several days.

Is it possible to pass books/magazines/newspapers to the inmate?

You are probably looking at a layer of steel mesh, behind which are the steel bars and then the (bullet proof?) glass - you are speaking through an intercom - you cannot pass anything.

You can submit items to the officer who copies your ID and he will do an initial check (probably another later) returning anything unacceptable to you.

My experience was in submitting 4 photos - he returned 2 of them to me, not because there was anything wrong, but because "2 enough".

She received the other 2 no problem.

Did not know this. Will the officer accept anything that couldn't otherwise be included in a letter?

Is it possible to pass books/magazines/newspapers to the inmate?

No it is not possible. You can send a letter. You can give them nothing other than what you buy from the store or pay into their bank account. You may be able to donate books/magazines to the prison library, if there is one. The jail I regularly visit in Pathum Thani has a library (only Thai prisoners).

You will not have a problem giving your passport for ID. There will be no cross checks. When you see how many people visit you will soon realise that no one is going to check the details of an individual visitor. You will not be able to see him if you do not present ID for photocopying. Taking a Thai person will make no difference to this requirement. You are not presenting ID to the police, only the prison. Stop worrying.

I was in Buriram prison a few years ago .

People were not permitted to bring anything , only pass money over for use in the prison shop.

When i was locked up i had 2 cans of cola with me guards poured them down a drain. Told me not allowed only what you buy in the prison shop.

So yes i am talking from personal experience.

Personal experience, can the 'authorities' be trusted to be given money for an inmate ? TIT is a concern.

Yes they can. You get a receipt. Never had a problem depositing money.

Check out this site: http://www.thaiprisonlife.com/

Buying stuff in the shop is not so easy because the list of items is in Thai. Depositing money into his prison account is easier but the range inside more limited and expensive than the outside shop.

How many provide an education to the same level even of a quality comprehensive in the UK let alone a day private school in the uk.

Note these fees are for day pupils . if it were for boarding they would be approaching the same fees as a middle boarding school in the UK. Compare the facilities of these schools and the quality of the teachers with the namesake school in the uk, and they are a poor imitation.

I taught at Bangkok Patana during its growth period in the 90's and it was a quality school then with excellent facilities. It was the best experience in my professional life. There I was on better money than I'd have been in Australia. I have no doubt that it provides a superior standard of education to a comprehensive school and at least the equal of a day private school in Britain or Australia. I think you'd be surprised by the quality of the buildings, grounds, equipment teachers and the quality of student. There are heaps of applicants and only the highly competent would be selected by the 'elite' schools.

'Wiwat said the employee has been suspended and his salary reduced.'

How can the waiter possibly be retained as an employee, albeit on a reduced salary, following this incident? Surely he would be instantly dismissed at the very least!

Sorry it appears some have taken offence. After 10 days of it I am frazzd. The headman is actually a friend of mine. The music isn't at a temple it's in a house 3 doors up. Everyone is complaining about it but know one wants to say anything, a common occurrence here. The local pump broke a few weeks ago, no water for a week. No one said a word. It's the culture here I know. Don't like it leave ...I know.

I reckon you have a perfectly legitimate complaint. Sleep is a precious commodity which should not be disturbed in the early hours of the morning. Once woken,

I never get back to sleep. You have my sympathy.

Statutory retirement age in government schools is 60 so this sounds like the agency having its own rules. If they wish, individual schools can extend that for teachers they want to hang on to. A lot of 'third party' employers (agencies service providers etc) won't take you after age 59 because they can't get a work permit for you.

So you need a work permit before 60 to have a teaching job after 60?