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2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/ex-minister-boonsong-20-others-faulted-corru...

 

try again

Just now, Eric Loh said:

You seem to know a lot on this case. Like to ask your opinion whether the 42 years sentencing for 847 M Baht G to G rice fraud was appropriate compare to 20 years for Sondi's 1.08 B bank fraud.

What " 847 M Baht G to G rice fraud "?

1 hour ago, pornprong said:

Look at you all excited about evidence.

Too bad you didn't take minute to look for a bit of it before posting that Boonsong was never elected.

Keep it up son, you're headed in the right direction.

Actually I did google his name plus MP, no hits, just hundreds of sites discussing the evidence against him and his sentence.

I guess you missed them, or do you avoid sites that don't follow the red message?

2 minutes ago, Siripon said:

Why don't you read the court's verdict and its reasons for his guilt.

The fake G to g contracts, the assistance of certain rice mills

Of course he won't serve 42 years if he behaves himself. Possibly a third or less of his sentence as Rakkiart did. Maybe less if he reveals his paymaster.

The court's verdict doesn't matter because he doesn't trust the courts.

The evidence presented in parliament by the Democrats doesn't matter because he knows they are just BKK elite.

The evidence reported in the press doesn't matter because he knows the press is restricted by the junta.

The only evidence acceptable is that of PTP elected MPs (as opposed to stinking Democrats who bought their seats) and Chalerm said there was no corruption.

So as he wasn't there at the time, or involved in the scam, or possibly that he was, he just doesn't know but innocent until proven guilty, but not by the biased Thai courts.

3 hours ago, Chris Lawrence said:

I knew one girl who had 4 phones for Darling 1,2,3,4. All sending money for her to live on.

Definitely an amateur. With one modern smart phone she would get both a picture and his name as caller ID, even nationality if she cared to add it. Saves confusion, embarrassing lapses of memory, b/f's suspicions about multiple phones, and fingerprint access to the contact list keeps it secure from prying eyes.

7 minutes ago, thairookie said:

What if the offence warrants a jail term ?  Will I have to share the jail term ?

 

I was thinking along the line of reporting police corruption.

Perhaps it could be given as a credit against future incarceration.

17 minutes ago, garbolino said:

Did you NOT read a few days ago the Prime Minister say "I DO WHAT I WANT"  ???

Could you compare and contrast that with recent elected PMs? Were they restricted by conflicts of interest, perceived corruption, even simple ethics?

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Jariyaporn, who claimed her family had a fruit-selling business in many provinces

The other side of the coin is that the "husbands" thought they were marrying into a wealthy family.

4 hours ago, candide said:

If it's against the law, why hasn't anyone been indicted?

It's also against the law to nominate people facing serious criminal charges as party list MPs. As to your question, given both laws were broken the EC stated there was a strong case to disband PTP, then stated that doing so would likely precipitate serious political violence. THAT is why.

Thaksin parties have a habit of breaking electoral law. Why do that if their support is so strong?

Just now, pornprong said:

I think the voters of the 7th district of Chiang Mai would overwhelming vote for both PTP and Boonsong again.

 

Unlike timid supporters of fascism, the voters of Chiang  Mai see things for what they are and know an elected government has been illegally overthrown and a political witch hunt aimed at tarnishing democracy has been in full swing since May 22 2014.

So you and the voters of CM think Boonsong is innocent despite the evidence presented? Oh, that's right you don't know and you don't want to know. And you think Thai voters are like you?

1 minute ago, pornprong said:

And what would you like to see happen to Prayuth?

The topic is Boonsong. Do you think the voters of 7th district Chiang Mai will vote PTP again after their last candidate turned out to be a criminal who helped rob the nation of billions of baht?

1 hour ago, tomta said:

How much time must expire before we can call  a temporary situation a permanent one? I guess that's why you use the screaming capitals of CURRENT. Don't forget the 20 years during which whatever government emerges must adhere to the policies of some nameless, unelected "reform" bureaucrats. Even Stalin only had five  year plans. I suppose we must be thankful they didn't go for the 1000 year plan

If it was a choice between permanent and going back to the way things were, I would be ambivalent. the best we can hope for is an eventual return to democracy of a vastly superior form than the Shin era, which shouldn't be hard to achieve.

1 hour ago, pornprong said:

Looks like somebody has no idea how Thai democracy works.

Who would have though that pro-junta posters base their anti democracy views on biased assumptions without bothering to look for easily available proof?

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MPs_elected_in_the_Thai_general_election,_2011

 

Thank you, I stand corrected.

BTW he won't be re-elected in this lifetime.

2 hours ago, pornprong said:

A strange concept of voted in - how exactly did Boonsong end up in parliament?

 

Why do you try so hard to deny PTP were popularly elected and never mention the complete unaccountability of the Junta?

Why does every minor detail of diversion from democratic perfection bother you so much when it is PTP but the complete and total lack of democracy by the Junta always goes unmentioned?

 

Some people might start to think you are a bit of a hypocrite.

Do you have no idea how Thai democracy worked? Boonsong was NOT an MP AFAIK, he was an appointed cabinet minister. But if you have proof that he was, please show it.

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

Ever had a fan blade break while the fan is running? No?

No, have you? Does it sound like a shotgun?

4 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

You've really haven't got a clue about history. For most of it, Muslims were much more tolerant of Christians and Jews than Christians were of Jews and Muslims. A Christian community thrived and prospered in Arab lands for 2 millenia. The Balkans were ruled by Muslims for several centuries and Christianity thrived. Lots of other examples.

To tell you the truth, I would rather NOT live in a christian enclave in a muslim society, tolerant or not.

BTw do you know if those christian communities had beer bars, strip clubs, bacon sandwiches or BBQed prawns? Probably not?

Apparently the deal was struck earlier this year, announced May 9. 

Hmmm, an electric fan that sounds like a shotgun. Unusual that.

I have to wonder who signed that memorandum of understanding for what seems to be a lousy deal.

But I have a suggestion, as Thailand doesn't need the water, tell them we'll take the 300 million cm as generating capacity, and buy 100 million megawatt hours at B2.6/MWh. At 24 MW that should last nearly 500 years.

1 hour ago, pornprong said:

Not a single Thai voted for the Junta, why aren't you complaining about the entire nations loss of rights the same way you complain about the minorities rites under the previous government?

 

49% of the people allegedly lose their rights and you're outraged, 100% of people actually lose their rights and... not a peep from Halloween.

 

If you want to be taken seriously, you have to be consistent.

No, you have to understand that one government declared itself to be a democracy, the other has no such pretensions. More to the point, the junta is a temporary measure, Thaksin and his sycophants intended to remain in office as long as the people would tolerate their corruption.

1 hour ago, pornprong said:

Clearly, he was voted in, by the people of Thailand. As for popular, well, all we can know for sure, is that he as at least more popular than whoever it was that stood against him in the election.

Clearly you have a strange concept of "voted in". Boonsong did not appear as commerce Minister in the first Yingluk cabinet, so even if the cabinet had been announced BEFORE the election, nobody would have been voting for him.

59 minutes ago, robblok said:

Then why the comments about the people removing corrupt officials in votes while this clearly is the job of the judiciary. Only when corruption cannot be proven in a court of law but is highly likely the people might think about it in the election and get rid of those officials. But that has nothing to do with this case where the guy was caught red handed by the judiciary and the evidence is overwhelming.  Unless you mean he should not be prosecuted because he was voted in and popular. 

Actually, he wasn't voted in, he was appointed by a fugitive criminal. As for popular.........

25 minutes ago, YetAnother said:

Killer Gang Rapers going free because they are so called linked to influential figures; boy  is Thailand in the toilet

They have just been arrested. Should they have been executed by the custody sergeant?

2 hours ago, transam said:

So what did the German government of the day design this for and how was it used........?

 

 

The name alone tells the story Vergeltungswaffe 2, (Retribution Weapon or Vengeance Weapon).

7 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

I am not sure two wrongs justify the fire bombing of 250K women and children. NOBODY has/had the right to do any such thing. Soldiers can beat the crap out of each other all day if they want (and does that justify General Hague destroying a complete generation of young men because he was utterly mental while in command of the British Army?) but NOTHING justifies the wanton murder of women and children. It is Genocide, just different wrapping paper.

 

As for Poland's claims, it is way to late. The current citizens of Germany are no longer guilty for the sins of their fathers (until the next world cup match with England   ) and it begs the question, where do we stop? I think the UK needs some of Norway's wealth for the rape and pillage carried out by the vikings. How about we take on the Vatican for compensation for the Spanish Inquisition?

Besides the discredited 250K figure, can you think of any war, anywhere, where they played by your rules?