halloween

2 hours ago, coulson said:

 

Due diligence also means extending to the International market.

 

The Chinese only developed high speed rail this Century. The Japanese and French have been working on it for a little bit longer.

 

My point is this is not at all about building a sustainable project, it is about pandering to the Chinese.

 

Stonehenge 2 coming soon to a town near you.

 

2/3 of the world's high speed rail tracks are in China, and they are building the line through Laos. but let's not "pander".

BTW Stonehenge attracted 1.3 million tourists last year; not a bad little earner.

1 minute ago, Chip Allen said:

Thugs who seize your property and sell it for profit. What was the difference between law enforcement and criminals again???

Law enforcement takes away the criminals assets bought with proceeds of crime and gives them back to the people of the country. If you have assets and you can't explain how you came to own them, then the odds are extremely high that you obtained them illegally, either through crime or tax evasion.

27 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

What's the plan this week - is it still going to be standard gauge (1m43)?

 

I remember (last year, last month, last week..) some bright spark suggested building it as narrow gauge (1m0) as it would be cheaper. It was probably the same someone who had no idea it needs to be standard gauge to interconnect internationally.

Never knew if that was a serious suggestion. Probably have to wait until it's completed to find out for sure, but I doubt I'll ever live to be a hundred-and-fifty...

 

Possibly that somebody has a better knowledge than you. Malaysia and most of Myanmar's system is metre gauge. However, as this will be a Chinese built railway designed to connect to the Chinese system, there is no doubt it will be standard gauge.

20 hours ago, natway09 said:

They should be concerned .. The Boss is determined to spend all this money to ensure his relationship with China.

Have a look at SRT's progress over the last 40 years. Still no double track in lots of places.

That's where the money should be going & a decent freight train to Lam Chabang to get 2,000 bloody trucks off the road

BANGKOK, 5 May 2017 (NNY) - The Eastern Economic Corridor (EEC) commitee is pushing for a study on the construction of a double track railway to connect three main ports in Thailand. 

Minister of Industry Uttama Savanayana said the committee had urged the State Railway of Thailand, the Port Authority of Thailand and the Industrial Estate Authority of Thailand (I-EA-T) to develop a master plan of the double track railway project. The railway, which will connect Laem Chabang, Sattahip and Map Ta Phut ports, is expected to enhance the logistic system of the EEC. 

Try to keep up.

56 minutes ago, Techno Viking said:

So if the finance company still own the vehicle the part mentioned "returned to owner" is infact the finance company and not the suspect who has legal interest in  the car?

Correct. They can prove they laid out B11 million for it, so have a claim to ownership. He put up B13 million without providence and suspected of being proceeds of crime which gives him SFA ownership.

The finance company don't want the car, they want their money back.

3 hours ago, Techno Viking said:

a snippet from another source;

 

"ONCB secretary general Sirinya Sithichai said the starting price of the Lamborghini car could not be brought down much because the car still has outstanding finance on it.

Besides the suspect still has legal interest in the car, In case that the court rules the car has no link to drug case, then it has to be returned to its owner he said. "

 

Why are these vehicle even on the auctioning block at this point in time ?.

 

Perhaps because the finance companies asked for them to be sold as payments have ceased. Do you understand the concept of a depreciating asset? Or perhaps they don't want to be left holding the hot potato when other cops come to check the import paperwork.

17 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

Thank you for the perfect example of a person who if serving on a jury would acquit.

 

Seems in your hot-headed rush, you only read the first paragraph of my post and thus misunderstood it. You can try again if you like.

If I was serving on a jury I would have ALL the evidence and argument for consideration, then I would decide.

I understood your poor logic. Try this, if there are NO guns in a situation the chance of a fatal shooting are zero. The odds are much higher if one gun is present, and the curve is hyperbolic as more guns are present. In a society with more guns than people, the result is inevitable.

14 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

Very probably guilty of 3rd degree or 2nd degree homicide.

 

However numerous cases have shown that it is nigh on impossible to gain a conviction against a police officer in this kind of killing in America.

 

Unfortunately the margin for miscalculation and misunderstanding is tiny in a society where

i) there is significant racial mistrust and separation

ii) there is significant crime

iii) a swathe of the population not only own handguns but carry them round with them all the time, legally or otherwise.

 

Since none of these factors will change in the near future, you can safely expect more shootings of this kind and more not guilty verdicts. The police will perceive a threat which may be unreal and will react with instant deadly force which cannot be undone. At least some members of the jury will side with the police (as a force rather than an individual) and not convict the charged individual police officer.

 

One factor which could reduce the number of killings would be specific instructions both to officers and members of the public for situations in which armed members of the public interact with police officers. On this occasion, it seems both parties did not know what to do, misunderstood the other and the result was an enormous miscalculation and the shooting of the victim.

As he just been acquitted, that probability is zero. He has been tried and judged by 12 of his peers, you don't get a say in the matter.

24 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said:

I think when they mention Thai workers....they really mean Burmese and Cambodian slaves.

The 75% content may be close, but there'll be a flood of "specialist" Chinese companies that will open here......and once they start they'll probably never leave.

The next civilian government, if ever there is one, will be hammered with huge debts for years, and an extremely expensive rail system to manage.

"...... a flood of "specialist" Chinese companies that will open here......and once they start they'll probably never leave."  

aka foreign investment, allegedly a positive. They will also have a very good dual track rail line producing foreign income for handling Chinese freight. A somewhat better investment than warehouses full of rotting rice.

17 minutes ago, coulson said:

 

Look closer.....

 

75% = 136 billion baht

25% = 43 million baht

 

But the most confusing thing of all is why anyone would bypass due diligence for Chinese Engineering expertise !?!?

 

This project has disaster written all over it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Due diligence? What language do you think the test would be in? How much of that test would be relevant to high-speed rail construction; any?

Who is more likely to have in-depth knowledge of high speed rail, Thai engineers or the Chinese who have working on it for years?

16 minutes ago, robblok said:

Then she probably got paid.. others did not because there was no money reserved for it. But I really detested the rice scheme.. so much money put into it.. to benefit only the farmers a voting block. If she had put it in the universal healthcare program I would have supported it as everyone would have benefited.. but that would not have given her the voting block of the farmers..  so its not about helping the people.. its about getting in power. 

 

Its always the farmers this that.. but never really the other poor / middle class. Why.. because they are the means to get her in power. I find that really unfair to all the others... a garage goes bust.. tough luck b.. a farmer loses money on a crop.. here take this bag of money.  

Why do they bury farmers 3 feet down? So they can still put their hand out.

Notice how the "democracy fighters" get support from out TVF friends while they are shrouded in the fog of obscurity, but when they emerge into a hard focus and they are exposed as violent thug criminals, that support disappears with the fog.

Take for example k.Bandit. One day he's an unknown red hero, fighting the injustice of a coup 4 years before. When it emerges he was paid to fire RPGs into hotels, temples and tank farms, he suddenly becomes part of an "extremist violent minority".

4 hours ago, Thechook said:

My wife was quite happy with the rice scheme.

Would that be "I'm all right Jill"?

2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Yes Halloween, wake me up when the NACC decide to investigate the 7 outstanding cases of Ahbisit and Suthep. 

Ah, you're a card Eric. Those would be the one's brought by Yingluk's pet pig Tarit, currently facing prosecution for abuse of office. The same Tarit the changed the definition of perjury. Go back to sleep, it's safer.

2 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

i wonder if there's no bidders because given the recent news on expensive cars there's doubt about who really is the current owner.

What are the odds that the correct import duties have been paid?

13 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Get more done or told like 'yes sir' roger out. Off course more corruption uncovered only on a particular trajectory. NACC still has a lot of corruption cases that are still "under investigation " and we know which political sides they are. 

Yes Eric, and although you won't admit it, there is still plenty to find. When you a vein of gold, there's not much sense in digging elsewhere.

3 minutes ago, stephen tracy said:

I do not hold my adopted country in contempt, I hold the greedy, oppressive, inept so-called generals in contempt.  How can you possibly defend an entity that comes up with something as utterly disgusting and ludicrous as attitude adjustment?  That says it all right there.  It is indefensible. 

If it stops the political violence, I can live with it. You have dragged this thread way off topic. Have the last say, I am only interested in replying to further to on-topic posts.

Just now, stephen tracy said:

Get more done?  What, beach chairs, lottery tickets, penning songs, attitude adjustment, twerking???  Yeah great.  As for corruption, they only go after corruption when it suits them, particularly corruption in who they perceive as their political enemies, never themselves or their allies. How do you think Prayuth and his inner circle got so wealthy of a soldier's pay? But Prayuth made it very clear early on that Thais questioning his personal wealth is off limits. Meaning, ask, and you go to jail.

That's right concentrate on the frivolities, don't look at the positive aspects, it will make your sense of superiority stronger. If you look at the national park encroachment, the buddhism scams, the luxury car import scam, the G2G rice scam, the cracking down on police you might realise they would not have happened under the PTP government.

30 minutes ago, stephen tracy said:

There you go again, claiming that TV members that criticize the junta and do not trust them (for good reason) are all red supporters.  I loathed Thaksin but I think the generals are even more dangerous.  But it's safe to say that I view both with contempt. You, on other hand, have clearly picked a side and stop at nothing to defend Prayuth and his "government". 

I actually see many faults with Prayuth and his government, but I have enough intelligence to compare it with what it replaced. Others on this forum will criticise anything and everthing they attempt, propose and do without any such relativity, and I am happy to point out the inherent hypocrisy in that.

Perhaps you should stop holding your adopted country in contempt and try to find some positives.

17 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

So pleased that you make the distinction that parliment is for elected group of law makers. What we have now is the NLA consisting of unelected appointed rubber stampers pretending to be law makers. 

Does it irk you that the "pretenders" get more done? That much more corruption has been uncovered and is being prosecuted, when Yingluk's STOP corruption couldn't find any.

28 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

In other words as military officers. So there was never any expectation that they would be attending parliament sessions but every expectation to pocket MP pay. Ordinarily that would be theft of taxpayer funds. Obviously, that is not a concern for an unelected parliament who owe their positions to NCPO appointment.

Are you asserting that they haven't attended ANY parliament sessions? May I remind you that our previous PM (also an MP) only attended parliament when she was forced to do so - do you take the same attitude to her?

If there was a payment for the members/chair of the Rice Policy committee, would you suggest she be charged with theft of public funds?

4 minutes ago, candide said:

Complaining about that, while being satisfied of having a whole set of unelected government, NLA, etc...., suggests a very unbalanced attitude. 

Well I find it preferable to a criminal conspiracy posing as a democratic government. Making excuses for criminals simply because they are elected shows a lack of basic morality.

Just now, smutcakes said:

In the murky world of Thai/military police work and obfuscation, we will probably never know.

 

 

If a known red shirt disembowelled a baby on prime time national television, there are TVF posters that would deny it ever happened, insist other people have done it before, or claim the images/DNA/finger prints were faked.

1 minute ago, smutcakes said:

Trouble to frame him? They claim they found a clock with Thaksin on, and he has a red shirt, thats a right framing that. lol

The clock and shirts may indicate his political leanings, but they aren't the evidence that he is the bomber. The suggestion was that he is a scapegoat.

2 hours ago, stephen tracy said:

He was too busy writing songs and counting twerks

It wasn't a HE that I was referring too.