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1 hour ago, hugocnx said:

Restaurants and pubs are bad. They provide seating for people and people are bad too.

Without the alcohol it is tolerable and possibly gives less reason for conspiracy gatherings.

Of course the vaccinated are good people as they have shown their allegiance to the NWO.

 

True or not, Thailand has fallen to THE global regime.  ????

 

 

So where exactly is the headquarters for this global regime? A volcanic island somewhere?

42 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

How long before the big money people that own the malls start screaming and this changes.

I know this doesn't make sense at the current vaccination levels, but once thailand hits 70+% it will, and the large companies will buy into this if it allows for continuity of business and no more lockdowns.

Other countries implementing this have a very high acceptance rate, and also a very vocal minority who won't accept this, but are just going to have to.

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Doesn't that observation apply to every country? And keep in mind that in the case of Sinovac its vaccine was produced by a company that's located in China but it's not the Chinese govt.

So why is the Chinese government defending it? And everything is connected in China. No company is completely independent of the state.

9 hours ago, stupidfarang said:

What concerns me is it is AstraZeneca vaccine is a viral vector vaccine and Moderna is a mRNA vaccine so I would like to know if it is safe to mix the two differnat types.

That combination was used widely in canada with no adverse effects. Even though, according to my well researched ant vaxx friends, we will all have two heads within 6 months as our very DNA is altered...

8 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

The Department of Special Investigation might be talking to the Ministry of Interior on this subject. 

If real estate purchase would be as simple as in most other (Western) countries, then such scams could not even take place. Create a one-page law on how real estate can be held, publish this in English and Thai and maybe stop - for once - a two-tier system by "Thai Only" vs "non-Thais NO". 

Only once I can legally own what I buy I would be considering it; until then you may keep your stuff and keep on cheating the dirty farang ....... 

There is a 1 page law regarding the sales contract requirements for buying a condo - Thailand Condo Contract Regulation | Other Miscellaneous Content (samuiforsale.com)

It's amazing how many sales contracts, especially from foreign developers, don't even come close to following the regulations...

On 8/30/2021 at 2:44 PM, mitos said:

Pattaya city hospital.. people patients told me that 2 - 3 waiting hours it's usually before covid. But almost empty when I come at 5pm. Two of us patients and staff a lots. 30 minutes I am been but empty. Nowhere patients.

You think maybe it's because the more than 1000 hotels in pattaya are empty, and all the people who work in them, and every other part of the tourist industry, have all gone home. Pattaya is a ghost town now and the hospitals are as empty as everywhere else. And even though there are most likely many covid patients in the hospital, you wouldn't see them in the waiting room. Covid patients are usually transported by ambulance.

1 hour ago, 248900_1469958220 said:

Ok, here's the way it goes. 

 

Vaccinated people can still potentially spread Covid 19. They may get less sick. Ok, I will go with that.

Vaccinated person goes to country where there are a sub section of the population that are not vaccinated. Vaccinated person is unknowingly carrying Delta variant......Vaccinated person comes into contact with Kazakhstani (unvaxxed) goat herder. Goat herder gets Delta variant from vaxxed person.....Goat herder gives it to his wife and mother...and so on. 

 

Unless ABSOLUTELY everyone in the world is vaccinated, which will take years possibly decades, how does this work? Those evil goat herders are making variants 'maaaaaan' though the variant is potentially from a vaccinated person. Tell me this is NOT possible. 

 

So, what do we do? Keep the world closed untill everyone...yes, even the goatherder is vaxxed? Tell me the way out.  

You have pretty much answered your own question. 

7 hours ago, n00dle said:

This and every other post like it, are incredibly indicative of what a bunch or miserable smug old fox the majority of posters on here are.

 

I personally would rather regret taking the chance than staying indoors to wither and die waiting for a normal that is never going to happen. 

 

Some folks are living, others stay home and argue about the virus. I know who I would rather be counted 

I agree. Take the chance but don't whine about it when things don't work out as planned, or expect others to bail you out.  That's just called life.

5 hours ago, Henryford said:

I would NEVER visit a restaurant that required me to show my private medical records. I would rather eat street food. And yes i am vaccinated.

A little bit self-important, but enjoy your street food.

35 minutes ago, calbts2 said:

Yeah they make a lot of sense if you are for medical apartheid and discrimination just to enter, sit, and eat in a public restaurant. And you are wrong, most countries are not moving ahead with this type of plan and many are revolting.

Spain just ruled against these vaccine passports - and rightly so - https://www.majorcadailybulletin.com/news/international/2021/08/19/88381/supreme-court-rules-against-covid-passport-obligation-andalusia.html

 

"Learning to live with it" in my opinion means accepting that life comes with risks while enjoying the freedom to live your life as you choose.  As an unvaccinated person, I will take the very small risk of being able to eat in a restaurant and possibly getting a virus. In fact I did it quite often without any issues during the last year before restaurants were shut down. Did we ever require vaccine passports for the flu, measles, or tuberculosis?

Actually my biggest fear of getting killed or injured in Thailand is driving the highways at night. That to me is much more risky than sitting in a restaurant - getting sick and then dying from a virus.

These measures are knee-jerk over reactions to control behavior and I find them flat out draconian, overreaching, and will be mostly ignored as they will be too complicated to enforce.

Good luck with that. I think you will find the world is a much smaller place for you for the foreseeable future.

56 minutes ago, calbts2 said:

The bottom of that article states "Customers will have to show a certificate to prove they are vaccinated. For those who have been infected and have recovered, they will have to have recovered for at least a month, but not more than 3 months, and must show a negative antigen test result."

 

So if only 8% of the country is fully vaccinated, do all of the restaurants exclude 92% of the population as potential customers?

I wont receive my second shot until the end of October. Does this mean I am forbidden from eating at restaurants for 2 more months?

Also these vaccine passport requirements are illogical as fully vaccinated can also transmit the virus.

Unworkable, unfair, and discriminatory. Oh and what about kids not eligible to get vaccinated - are they going to be required to take antigen tests before eating in a restaurant?

Hope this goes down in flames within a week when restaurants enforcing this realize they have no customers while others that ignore it will again be making money.

 

Vaccine passports make a lot of sense. Symptoms, hospitalizations and covid deaths of vaccinated people is a fraction of that for unvaccinated. So, a roomful of vaccinated people giving each other covid with relatively no ill effect does not put a strain on the health care system. This is called "learning to live with it". 

Most countries are moving forward with this plan, but you are right, Thailand does not have the vax numbers yet to implement this. Maybe in 3-6 months...

1 hour ago, cclub75 said:

Well, the question is not to ask... are the teachers doing a good job. But instead, what your niece is thinking about it ?

Don't you think ?

 

To prevent a child 7 years old to see/touch/interact with in real other children and adults (teachers in the schools) is deeply twisted and detrimental to the child developpment.

 

It's so obvious, it's very weird to write it...

 

Online teaching is certainly ok for teenagers and of course students (universities)... but for children in primary... it's really a collective crime we're committing.

 

And the word is not too strong.

You started off by asking him to ask his niece, which is not bad advice, but then went on to explain what all 7 year olds are feeling now. 

How many have you asked?

Just now, RotBenz8888 said:

Vaccines are poison to the body, you say. Do you consider all vaccines to be a poison, like polio vaccine to children? 

That part was tongue in cheek. I probably should have quoted "poison" because from the first part of my post I completely agree with the usage of vaccines to control covid and many other diseases.

4 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

They chose a government that would rather pocket money and protect their own than be transparent.

 

They chose a government that would spend big on unnecessary military toys while neglecting that social 'safety net'.

 

They chose a government that removed the previous elected administration in a military coup, that formed a new political party with no experience of governance, and that has appointed convicted criminals to positions of authority.

 

Sometimes, those choices end up coming back to haunt you.

If you followed all the shenanigans around the last election, I think a fairer statement would be that the current government chose itself. 

5 hours ago, CelticBhoy said:

The name "TAT" really is quite apt for this organisation  . . . . ????

maybe they should change their name to Tourism Worldwide Authority of Thailand ...

On 8/20/2021 at 7:51 AM, edogthong said:

Thank you for that information. It's fascinating how people are just ignoring it because it doesn't fit the narrative. It seems that many need to believe that the vaccines will be the solution that brings us back to normal life. I suppose if you've taken the jab or even just fully committed to taking it, you're generally not open to any information that'll put your decision into question. 

This is what happens when you spread this nonsense misinformation to the gullible and misinformed:

More Mississippians Using Ivermectin For Livestock Against Covid-19, Then Calling Poison Control (forbes.com)

Just stop.