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It is going to be a real pain in the arse for the students to have to make that collossal 301 metre journey to get a drink.

No doubt this will solve all the alcohol related problems facing Thailand.

I can see all this is gong to do is hinder the liveliehoods of all those who sell drink in these zones and give a huge opportunity to people who have premises on the fringes of those zones..... It will change nowt else, I can promise that.

Lol...

She had no intention of destabilizing the state, but spread rumours on the internet of the PM embezzling 10 Bn baht out of the country. She thought that was stabilizing then?

Then she seems to think that spreading lies of this magnitude is simply 'criticising' ?..... ok.

Why the hell anyone should think that Yingluck has any right to a say in how this country is run in the future is beyond comprehension.

Oh, and if you are right and I am wrong, then I suppose we can expect 61.3% of the Greek population out rioting in the streets of Athens today then. Because they aint out there yet.

No because after the banks remained closed, reality set in. "No to austerity".....lol. Singing a different song now.

Link to the Financial Times. http://blogs.ft.com/brusselsblog/2015/07/10/leaked-greeces-new-economic-reform-proposal/

Greece capitulated on pension reform, VAT, raising the retirement age, changing the tax code, eliminating pension subsidies....Greece caved.

YOU say debt restructuring is on the table but it is not in the actual request to the EU. Here is that request from a Greek newspaper, all 13 pages of it:

http://s.kathimerini.gr/resources/article-files/h-ellhnikh-protash.pdf

And of course there's another bailout....it wasn't there last week because the Greeks wouldn't agree to the reforms, duh.

We will see.

The top and bottom of it is that Syriza know that if they accept STRICTER austerity, then elections will be demanded, Tsipras will be gone and Syrize will never ever be elected again seeing as they have only an anti-austerity ticket. That is suicide that they would never consider. So I am afraid you are miles off the mark.

Also, the Greek people are a lot more resilient than you think.

Go watch Sky news it is being discussed on there by proper experts who are saying that the Greek offer is slightly sweeter than before, which may please the Germans, but they have dmanded more money in return that may scare off the rest of the eurozone leaders.

We all know this is a band-aid and that eventually Greece will have to default. So do the other leaders. This will also show that the EU only won because they put the clamps on the banks and forced the people into total poverty. This is being watched around the world but more importantly by complete Europhiles who seem to be changing their opinion of the EU in light of how ruthless they have played this situation and attacked the actual people of Greece.

This will NOT be forgotten.

Additional: They offer it, but that doesn't mean they do it once they have the money.

True.

I hate the EU anyway as you can probably tell from my picture. So I wouldn't care if they were just playing that lot like a fiddle. It is the Greek people I feel sorry for here.

As far as I see it, they are all just kicking the can down the road a bit further, and we will all see this again within the next 2 years. Having said that, there are still a few humps to get over before this is a done deal. The Greek Parliament will have to ratify it, the Greek people have to want it and the EU and pals have to accept it.

Let us see what happens over the next 24 hours. The OP say 'sweeping reforms' I don't see these as that 'sweeping'.

Oh, and if you are right and I am wrong, then I suppose we can expect 61.3% of the Greek population out rioting in the streets of Athens today then. Because they aint out there yet.

So after all of the posturing, shouting, referendums....the Greeks have caved in and offered up even stricter cuts than what their people "rejected" in their referendum.

Turns out when you're hungry, you can't eat "OXI".

Rubbish

This is nowhere near as bad as what the creditors were demanding last week. Not even in the same league. This is a much better deal and is also to come with both a restructuring package and third bailout. Neither of which were on the table last week. It is Greece that has the EU over a barrel, and have since the referendum. The EU's image has taken a real bashing over this.

Uh huh. Keep telling yourself that.

"Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras agreed to institute sweeping spending cuts, pension reforms, and new taxes on Thursday, a capitulation that could pave the way for significant debt relief for his near-bankrupt country — and potentially keep Greece in the European monetary union. But opposition in Berlin and Athens could sink the proposal before it has a chance to swim.

After a series of emergency meetings in Brussels, Tsipras agreed to reforms that had been rejected by Greek voters — and strongly opposed by the Greek leader himself — in last Sunday’s referendum on whether to bow to European austerity demands. Now, Greece’s creditors — the International Monetary Fund, the European Central Bank, and the European Commission — have until Sunday to accept the package. If they don’t, a Grexit, or Greece getting kicked out of the eurozone, could occur."

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/07/09/athens-has-made-its-peace-with-austerity-but-will-europe-make-its-peace-with-athens/

You copy and pasted someone else's reporting that contains no facts and just goes on using that reporter's chosen wording. Where does it say the conditions are STRICTER that what was rejected in the referendum? It does not mention any of that in your chosen report.

The creditors wanted pensions to be slashed with immediate effect, the creditors wanted tax rises across the board with immediate effect. The creditors wanted VAT rises across the board with immediate effect. The creditors wanted welfare spending cut with immediate effect. In return Greece would get its hands on the 7.2Bn remaining bailout cash promised to them. No offer of restructuring of debts, no promise of a haircut on debts, no promise of any further bailout money. GFo check it up, there is plenty of it reported over the past weeks.

Here are the actual facts of what has been offered by Tsipras.

• tax rise on shipping companies and scrapping tax discounts for islands (already offered a week ago and rejected)
• unifying VAT rates at standard 23%, including restaurants and catering
• phasing out solidarity grant for pensioners by 2019 (meaning penalties for early retirement only)
• €300m ($332m; £216m) defence spending cuts by 2016

In return Greece are asking for a further 55Bn and also a debt restructuring plan for the next 20 years.

So to you, this is STRICTER? I say it is nowhere near as strict as what the referendum was based on. In fact this is a very fair offering and a lot less toxic than before. It is so much better for Greece in fact, that I will be surprised if it were rejected by the EU. This is not a lot different to what Tsipras took into Brussels last Friday and was rejected out of hand. As a matter of fact this is a much better deal than the last one rejected because it includes the very important 55BN extra cash and the 20 year restructuring deal as a cherry on the top.

If this gets accepred, it is game set and match to Greece.

You can post a response as much as you want and colour it up in pretty red fonts, but is does nothing to back up your original post and how Greece has ooffered something stricter than they already rejected.Please show me where it points that out please.

Ironic how Magnum PI got PI'd and had to pay the bill.

No problem having a good holiday in Greece. Turkey is a bad choice. In fact any westerner going on holiday to an Islamic country in this day and age is ill advised. If they took children with them, they would be off their rockers.

Having said that, the notable rise in Islamic extremism and the EU open door policy to all sorts of migrants over the past 15 - 20 years, no European location will be safe. It can happen anywhere. But the chance increases substantially in the Islamic countries.

So after all of the posturing, shouting, referendums....the Greeks have caved in and offered up even stricter cuts than what their people "rejected" in their referendum.

Turns out when you're hungry, you can't eat "OXI".

Rubbish

This is nowhere near as bad as what the creditors were demanding last week. Not even in the same league. This is a much better deal and is also to come with both a restructuring package and third bailout. Neither of which were on the table last week. It is Greece that has the EU over a barrel, and have since the referendum. The EU's image has taken a real bashing over this.

It was their third war since the Hamas takeover.

Wars?

Those were battles, not wars. If Israel really went to war with Hamas, then Hamas would no longer exist.

All allowed to happen by the absolute supra-islamist nutcase Erdogan.

Turkey will be another Islamic warzone within a year.

The man is a complete maniac who is declaring himself a caliphe and even threatened to turn tens of thousands of jihadists onto the EU.

Cameron wants this Turkey to join the EU?..... says it all really.

Thailand should close the Turkish embassy.

I think we can safely assume that this lot will end up straight back in the pokey, this time with a lot less mercy,,,, Or sympathy.

Give it another 4 months and Bangkok will be one big floating market, again.

What difference is that going to make for the rest of Thailand?

That water will simply flow away into the sea.

If ‘Hae Nang Meaw’ doesn't work they are going to 'Pla Chon' - that'll give them rain spirits a wake-up call. The problem is that eventually it WILL rain, which re-inforces belief in the aforementioned idiocy.

It WILL rain, is not the problem, the problem is that because of El Nino, there is predicted to be hardly any storms this season in the Western Pacific region and that is basically Thailand's monsoon season.

If they are correct, Thailand is going to enter the next dry season with hardly any water supplies to see them through to the 2016 monsoon season.

This is the major concern, but has yet to be mentioned by the government because theyu tend to wait to the eleventh hour and then start worrying instead of getting proactive.

Wait till October in the north, it will not be rice farmers suffering alone, there may not be water for washing, cooking, sanitation or drinking. Then they will be up shitcreek without the paddle or the water to float on.

They should not even be growing rice this year, they need to conserve water for other human needs as above.

which brought democracy to the country

Bwahahahahahahaha

The Australian govt should bring them back. Put the mother into prison and take the children into care, this is the only way they will have a chance in life. The mother has already chosen her path and is not fit to have the care and control of the children.

The kids will almost certainly have already been radicalised.

They will also be harbouring a grudge for the death of their father who would probably been a hero image to them.

They are a security risk that can not be ignored. Why take the risk of exposing your population to tomorrow's potential terrorists in your country.

The government's first duty is the safety of their nation and people.

I love the way the USA constantly accuse other nations of 'definitely' committing offences with absolutely zero proof.

The Chinese hacked us.

The Russians shot down MH17

Al Queda was responsible for 9/11

Iraq has weapons of mass destruction

They are in no position to finger wag. The world are cheesed off with them now. They won't last long.

More like the US are massing weapons on Russia's border in a show of aggression.

They desperately need this WW3 before their economy and currency completely tanks and they have nothing to blame.

It looks like they are in a hurry for it.

Russia will flatten them. Russia is no Iraq or Afghanistan.

Putin is running this show.

He owes the EU a black eye.

Greece WILL be out of both the Euro and the EU by September.... tops. The remaining 7.2 Bn will not even last till half way through July and Tsipras will say 'thanks for that' then will default after.

He knows that if he cuts pensions any more and adds more VAT, the people who voted Sriza into power will turn on him and he also knows they will likely be out on their ears by the end of the year and that will be the very last time any of them ever taste power in Greece.

It will be political suicide, and if there is one thing that is certain in this life, a politician puts his career before everything else, no matter what the cost.

Athens will be getting into bed with Moscow.... I guarantee that. They will return to the Drachma and devaslue it to stimulate their economy. 5 years of troika controlled austerity has not worked and will not work in the future.

The whole WESTERN world have been brainwashed by the anti-semitic progressive liberal mainstream media..... Well the stupid ones have been anyway.

There are plenty of reports from Palestinians who say their life is HELL under Hamas, and they are much more afraid of THEM than the Israelis.

I suggest you put down the New York Times or the Washington Post and turn off your Fox News and go to youtube and get yourself educated.

If the Palestinians laid down their weapons, they could have peace tomorrow, if Israel laid down its arms, they would be slaughtered.

The Palestinians do not want peace, they want EVERY Jew dead..... Not Israelis..... JEWS. They have said it countless times.

Theres one on you tube on how the Israelis carried out ethnic cleansing in the towns when the British were evacuating in 1948, miss that one, did we?

No.... But I saw the correct version of it.

You are talking about the small town on the supply route from Tev Aviv to the beseiged Jerusalem that was constantly being attacked by the Palestinians who would slaughter anyone who passed. The place being Dia Yaseem.

Yes there was an attack, no it was not genocide, it was a small unit who went way over the top but were stopped by the next column of Israelis who were really pissed off by what the others had done.

All the survivors were taken to Jerusalem, and the palestinians put out propaganda through their radio station decalring child killings, women being raped and all sorts of atrocities. This was a big backfire, as all the Palestinans fled from all the towns and villages along the route handing the entire territory on a plate to the Isrealis.

I am posting a video below, from about 10 minutes into the video, you hear it from both sides, and especially those who actually admit it was all propaganda..... The Palestinians...

I suggest you find the time to watch all three parts of this video. You may get an education on the subject and how Israel tried their hardest for 50 years to make peace with the palestinians and how actually the very same were most persecuted by all the surrounding Arab nations.

Oh yes... The biggest persecuters of the Palestinians were the Arabs themselves.

The way things are going they will be flying the ISIS flag over 10 Downing Street and Buckingham Palace.

PC kid gloves is never good for a nation.

He was being sarcastic. His point is that the Palestinians have plenty to answer for.

Ooops..... Lol

Having read it again, I can see he was being humerously facetious.

I do apologise Ezzra.

I'll leave it up anyway, I thought it was a pretty good rant, and hopefully it will pre-emp any bleeding hearts that are surely to wander along.

The whole WESTERN world have been brainwashed by the anti-semitic progressive liberal mainstream media..... Well the stupid ones have been anyway.

There are plenty of reports from Palestinians who say their life is HELL under Hamas, and they are much more afraid of THEM than the Israelis.

I suggest you put down the New York Times or the Washington Post and turn off your Fox News and go to youtube and get yourself educated.

If the Palestinians laid down their weapons, they could have peace tomorrow, if Israel laid down its arms, they would be slaughtered.

The Palestinians do not want peace, they want EVERY Jew dead..... Not Israelis..... JEWS. They have said it countless times.

When your favoured strategy is to attack your enemy while holding children and elderly people in front of you as a shield under threat of execution, and said shield gets hit, then who is guilty of the war crimes?..... You or your enemy.

Secondly, in a conflict situation, what counts as 'disproportionate'? You are in a war situation for god's sake. He who hits hardest wins.