6 hours ago, Presnock said:

arrest her, put her in jail for 3 months and if still unable to pay fine, an additional period after which deport her and not let her back in.

Ah yes, because clearly the only sane, proportionate response to someone unable to cover a few hundred baht for their food is to arrest, jail, deportation, and black-list them....

..... Perfectly rational. Not in the least bit the musing of someone mentally deranged and seriously unhinged...

Tell me - when the chemical fog lifts, be it booze, pills, or whatever cocktail you’ve overindulged in... do you ever scroll back through your posts and think, “Good grief, which lobotomised halfwit typed that?” 

21 minutes ago, Tomtomtom69 said:

 

I get alcohol delivered on the rare occasions I buy it online...but there are only a handful of merchants which will deliver. Supermarkets used to but stopped in 2021 after Prayuth changed the law. 

Yep... I think more to the point of Jacks question is.. 

... "Oh shoot...  we're getting low on 'Midori'...  how will I keep up with the demand for 'fuzzy navels ?....    which local shop can I hit up for delivery... ??....."

14 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

So true. 

I love Thailand and bit critical of folk complaining.

However seriously...in Oz I can order online and for modest total amount $ can have home delivery.

 

I can here..  but that needs to be in advance...     I even found out how in Dubai during quarantine in the middle of Covid !!! 

Just now, DrJack54 said:

Thanks for the reply.

The tgf and I just chit chat.

There is mar/par couple doors up which is option. Just drop the fancy beer and get basics from them.

Good friends with that shop so it's an option. Also no 2-5pm rubbish

I'm central Bangkok.

In that case - Wine Pro for Wine...   Thought I'm not sure 'they' do Instant delivery, Grab can pick up for you etc...

(though I wouldn't want 8000 bahts worth of wine on a Grab bike - best to leave delivery of that to their responsibility)

We've found solutions loads of times - but its usually when running an empty fridge at 10pm etc.. 

We've even hit up a WineConnection in the past - put in an order and they used Grab to deliver.

25 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Can I bump this with similar question.

We have a 7/11 across the road.

Really helpful staff.

So the Thai partner would ring them and place order (before 2pm) and pay online.

The 7/11 a little bit later would deliver boxes to front door.

Brilliant.

Now they just informed her...need to come to shop in person and pay and leave with purchase. They do assist trolley across road 

In the past when having parties etc...   We've taken the 'informal route' of using Grab... 

..  Getting them to pick up a load of booze, and then deliver it.

They'll ride around (or usually already know of a place) where they can circumnavigate the 2-5pm rule... 

That said, after midnight - I've never tried... 

25 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

So finally my question: does anyone have suggestion for delivery.

We get bulk water delivery etc but the issue is with alcohol.

Ta.

Where are you ?

There are solutions everywhere when digging, someone will know someone... 

Even if you get the 'contact' (i.e. Line) of a local Mom and Pop shop and see if they can deal with direct delivery on an informal basis. 

Or... Just going back to the 'Grab' Guys (if you have them nearby).

5 hours ago, hotchilli said:

That's not a sight I want to see in real life...

You never herd about the young lady from Ealing ?....   

11 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

25 years old, too young to be a bar manager??? Really? He is at his prime for that kind of work. If owner, he could have ran great business since he was 16 or 18 years old.

Judging out of your post, I guess you not been very successful in life.

I don't know why you got so many 'thumbs down' for that post - your comments...  Yes, you and I usually argue a lot - but I judge each post and thread based on their merit - you are spot on with the above comment

2 minutes ago, Asean Tiger said:

Not my point butfidelity (Maxell XLSll, etc.) recorded off a HiFi casette deck was good not but never close to Reel to Reel.

The Walkman squelched the ghetto blasters in public. Now people's  personal pastimes are often rudely unavoidable or even a danger. Innocent persons are literally killed because of texting on the roads.

When I was younger, a close friend was killed because a guy was changing over his tape in his car and drifted head on into her... 

We can apply bias however we want... but the same careless idiots will do the same careless things whatever the tech....  

2 minutes ago, Asean Tiger said:

Unbelievable but now we must have announcements on airplanes and trains to not use bluetooth speakers or watch inappropriate content on a  tablet or laptop

Good point - On a flight very recenelty an irritable cretin played videos on his phone with his seat partner...  for all around to hear...  it took all my reserve not to speak up.

2 minutes ago, Asean Tiger said:

Have you ever attended a dinner in the 1970s where some of your friends spent most of the evening reading a newspaper or playing board games by themselves? It would have been unthinkable. Now it is considered acceptable behavior

Again, agree...   But, that depends on the circles with whom we 'interact'...    

Even recently, I've never attended social event (wedding etc) or a dinner party, or regular dinner at a friends where any friends spent more than fleeting moment glancing at a message.... phones mostly used for photos...  

People still have manners... but those who don't never had and never will.

On 5/25/2025 at 5:09 PM, KhunBENQ said:

Even after watching again I am not 100% sure but seems like he smashed the window of his own house. With keys in motorbike 😁

Thats as I understand it.

He left his wallet (money), house keys, etc in his motorcycle...  Then the BiB took it as it was parked alongside every other bike, albeit illegally, as every other bike was - he just fell foul of a crack-down....

So.. why didn't he recover his bike that evening ? possible ? did he even know where to go ?

... Perhaps not, so not wanting to sleep on the street for the night and having no money - he broke into his own accommodation - which was probably rented, hence he probably had to pay for damages.

Nothing more to see here, no drama - apart from a couple of the usual "hang-him, deport him... I wanna be the only special farang here" crowd... 

All of that said: surely he had his phone with him and can make Digital payments. 

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I've nearly had to break into my own place a couple of times.

I've gone out, forgot my keys, got home, wife is fast asleep, no amount of door knocking or phone her is waking her from her slumber...  I thought I'd have to go and get a hotel for the night (which would have looked really dodgy)... 

 We now have a digital lock - can't forget the keys.

12 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Go back to using a paper map, oh joy.  Unless nav toys  aren't included.  Though I never had one.

 

Really don't use the smartphone much.  Have plenty of camera, but it is handy for snaps.   GPS use mainly.  Could live without a phone, as long as laptops are allowed.  

 

If talking no internet, then that's a who different ball game.  Researching 'shopping', all is so much easier with internet.

 

If not have a smartphone, wouldn't really phase me.

Where would you find your 'charging station' when out on the road ?

... and then how would you pay for it ?

People like you and I would come unstuck quite quickly without a smart phone - they are integrated into our lives.

But as you wrote - IF no internet, then then a smart phone becomes somewhat moot.... 

57 minutes ago, connda said:

Without our smartphones, where would we be in 2025?

 

A hell of a lot happier.

Why ???   are YOU unhappy because of your smart phone ?

2 hours ago, GreasyFingers said:

6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Smart phones are amazing devices...   My life has become far more convenient because of them. 

It hasn't changed, I'm still able to socialise as much as I ever wanted to, they're great for arranging sporting events (various football and sports groups).

Awesome for keep in touch with the family overseas, with my Wife here when out and about separately through the day.

Information at our finger tips... Cinema tomorrow ? sure...  info at our finger tips.

 

The social media aspect - I think is great: I love to see how my friends are getting on in the UK when they post photos of their family, one of their children has reached a milestone.

 

As far as the toxic side of social media - It ONYL influences us as much as we allow it it - So have any of the Snapchat, Insta, Facebook,  X on your phone etc if you want...  I can't be bothered with that stuff, other can and thats up to them. 

 

 

 

 

 

Did you do any of those things before the smart phone. It was possible.

Some, I couldn't...  but I'd have to arrange my life a different way.

Can I live without a Smartphone ??... Most certainly... Do want to ? Absolutely not....   

But, as with anything, pretty much everything.... there comes a level of responsibility, whether it be drinking beer, eating food, using a smart device or driving... 

... The worst, the most sociably inept, the poorerst mannered should not be dictataing our opinions on these devices. 

....  I don't judge restaurants because some buffoons have no dining habits. 

.... I don't judge beer because some people can't take their alcohol and act like idiots.

.... I don't judge cars because some idiots drink drive.

.... I don't judge smart devices because some fail to use them to their advantage or fail to control their use.

I caught my son trying to eat and use his iPad at the same time yesterday - we had serious words.

We go out for dinner regularly, phones off the table (or at least 'face down' if one of us are expecting a call).

My Son is on his iPad now...  Chilled relaxed, watching his iPad (YouTube) how to make a football... 

He'd previously cooked his own dinner (he wanted to - and cooked Tomato and mozzarella gnocchi bake)

I'm on this forum...

Everything is about balance... 

3 hours ago, pomchop said:

I am so tired of people who want to show me all sorts of pics and videos on their phones ; even when I try to be polite and look at one or two then try and change subject and look away they go on and on and on. 

 

HINT:  I do not care or want to see all your girlfriends or kids or grandkids or pics of your cat  or cars etc.

Dream on - With that attitude - I don't think you have much to worry about... not many people are likely to endear themselves to you and open up personally with photos of family.

2 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Smartphones and mobile phones are the worst inventions of the past decades... Even kids don't learn anything anymore about socializing and playing outside with friends, as their mobile is glued to their fingers and eyes.. not only kids adults too and talk with someone, 10 out  of 10 doesn't hear and/or understand  what you are talking about... even in the traffic everybody can't miss their phone for 1 minute.. Glued with fingers and eyes on their phones

Yes they do... The issue in your examples are not the smart phones - the issue terrible standards of parenting.

iPads are incredible education devices, outstanding - but they can also become abused IF parents are careless and lazy.

At the weekend my Son gets his few hours on his iPad - he keeps in touch and plays games with friends who have since moved overseas, its lovely.

On school days my son leaves home early in the morning, does 2 hours of ECA (football, basketball, swimming, craft, etc) which usually involves his friends too...   then they disperse to their homes for they are not in the same living community (its a long day) - so its not the same as when I was a kid and could hang out at the local sports field and get muddy... 

...  these devices have helped maintain social interaction... 

...  I'm amazed at what my son has picked up from videos and online learning for run - but he has to be guided on some of the dumb stuff I don't want him watching.

Regarding critics of such devices (where children are concerned) - it seems the most vocal nay-sayers are boomers without children looking down on generations below them and picking out the worse they can see.

Personally, I'm in a few football groups, I hear guys saying, "I can't join, I deleted my facebook, it was taking over my life" ... I can't believe people are so weak. 

Its this topic really 'just about smart phones'... 

Or is it about the 'tech' age - where most of us have access to Information and convenience at our fingertips through computers, iPads and Smart Phones ??

All of the criticisms of smart phones could be levied at any of the technological devices we've become accustomed to using. 

8 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Doing banking without smartphones is easy - card, ATM, cash etc (and secure) - no problemo with or without.

It is ? I've just done some Banking on my smart phone - took 5 mins while enjoying a coffee... 

No need to go to a bank, use an ATM card...   I have cash in my wallet I haven't touched for months.

8 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Getting the news without smartphones is also easy - no problemo with or without .

 

Stopping the negatives of Social Media - that is a good reason to get rid of smartphones. But it aint gonna happen.

IMO - the negatives of 'Social Media' are easy enough to stop - by not paying attention to it and being able to identify the trolls and click-baiters for what they are.

Sites like this are different, they're the equivalent of watching netflix or reading a book, passing the time in a different way...   we can be reading the (real) news, and discussing some local event at the same time... 

But, thats social media - and its accessible without smart phones on a laptop.

Smart phones are amazing devices...   My life has become far more convenient because of them. 

It hasn't changed, I'm still able to socialise as much as I ever wanted to, they're great for arranging sporting events (various football and sports groups).

Awesome for keep in touch with the family overseas, with my Wife here when out and about separately through the day.

Information at our finger tips... Cinema tomorrow ? sure...  info at our finger tips.

The social media aspect - I think is great: I love to see how my friends are getting on in the UK when they post photos of their family, one of their children has reached a milestone.

As far as the toxic side of social media - It ONYL influences us as much as we allow it it - So have any of the Snapchat, Insta, Facebook,  X on your phone etc if you want...  I can't be bothered with that stuff, other can and thats up to them. 

15 hours ago, Emdog said:

just thinking about this.... thought crossed my mind that if the mall and store were named, it would increase business....

Why ?..    is there anyone out there who doesn't know this is MBK ?

I just want to dissect your comments because of the silliness throughout.

22 minutes ago, Merrill said:

So we managed to live many thousands of years without this problem, just the normal cold and flu. Now we have the Tech. Flu now has a name and personality.

Throughout human history, pandemics and deadly infectious diseases have occurred regularly, far more severe than a cold or flu. The Black Death (14th century), Spanish Flu (1918), smallpox, tuberculosis, and others killed tens of millions. The idea that we only dealt with mild viruses until now is simply incorrect.

Assigning a name to a virus (like COVID-19) isn't about giving it a “personality” but about identifying and tracking specific pathogens. Viruses are always named and studied in modern epidemiology. It's part of how science works to understand and manage outbreaks effectively and the vary in their severity with antigenic drift.

22 minutes ago, Merrill said:

Masks that have holes 400 times bigger than the largest virus known to man become essential,  Small shops that are far safer in the event of a viral outbreak become Taboo, and the Super Store becomes the norm.

The idiocy with this one is astonishing: While individual viruses are smaller than the gaps in standard cloth or surgical masks, viruses don't travel alone. They hitch a ride in respiratory droplets, which are large enough to be blocked or reduced significantly by masks. Also, N95 and equivalent masks filter out over 95% of particles down to 0.3 microns, very effective against airborne virus-containing droplets.

Policies during lockdowns often considered essential services and the ability to manage crowd control. Large stores could implement distancing, one-way systems, and sanitation more easily than small ones. It wasn't ideal, but it was a trade-off made under pressure and uncertainty, very easy for the Monday morning Quater-backers to criticise - but as you have highlighted you lack the technical knowledge for critical thought, even with 20/20 hindsight.

22 minutes ago, Merrill said:

The greatest transfer of wealth in human History occurred from 2020 /2022. Fear the name of the game, will get the majority to do anything. 2 meters waiting outside only to go in a deep breathing the Air from all the past days customers, as it is NPT cost-effective to expel cooled or heated air. You just can't make it up. Heads Up Folks, just saying 

While it's true that billionaires saw increased wealth during this period, similar wealth shifts have occurred across history: e.g. post-war booms, the industrial revolution, or the 2008 financial crisis bailouts. It’s not uniquely unprecedented, though it certainly deserves scrutiny. Government interventions also provided massive support to workers, renters, and businesses.

As far as fear is concerned, that can be a factor, but compliance was also driven by solidarity, concern for the vulnerable, and trust in public health. Not everyone blindly followed orders - there was widespread debate, protest, and legal challenge throughout. People aren’t mindless; they were reacting to a real threat.

As far as two meter distancing is concerned, while ventilation was an issue in many places, distancing still reduced transmission risk, especially when people were not confined together for long. Many establishments did invest in better airflow and HEPA filters. The point of distancing wasn’t to be perfect, but to reduce overall viral load exposure (again, something which requires a certain degree of understanding for the concept to sink in).

Thus: all in all, the measures taken were based on real-time scientific advice, evolving data, and a genuine attempt to save lives in unprecedented circumstances. Mistakes were made, but suggesting it was all absurd or intentionally manipulated oversimplifies a deeply complex situation - and outs you as a rather unintelligent critic appealing to emotion rather than intelligence. 

1 hour ago, Gottfrid said:

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

Why on earth would you bring your Wife into this ?  ... if she's chosen you she's likely well below my standards, she may well be a lovely person, I have no idea, but I'll respectfully decline....   

 

 

 

Decline what? Have somebody given you an offer? Deluded?

6 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Richard, I already have a wife, and I don´t swing that way.

You mentioned you have wife which quite surprises me to be honest, and that 'you' don't swing that way - just letting you know you should probably keep your wife out of this, its inappropriate and I'm not interested - be more respectful of her....