richard_smith237

100% Agree... But 'saving face' is not soley a Thai or an Asian custom, many threads on here we'll see guys arguing black is blue just to save face when they are so clearly wrong - its as amusing as it is childish. Regarding, food, restaurants, service quality, issues etc... there is a right way to handle everything and if we go about 'our side' of the conversation correctly, the 'other-side' of the conversation should fall into place... ... If it doesn't they why worry... pay, leave, don't go back !!!... Places rely on return custom and its why places remain in custom.... ... This is particularly more important in area's of high repeat footfall, such as many many restaurants in Bangkok that rely on repeat trade - We go back to many of the same restaurants because the food is reliable and staff excellent.... ... In area's of high tourist footfall, the standards are usually lower... I suspect this for a number of reasons... Transient / seasonal staff... and the owners don't care, they've become jaded and they know there is little repeat trade.

It has a lot to do with the context of 'YOUR' thread Bob.... His point was about quality of service and not accepting poor quality - this is exactly what your thread is about....

Not quite so for Bob... "Laugh and the world laughs at him" "Weep and the world weeps laughing at him"

...why do you think that is? regards, bob. Numerous reasons... in no specific order. 1) Being a Waiter here is a career job - not usually pursued by the brightest, but good restaurants look after their quality staff and treat them very well. 2) Being a Waiter is boring - its mind numbing, they are often treated poorly by poor restarants. 3) Waiting here is paid terribly low, what can we expect ?? 4) Being a Waiter in Europe is a 'part time job' - they are usually students or working towards something else, they're generally smarter. 5) Language issue - a lot of waiters in tourist area's are often not Thai and may not understand us clearly when we speak Thai to them (even our Thai wives, hence the mistakes). In short - if we are expecting the consistent same standards here that we would in decent restaurants back in the West, we'd be stupid.... meanwhile, the crappy restaurants here and the West have fairly crappy service.

Its very very dependent... ... Where I am, what food it is, my expectations and how much I'm paying. The last times I complained about the quality of food somewhere - I first called over the bill. Paid it. Then called the manager and explained the issue... Telling him, I'm not complaining because I want a discount... I'm complaining because there is a genuine issue. In most cases... If its a cheap Thai restaurant and a steak doesn't come out right - I'll accept it. If its an expensive international restaurant and a steak comes out over cooked - I'll return it. If its an expensive international restaurant and a steak comes out slightly undercooked - I wont mind. If the food comes out more spicy than expected, I'll give it a go. I think a lot of the time, there is a way to complain or say something is not right that can be respectful and get the point across.... If the restaurant does not receive the complaint / advice - pay up walk straight out, thats it. ------------ The biggest issue I face is the wrong dish coming out... Wife orders or I order, we both understand whats been said.... the waitress makes a mistake, forgets, brings the wrong thing, misunderstands etc etc... but we always get them to repeat and even then the wrong dish comes out !!!.... the mind boggles... ... if its something we are ok with eating, we'll have it... If not, it goes back... Simple really, nothing personal, nothing to get upset about... ... mistakes happen, they're more common in restaurants here.

Vise exempt entry requires proof of onward travel... Airlines do check for this. Every time I fly (back to Thailand), I'm usually using a return leg of a flight. I also have two passports, sometimes I'm in the departing country with my passport which does not have my Visa.... The check-in crew have always asked if I have a Visa or return flight... I then remember to show them my other passport which has the visa. This implies to me that when the can't find a Visa they want one of two things: 1) Us to show them / present them [check in staff] with a Visa 2) Show onward travel Many have said their experience varies with this - but with certainty, in my experience, IF the airline things I am on a one way (or last leg of a ticket) and they don't see my Visa, they want proof of either onward travel or a Visa.

Thanks for the correction…. 👍🏻

Depends... I think the E-Tourist Visa would give them an extra 30 days... And a return or onward ticket is required with the E-Visa I believe.

Perhaps the check-in staff have become wise to the fake-onward-ticket sites.... Visa Exempt: Entry up to 60 days. E-Tourist Visa: Entry 60 days + 30 day extension If I'm not mistaken, both Visa Exempt entry and E-Tourist Visa require proof of onward travel.

CCTV footage not enough then ? How very nice of them... not arresting him for dangerous driving then !!!...

Sometimes they have no idea they are actually in the wrong, even in the most obvious of circumstances... Yesterday I had a very very near miss.... as I was turning left out of my moo-baan, a motorcycle swerved into the on-coming lane (to turn right) into the moo-baan entrance I was exiting (the MC looked like a delivery rider).... effectively, he'd cut the corner of the turn and we nearly had a collision.... ... Our car would have been out of action for a week or so while the dents were being fixed, headlights replaced etc - We'd have had to pay for a rental to take our son to school and get around.... I'm quite sure (just a guess though) that his vehicle would have had no insurance and our inconvenience (getting a spare car while ours was fixed) would not be covered... .... All because an idiot wanted to cut a corner without looking.... It truly astonishes me how so many here will drive without looking 'properly' then want to blame the other party because the other party were 'there' (correctly so) but the idiot just didn't pay attention... Observational skills and self preservation really are at an all time low here... whether drivers or MC riders...

One other reason, the driver consistently breaks traffic laws, thus they are afraid that a dashcam could incriminate them. I think we all 'have to break a traffic law' from time to time... ... If I do something that incriminates me... the SD card will conveniently disappear !!! We could go down the rabbit hole of blaming each other from a written description here... But some of the markings and junctions are quite flawed.... we have no option but to cross a white line etc.... or change lanes... etc

Up to you as they say... So.. Why would you ??... For legal protection in the event of an incident and contested findings where a dash-cam could have provided proof... So... why would you ??? If you don't know the answer to that, then you haven't really thought about it... The only 'sensible' reason not to use a dash-cam in your car is that in some countries privacy laws prevent it.

My Brother in Law (UK) leaves it in his bag on silent - I think they have a 'driving mode' that limits notifications and calls when it detects you are driving (obviously as a passenger you could over-ride this). I just have my phone on silent all the time... and when driving, the car play links nicely for the maps, but I still don't want to bother with 'notifications' that come up on the Dash-display which IMO is just as bad as reading a phone !!!.... I don't like talking (hands free) on the phone while driving either, I think that detracts from concentration.... Wife seems to mostly drive while on the phone and I hate it, I can see how much it distracts her....

I think you've done that one before..... But... In reality you might be right... for some reason when people get in a car here an 'F-You' switch gets turned on and a usually polite and non-confrontational people become self-centred and selfish... Still, I see improvements in some areas... but the simple issue is that crossing a road anywhere 'should' require full caution, but in Thailand that 100% caution is essential because for the most part road users are completely indifferent to the safety of pedestrians.

Classy.... You 'hope' that someone suffers in such a manner that they have to suck their food through a straw for a year..... You're just as classless as the fool who gets drunk and makes a nuisance of himself...

Oh dear.... Your little geographically-challenged heart seems to have stuffed up !!!... where exactly do you think Thailand’s freeways are? This isn’t the United States. And if your feeble grasp of terminology led you to believe freeway is some sort of interchangeable Americanism for motorway, then, as already pointed out (in numerous posts in this thread), you’re wrong twice. It wasn’t a motorway either. As for your your use of the word idiot - it’s quite amusing how you’ve inadvertently become the embodiment of your own insult but seasoned it with your own element of nastiness and crassness.

It's a flyover, over a Motorway that is in Thailand... 'Thai motorway flyover'... Its not a motorway - its a road going 'over a motorway'... a flyover... over a motorway...

There's surely enough evidence in all of this to not only remove his license permanently, but also give him a custodial sentence for is continued and repeated reckless endangerment of other motorists.... The only real surprise is that this guy has not killed people on the roads already.

No..shhh.... Sherlock !!!

The lesson - never to become complacent when driving and riding - its too easy for an accident to happen.

I always found it quite ridiculous that to deposit 'cash' into my own account I had to provide not only my Bank Book but also my ID.... I can understand it more for over the counter withdrawals... but was always somewhat flummoxed at the need for a deposit. I suspect its perhaps more to do with avoiding mistakes and putting the money into an incorrect account.... and as far as ID is concerned, thats just a 'legacy thing'... can't look at a bank clerk without being asked to show ID....

Good info thanks - I'll look at that.

It always amazes me how some are so reluctant to do their own basic research, when such information is so readily to hand.

Qatar (as a country) political and financial support to Hamas is one reason to avoid their flag-ship carrier.... I'd agree...