Our Man in the Tropics

22 minutes ago, BritTim said:

If, for whatever reason, you cannot risk letting your embassy know you are here, the embassy letter confirming income will obviously not be an option. As @ubonjoe informed you, many immigration offices, in the absence of the letter, want to see 12 months of transfers for an extension of stay based on income. They may or may not relax the requirement if you have proof of transfers for each month you have been here even though less than one year. I understand that you do not want to hear this, and feel it is unfair, but you either follow the rules set by your local immigration office or use an agent or leave Thailand.

 

My embassy & consulate know very well that I am here ;

Indeed,- I had to correct them inside & outside the premises on mal-behavior more than once.

And,- atimes successfully so.

 

Still,- it would be proper that I avoid contacting them for income letter request ;

Not least because I wish to avoid them self-humiliating themselves in providing it for me ;

And,- it FREE of cost to me because of my special circumstances ;

And,- that established by precedents to me.

Other than the prohibitive costs for me in travelling to, & fro, Bangkok, & staying overnight etc.

Magnanimity is a virtue I refuse to flout even in C-19...demic chaotic times ;

 

I very much welcome quality relevant information even if I feel, or accordingly "know", that the implications of the information is "unfair" to me & my little family.

 

Thanks for ur thoughtful reply BritTim.

 

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Apologies to u too for delay in responding ;

Again,- my device & internet connection, are acting-up.

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RICIPROCAL RIGHTS [ GIVEN TO LOS IMMIGRANTS ] FOR FALANGS START WITH OUR CONSULATES BEING RIGHTEOUS TO ITS CITIZENS

 

Regards,

Our Man in the Tropics

 

5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

What is your nationality. If from the UK, US or Australia they do not do them. Most other will issue them.

 

Many office want a 12 months of transfers. The immigration order allowing them issued in 2018 states 2 is enough for the first extension application but most offices want 12 months of transfers.

That police order was rescinded in August of 2014 when order 327/2557 went into effect.

 

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1_1_

I prefer not to disclose my nationality to the forum ;

Suffice to say that it is neither of UK nor USA nor Australia.

My own Dept. of Foreign Affairs [ generic name ] are renowned [ too polite a word ] worldwide for being trucculent, & worse, to righteous "non-connected" -- & moreso when vulnerable -- indigenous citizens ;

So,- I prefer to avoid approaching them.

And,- I wish to avoid them being privy to my details.

 

1_2_

All proofs from Thai bank are very clear that my monthly funds is :

a_

my personal income only [ not joint account & for my receiving only ]

b_

sent directly from foreign country AND not earned in Thailand

c_

regular amount in that foreign currency

d_

now above THB 40k

 

2_

My mention of some 3 months of this over-the-threshold income was not objected to as being too few a number of months for 12 Mnt. Extension.

i.e.

it was reasonably understood thus as being sufficient number of Mnt.s for this Immigration office.

 

3_

Thank u for this update ;

That police order* was rescinded in August of 2014 when order 327/2557 went into effect

*777/2551

 

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Apologies for delay in replying ;

My device is acting up.

 

 

24 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Are you the legal parent of you child by way of marriage or legitimization of your parenthood?

Does your embassy still issue a proof of income document that could be used to prove the 40k baht income?

How many months of transfers from abroad do you have that you can prove?

1_

Legal Parent of my Thai Child by way of Legitimization of Parenthood

They have copies of all the proof of that, & more, at this very office.

 

2_

Do not know if Embassy still issue Proof of Income document

But,- proof from Thai bank -- & a branch directly next to them & which they use I am led to understand -- was not objected to ;

Also,- proof from this Thai bank brand was accepted for initial Non-Immigrant Visa "O" based on Staying with My Thai Child was accepted by Thailand Consulate at issuing Consulate [ Savanakhet, Laos ].

 

3_

3 or 4 transfers from abroad ;

Thus beyond the minimum as specified by Thailand Police Order 777/2551

 

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The seemingly-so main decision-maker [ female ] at the Thai immigration office said on my initial visit :

this office will not give 12 Mnt. EFPOS ahead of learning what the Thai Government says over next few months

8-)

 

30 minutes ago, BritTim said:

If applying for a 12-month permission to stay based on income, try to get a letter from your embassy confirming your income. At many immigration offices, they will not entertain extensions based on income, from those who ought to be able to get an embassy income letter, without it.

I informed the immigration office on 1st visit that I can get proof of income ;

Proof from bank was not objected to.

Indeed,- the proof from the bank is very clear that it comes from outside of Thailand & as 1 amount only per month.

 

Still,- the immigration office initially said that they want me to apply for 60 day Extension-for-Permission-of-Stay [ EFPOS ] ONLY.

 

Super big problem -- incl. Income for Thai family -- if foreign parent leave Thailand & try to return.

Immigration knows that my little familyis depending on me for survival.

 

Why not apply "Rule of Law" to the righteous foreign weaker party who fulfills the criteria by allowing them to apply for "12 Mnt." EFPOS ?

15 minutes ago, treetops said:

You might want to re-write that without all the bolding, capitals, abbreviations, dashes, underscores etc. if you want an informed response.  It's too difficult to follow the way it is.

I accept ur opinion as being valid about my post not being a fluid read ;

Not being fluid in the lyrical sense.

 

But, because I wish to be stringently abiding to THE FACTS ONLY & avoid confusion & also to edify novices per the terms & possibilities Re ; Thailand's Visas & Permission-of-Stays & Extension-of-Permission-of-Stays, which I have gleaned very much so from knowledgeable posters on this blog [ e.g. Ubon Joe ],- I feel need to use the Style of Language, & the formatting, which I do in this blog per such matters.

 

I trust that this presentation is most appreciated by those with legal, & technical, & otherwise smart, mind-set per such matters.

 

Of course,- I have different choicest writing approaches for other respective matters.

 

Thanks for replying anyway treetops ;

I viewed it as not a troll reply anyway.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Our Man in the Tropics

Dear Fellow Thaivisa.com Posters,

 

I would greatly appreciate yer positive constructive relevant answers to the question I pose below report

 

REPORT ;

1_

Non-Immigrant Visa Type "O" Visa obtained PRIOR TO C-19 ...demic ;

Basis / Reason ;

"Staying with Thai Child"

I received Permission-to-Stay of 90 Days upon presenting my passport at Thailand land-border checkpoint.

 

2_

Upon "Hello" visit, recently, to my Local Immigration Office :

 

2_1_

said :

do NOT submit Application for Extension-of-Permission-to-Stay to get 12 Mnt.s based on :

A_

Staying with my Thai Child

PLUS

B_

my per Mnt. Personal Income" being at, or above, THB 40k

BUT RATHER :

2_1_1_

apply only for plain 60 Extension-of-Permission-to-Stay,

&

2_1_2_

within that 60 day window period apply for "12 Mnt." Extension-of-Permission-to-Stay.

 

2_2_

accepted -- upon my specific rhetorical question -- that foreigner can get "12 Mnt." Extension-of-Permission-to-Stay based on :

A_

Staying with my Thai Child

PLUS

B_

"my per Mnt. Personal Income" being at, or above, THB 40k ;

But,- they reiterated that they would NOT entertain such an application from me, but rather they invite me to apply for plain-old "60" day Extension-of-Permission-to-Stay ONLY.

 

2_3_

bring Birth Certicate for my Thai child [ even though they have record of I having done so previously during visit to their office by me with my Thai child & the child's mother ]* for that Application for 60 Day Extension-of-Permission-to-Stay  ;

 

*That "family-visit" + "showing of Birth Certificate" upon the Immigration Office's request

 

3_

Yesterday,- I applied for 60 Day Extension-of-Permission-to-Stay.

I received the 60 Day Extension-of-Permission-to-Stay.

 

4_

Upon my question of "when to return to Immigration Office ?",- I was told :

 

4_1_

return within the final 2 weeks of the 60 days of Extension-of-Permission-to-Stay.

 

BUT -- BUT -- BUT

4_2_

keep abreast of all Thailand Government notices to foreigners meanwhile ;

Because,- I -- with a general mass of foreigners -- may be directed to leave the country.

 

4_3_

my Visa is finished now

I replied that I think my Visa is finished as soon as I am allowed to enter Thailand with Permission-to-Stay.

 

NOTE ;

No mention by these very staff, so familiar with my circumstance, to apply for "12 Mnt." Extension of Stay when I get the 60 Day Extension-of-Permission-to-Stay as originally advised during their direction on initial visit [ above ].

 

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QUESTION ;

GVEN MY LOCAL IMMIGRATION OFFICE'S MOST RECENT RESPONSE,- HOW -- DURING THE NEXT 58 DAYS WITHIN THAILAND -- CAN I OBTAIN "12 MNT." EXTENSION-OF-PERMISSION-TO-STAY THAT IS BASED ON :

A_

I STAYING WITH MY THAI CHILD

PLUS

B_

I HAVING PER MNT. PERSONAL INCOME AT, OR ABOVE, THB 40k ?

 

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NOTE ;

I have found Thai civil servants to be exemplary in attitude to me a foreigner despite my own civil servants** being typically most hostile to "non-connected" indiginous citizens of my country.

**

I acknowledge my own civil servants are typically very facilitating to non-indigenous persons in, & outside, my country ;

So,- I suppose they typically are not the baddest they can be

????

 

 

Thanking yee all in advance for yer most kind helpful replies.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Our Man in the Tropics

Dear Thaivisa.com Posters, & otherwise Readers,

 

 

While web-searching for other info.,- I found this free online "Dictionary of Automotive Terms" ;

 

https://www.motorera.com/dictionary/index.htm

 

e.g.

 

https://www.motorera.com/dictionary/aa.htm

 

 

Here is hoping that this link is of benefit to yee.

 

 

Regards,

 

Our Man in the Tropics

I wish to thank all posters above for very helpful responses to this topic.

 

Update ;

 

@ Kwasaki, & Transam, & Don Mega ;

 

The costs extra -- postage & insurance & inport fees inter alia -- to the retail price mean that sourcing replacement headlights abroad to be prohitiatively expensive, & prone to misfortune logistically & customs-wise, for me ;

Anyway,- here is Mr. Monopolize's amazon.com result just at time of composing this post ;

 

https://www.amazon.com/Mazda-Tribute-Replacement-Headlight-Assembly/dp/B0024NSUAI

 

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@ Don Mega ;

 

I will re-activate enquiries about applicability of Ford Escape Headlights offered currently on Lazada.co.th fitting this Mazda Tribute ;

It often is wise not to accept validity of 1st or other early "No" answers.

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

@ Hauptmann UK ;

 

U brought to attention vital point about L.H.-drive versus R.H.-drive being critical considerations in selecting headlights ;

I had not thought of that.

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

@ Kildonan ;

 

I paid THB 300 to bush-tree good & honest mechanic who was enthusiastic in his promise that he could - using wet & dry paper & lubricants inter alia -- restore the condition of thee lenses to their former glory ;

Result was no appreciable difference whatsoever.

 

I suspect that mine are too much decayed in lenses [ very opaque ] that they are irretrievable.

 

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@ Bansgr ;

 

I also considering the bulbs issue

 

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@ Hauptsmann UK ;

 

I still have open mind for an impressive offer to restore condition of the head-lights lenses.

 

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Lancastershire Lad ;

 

U make good points

 

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A "Used-Parts-Seller"-cum-"-Garage" is offering me a pair of -- I guess OEM rather than aftermarket -- Mazda Tribute [ or Ford Escape ] "U-S-E-D" headlights for the princely sum of THB 7,000 ;

AND,- fitting would cost, I expect, at least THB 1,000 extra.

He describes them as "Zenon".

The outer lens of the Headlight assembly is much more transparent than mine ;

Mine are very opaque ;

And,- I think that they are not capable of being restored to transparent condition ; 

But,- I may be wrong with that pronosis.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Seller of Ford Escape Year 2004 Headlights offered on Lazada.co.th says in respnse to my question that they cannot fit into Mazda Tribute Year 2003

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I GREATLY STRUGGLED TO COMPOSE THIS PREPLY AGAINST MY COMPUTER O& / OR INTERNET ACTING UP

Dear Fellow Thaivisa.com Posters,

 

 

I would greatly appreciate yer most helpful constructive replies to the following question ;

 

Where in Thailand can I source, & have then properly fitted, a pair [ L.H.S. & R.H.S. ] of "good + cheap" new after-market headlights to replace the O.E.M. ones in my Mazda Tribute Year year 2003 ?

 

 

Thanking all yee who read, & especially who reply accordingly to, this thread.

 

Regards,

 

Our Man in the Tropics

1_

Are there good & cheap Solar Panel equiped with rechargeable battery Video Cameras -- Front & Rear & 2 Sides [ 2 opposing Video Cameras per each Side ] with Wireless Connection [ e.g. Bluetooth ] to a Touch-Screen Device [ Smartphone or Tablet ( Android or MS Windows or Apple or Linux based ) ] ?

 

2_

Perhaps the Solar Panel equiped with rechargeable battery Video Cameras can be :

2_1_

fixed to Exterior of vehicle by Magnet or Peel-back Adhesive Strip [ easily removable from vehicle surface by some common cheap proprietry solvent ] & / or Screws

2_2_

fixed to Interior of Window by Magnet or Adhesive [ easily removable from vehicle surface by some common cheap proprietry solvent ] & / or Screws ;

But excellently absorb necessary energy to power the system regardless if highest blocking sun-screen film on glass.

 

3_

Some optimum features of Video Camera system for vehicle would I.M.H.O. include :

3_1_

automatic Dark-Vision sensing performance

3_2_

automatic Fog-Vision sensing performance

3_3_

automatic recording when moving object [ person or animal or object ] has entered within choice of perimeters of scope of respective Video Camera

 

 

Ref.

ELM Electronics link 

https://www.elmelectronics.com/help/obd/

 

1_

 

Excerpt "1 of 3"

It is difficult for us to provide an accurate table of this data for you, as most countries set a date for full compliance, and also provide a ‘phase-in’ period in which the OBD requirements increase over time. 

Some do not publish their requirements openly, and some have different requirements for urban and rural areas.

With the help of our users and from published information, we have been able to come up with the following list of dates for light duty vehicles:

 

Note by "Our Man in the Tropics" "1 of 3"

This messy situation per OBD Protocol "Compliance" & "the Recording of said Compliance whereby there is no authoritative reliable source to compile all this" is :

very surprising

very disappointing

 

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2_

 

Excerpt "2 of 3"

Cars and light duty trucks (typically < 14,000 lbs GVW) that were manufactured for sale in the listed country after the date shown will likely work well with our products.

If your vehicle is older than this, or was imported, it may not be OBDII compliant so may not work with our integrated circuits (even if it uses a similar looking connector).

 

Note by "Our Man in the Tropics" "2 of 3"

 

Specifically, ELM Electronics link below serves to make the reader doubtful of On-board Diagnostics 2 [ OBD2 / OBDII ] Protocol --  "_ _ _ which is what ELM ICs support [ ONLY ? ] _ _ _" -- applying to their "car" or "light duty truck [ typically < 14,000 lbs GVW ]" if that vehicle :

 

2_1_

was manufactured for sale in Thailand prior, or during, year 2012

 

 

Note by "Our Man in the Tropics" "2 of 3" ;

I am very surprised at such a late year declared for Thailand.

 

or

 

2_2_

imported *

*

Note by "Our Man in the Tropics" "3 of 3" ;

Obviously with attendent scenario that the vehicle was manufactured for sale in a country prior, or during, a year listed per that respective country or political block [ e.g. EU ] in ELM Electronics link above.

 

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3_

 

Excerpt "3 of 3"

Vehicles that comply with the OBDII standards 

..............................................................

The OBD connector is officially called an SAE J1962 Diagnostic Connector, but is also known by DLC, OBD Port, or OBD connector. It has positions for 16 pins, and looks like this:

 

Many older vehicles use a similar type of connector for communication with modules, but do not comply with the OBDII standards.

 

Simply having a J1962 connector does not mean that the vehicle is OBDII compliant.

Be aware of this when attempting to read vehicle codes

And be aware that you may cause damage to some circuits if you connect the wrong voltages to them.

 

Always look first for a section on OBDII compliance in the owners manual, for a sticker in the engine compartment, or for information on the manufacturer’s web site, to be sure that you are dealing with an OBDII compliant vehicle.

 

Locate the J1962 connector in your vehicle, and determine if there are pins at positions 2, 6, 7, 10, 14 or 15.

Once you know which pins are used and which are not, then determine which standard applies from the following table:

 

Pin 2	Pin 6	Pin 7	Pin 10	Pin 14	Pin 15	Protocol	Use
must have	–	–	must have	–	–	J1850 PWM	ELM320 or ELM327
must have	–	–	–	–	–	J1850 VPW	ELM322 or ELM327
–	–	must have	–	–	may have*	ISO 9141-2 or 14230-4	ELM323 or ELM327
–	must have	–	–	must have	–	ISO 15765-4 (CAN)	ELM327 or ELM329

* not all ISO9141 or ISO14230 vehicles use pin 15 (the ‘L’ line)

 

The above should be considered a good guideline.

The presence or absence of pins in the connector is not an absolute indication though, as only your vehicle manufacturer can say for sure which standards the vehicle was built to.

Pre-2008 Typical Protocols

All new cars (2008+) seem to be going to the faster ISO 15765 (CAN) protocol.

But older vehicles might have used one of several different protocols.

The vehicle manufacturers generally stayed with one protocol

But not always

e.g.

Chrysler started using ISO 9141-2 and then switched to SAE J1850 VPW around MY2000).

 

Typically, you will find the following standards usage for older vehicles:

 

Manufacturer	J1850 PWM (ELM320)	J1850 VPW (ELM322)	ISO9141 ISO14230 (ELM323)	ISO15765 CAN (ELM327 or ELM329)
Acura			X
Chrysler		X	X
Ford	X
General Motors		X
Honda			X
Saturn		X
Subaru			X
Suzuki			X
Toyota			X
Volkswagen			X

 

Actually, beginning with the 2005 model year, some North American vehicles did begin using the ISO 15765-4 (CAN) interface standard, so maybe we should have put some ‘X’s in the last column.

The above should be a good starting point for you, though.

Beginning with the 2008 model year, all North American vehicles were required to use ISO 15765-4 (CAN).

@ OneMoreFalang,

 

I perused some results for search-term ELM327 ;

 

A_

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELM327

 

B_

https://www.elm327.com/

 

C_

https://www.elmelectronics.com/products/ics/obd/#ELM327

 

 

Unfortunately,- ..... :

 

1_

there is for me a rather steep learning-curve to undertake with pursuing the dedicated ELM327 topic at this stage as one having no personal experience of using Motor Vehicle Scanners

2_

Inserting Brand & Model yields no results in B_ elm327.com

 

3_

elmelectronics.com is unimpressively formatted & maintained website

 

4_

this link found within A_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELM327

article advises against using ELM327 "Clones"

 

D_

https://www.scantool.net/forum/index.php?topic=2379.0

 

HOWEVER,- I DO AIM TO RETURN HABITUALLY OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, GETTING UNDERSTANDING ABOUT ELM327

 

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MEANWHILE,- I FOUND THIS ;

E_

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/jsp-obd2-obd2-scanner-obd2-ancel-jp700-obdii-eobd-autel-jp701-autophix-om127-om500-jobd-i207869637-s312936947.html?spm=a2o4m.searchlist.list.2.5b1c6c413qaACH&search=1

 

But, ahead of deciding on preferred Motor Vehicle Scanners for purchase,- I must determine :

 

1_
the particular physical port fitting

 

2_
the implications of the used “replaced” Engine upon the whole matter ;

I do not even know the year of the engine

 

Ref.

The Paperwork given to me for submission to Dept. of Land & Transport :

 

2_1_

it is termed a "Ford" Engine

But,- I wonder do Mazda term their “original” Engines for Tributes as "Mazda"

 

2_2_

it has the Letters AJ ahead of the Hyphen in its Serial No.

Regards,

 

Our Man in the Tropics

 

 

I do not know the business model for the OBD2 Etc. Motor Vehicle Scanners

 

1_

Are the best models loaded with :

 

1_1_

choicest state-of-the-art Interface ?

 

1_2_

choicest info. ?

 

2_

And,- are these best models equiped with free updates of high quality ?

 

3_

Are the best models equiped with software devised in cooperation with the motor vehicle manufacturers ?

 

4_

Is it feasible, & actually more effective & efficient, to use a tablet computer [ Windows 10 ] rather than the small consoles ?

Hmm mmm !

 

I wonder about this ;

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/focom-vcm-obd-pic18f2455-usb-i1061818868-s2371648860.html?spm=a2o4m.searchlist.list.76.fed27225h8FHpK&search=1

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B0779M6D18/ref=acr_dp_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar

12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

ELM327, i.e. this one:

https://www.banggood.com/HHOBD-ELM327-Car-Bluetooth-OBD2-Auto-CAN-BUS-Scanner-Tool-Android-p-913030.html

 

TorqueApp Free or the full version for 150THB

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.prowl.torque&hl=en_US

 

Tested and it works fine

Hi OneMoreFalang,

 

Thank u for ur reply.

 

According to the "Compatibility" Function within the Banggood.com web-page above ;

 

This part is not compatible with 2003-Mazda-Tribute-DX-DX Sport Utility 4-Door-3.0L 2968CC 181Cu. In. V6 GAS DOHC Naturally Aspirated-

 

Note ;

I do not know what exact Mazda Tribute 3 Liter it is.

And,- I do not know what year the "replacement" Engine is.

I use DX-DX Sport Utility as example only

In fact I tried for all the Mazda Tribute 3 Liter models offered in that "Compatibility" Function for checking.

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

By the way,- does Banggood.com have Pay-on-Delivery option ?

Dear Fellow Thaivisa.com Posters,

 

I would greatly appreciate yer recommendations of OBD2 Etc. Scanners, with good software update policies, for ;

 

Mazda Tribute

3 Liter

Year 2003

[ Recently replaced with used Ford "Escape ?" 3 Liter Engine from Japan ]

 

I note the Ancel, Autel, & Launch as being popular brands serving many car models.

Perhaps there is another model I should be aware of as being good ?

 

Here is hoping that I can find on Lazada.co.th or similar what yee recommend ;

Of course,- I would also welcome knowing where recommended new scanners can be bought in Bangkok at very keen prices.

 

Thanking yee all in advance for yer most helpful relevant constructive replies.

 

Faithfully Yours,

 

Our Man in the Tropics

Quote

 

 

9 minutes ago, bankruatsteve said:

Do you have any idea where you can source your inspiration?

BTW: galvanic corrosion is ionic.

1_

Prayer ;

And,- sure why not ?

 

2_

Thanks for that ;

I take it as authoritative.

And,- I will remember it.

U just saved me from some impending grief in getting better handle on Galvanic Corrosion ;

Although,- I will still have to "dip" into it.

 

p.s.

Apologies for attributing the wrong name to post introducing the "Ramp People's Ramps for Steel Tracks with Rubber Coating" when it was actually u who posted this ;

I immediately followed up with the necessary correction.

I had not noticed recent replies from "sometimewoodworker" & "bankruatsteve" & "lemonjelly" ;

Thank u for ur input.

I accept the good advice to avoid plates too heavy for 1 man to lift each.

Please note that I still wish to have rust-proof & durable & anti-skid metal surface for tyre tracks.

......................................

@ bankruatsteve ;

Ur post informing me of "Ramp People's Ramps for Steel Tracks with Rubber Coating" is very interesting information in itself ;

However,- I expect that this superior bright improvisation idea for tyre tracks of my car port would be too expensive for my budget.

But,- I will be exploring this product anyway for its intended purpose.

Many thanks.

....................................

My latest inspiration :

A_

sections of aluminium chequered-plate butting each other & pinned into the earth, somehow, through holes counter-sunk on chequered-plate surface.

B_

hot-dipped galvanized mesh of optimum lightest gauge for to surface the remaining ground & pinned into the earth with galvanized deep U-nails [ perhaps made from galvanized rod by installer ]

 

I hope to be able to maintain acceptable gap between Aluminium Chequered-Plates & Hot-dipped Galvanized Mesh, with a Strip of Plastic Profile.

Thus,- avoiding the Galvanized Coating of the underlying Steel of the Mesh corroding the Aluminium by ironical "Galvanic" Corrosion.

Hi Crossy,

 

Thanks for the Online Metal Weight Calculator

 

I may resort to using aluminium, or stainless steel, plates that cover only the tyre tracks [ thus leaving the rest as earth or covered by other material ] ;

And, yes, I would include extra width of plate to outside of each tracks so as to allow car users to avoid stepping on the earth [ if remaining surface is un-covered ].

 

The total mass of metal plate will be much less than wished for as optimum solution ;

 

Plates can be maneuvered into position onto surface, onto bed of truck, by 1 person using lever :

actual crow-bar

or

improvised crow-bar

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Ref.

Ur other question

How are you going to stop the plate tipping when the vehicle is driven over the edge?

 

Plate positions are maintain to be non-overlapping on the flat-ground ;

Thus,- no fulcrum ;

Thus,- no tipping when vehicle driven over edge

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

READERS OF THIS THREAD FOR THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THE ORIGINAL POSTER'S APPROACH TO THIS PARKING BAY CHALLENGE MAY BE BEST SERVED TO THINK OF IT AS ;

A "FALANG'S PONTOON-BRIDGE OVER UNBROKEN-LAND"

 

"Falang has unbroken-land version of Pontoon-Bridge ;

So,- can quickly lay, or un-lay accordingly, that car-port surface.

He example of new breed of Falang sheep who avoids being regularly shorn ... hopefully ????

 

Very difficult for me to send reply ;

Computer & / or internet conncection to this website is / are acting-up.

 

 

 

 

Hi sometimewoodworker,

 

I would include ur latest post as a quote ;

But,- my computer / internet is again acting-up.

 

I appreciate that which u say ;

Indeed,- I now agree with it except that the following options are worthy of pursuit :

 

1_

"Aluminum Chequered Plate of 6mm or 8 mm or 10 mm :

 

should fulfill :

functionally criterium

1 person man-handling criterium

durability criterium [ some 10 years ]

 

may [ guessing only ] be too expensive for my budget

 

2_

Stainless Steel Checquered Plate of 5 mm ;

 

should fulfill :

functional criterium

1 person man-handling

durability criterium [ some 15 years ]

 

may [ guessing only ] be too expensive for my budget

After replying to another thread which I started around same time as this one,- I also was hindered by my computer & / or internet connection from replying earlier to the most recent posts following my mine in this very thread.

 

Anyway,- many thanks for very useful info. & opinions in what is a brain-storming type of thread.

 

CLARIFICATION [ & APOLOGY FOR OMITTING IT IN PROPOSITION FOR USE OF "SHEET" METAL ] ;

 

1_

"Sheet" Metal should be termed as "Plate" Metal in this context ;

Because of the thicknesses considered ;

6 mm or 8 mm or 10 mm

 

2_

Surface of the Plate Metal should be :

 

2_1_

Checkered [ hence "Checkered Plate" ]

 

or

 

2_2_

2_2_1_

Perforated

"Pre"-perforated

or

2_2_2_

"Post"-perforated [ subsequent to purchase as material from metal supplier ] ;

Perforations preferably are "flared-upwards" AND "without" burrs ;

 

or

2_3_

Grating

2_3_1_

"Pre"-formed [ Mesh ] ; 6 mm gauge min.

or

2_3_2_

"Post"-formed

Rod welded together ; 6 mm gauge min. 

 

Re ; 2_2_ & 2_3_ above

Thus,- facilitated are :

anti-slip for user

drainage

However,- this design feature may be a mistake versus safety against snakes ;

"Snake in the Grass" as concern then expanding to "Snake in the Car-Port Decking" ... ????

 

3_

Metallurgical Quality of the material must be :

 

3_1_

"Hot-dipped Galvanised" Steel

or

3_2_

Aluminum

Apologies for delay in returning ;

Special apologies to the posters who posted after my most recent post ;

My computer & / or internet connection denied me facility of typing a post before now.

 

Again,- very helpful responses ;

 

Note ;

I am delayed in contacting the phone numbers in pinned topic at top of forum as advised by CharlieH ;

Briefing of the nice Thai lady on this topic & my line of enquiry so as to assist me if necessary during those avenues of pursuit is still pending.

 

Ref.

On 5/14/2020 at 11:14 AM, mark5335 said:

With regard to the aforesaid query seeking clarification of the so called green form, I can affirm my belief that it most likely refers to the Certificate of Origin (form E) under the China ASEAN Free Trade Agreement. This enables the Thailand importer to attract a lower tariff under the FTA. My firm has used these in the past with regarding to the importation of specialised machinery from China. However, we had always utilise the services of a customs agent to handle such formalities on our behalf. (NB: In the original form was white with beige font back then, and the triplicate counterparts were green).

 

I profess that I'm unaware of using the form for personal (non-business) imports.

 

 

 

 

This is very useful info., mark5335, even if I as importer for personal use only or gift only, cannot avail of it ;

Now knowing this can be very useful for helping business owners, or staff, to help me with their knowledge as to how to minimise duty charges & taxes & other charges on particular item for personal use only or gift only.

 

By the way ;

I understand that Thai businesses can import product into Thailand without incurring duty charges & taxes & other charges on certain product if the product are then modified [ to what extent ? ] for then export from Thailand.

 

Further to latest helpful replies, viz. from VocalNeal & Bankruatsteve,- I realise that I need to clarify about the so-called hard-ground surface that I refer to ;

 

compacted earth

visually level

covered by adjoining roofs but open to elements at opposite ends

unattractive

non-uniform surface

soiling as mud when wet ; Yes,- prone to being muddy with water spillages, or heavy rain intrusion

soiling as dust when dry

 

I now convinced that my initial proposal -- even with flexible rubbery mastic bonding suitable ceramic tiling for comings, & goings, of pickup motorized vehicle, is NOT a feasible solution for my problem / challenge

Even if this proposal was optimized for to succeed,- I dare-say that it would prove to be :

difficult for to source satisfactory substrate

expensive on substrate, & tiles

 

And, so, further to this brain-storming session,- I now hope to get yer assistance as to the prices for :

 

10 mm Hot-dipped Galvanised Plate

 

12 mm Hot-dipped Galvanised Plate

 

2 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

The local termites will be extremely happy. You will very shortly have crazy paving as the substrate flexes and many tiles break.

 

so if feeding local wildlife and breaking tiles is something you consider feasible then yes ???? 

 

PS The only  prevention  against termite attack is wood treatment, mastic does nothing.

Well, sometimewoodworker, ur answer is very convincing ;

 

Is / Are there some good & cheap & relatively safe effective wood-treatment that will result in a durable substrate ?

e.g.s

1_

wood product substrate pre-treated by its manufacturer ?

2_

wood product substrate post-treated by customer

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

Perhaps,- I should consider the option of using "hot-dipped galvanized checkered-plate of 10 mm thickness" ?

Would this be a hazard for lightening strikes or mains electricity shorting ?

Should it be earthed to a properly buried copper rod ?

 

 

Addendum ;

Think of this floor as a moveable floor as would suit a Falang who may have to relocate with this floor transported by truck & re-laid & added to according to new location.