Thakkar

4 minutes ago, dcutman said:

Yawn.

*burp*

7 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

What he is hinting at is that Fox news are blaming the Obama Administration saying that they gave the Russian Lawyer a visa to enter the USA !! It is truly frakking pathetic. I cannot understand how any republican with a brain cannot be ashamed at what their party are doing to their country .

Here's a pic to Trump in 2013 sitting right next to the lawyer that he is now pretending not to know.

5 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

Here are the type of people that Trump surrounds himself with. (we like to hang around like minded people don't we!).

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/13/politics/trump-lawyer-profanity-threats-emails-apology/index.html

 

Nice! What was it Trump said:  "I have all the best people, the best team"

it's yet another example of the lowlife thuggish circles Trump and his family run in.

T

10 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

15 minutes ago, dcutman said:

This story is about to go very quiet as the Obama administration gets dragged into this.

No it won't. Whatever Obama/Clinton or Old Mother Jones have done that is up for them to be judged separately. Whatever they may have done does not diminish or make excuse for what the Trumps and their administration do.  Clinton Emails.........pffff ! <snip>

If you follow Right Wing media, especially the loonier ones, the effort to shift the narrative is happening. Moves are afoot to somehow blame Obama for "The Russia Thing" (they avoid calling it "Russian interference in US elections to favor Trump")

I can't get my head around how this convoluted pretzeling  is supposed to make sense, but they're giving it the old college try. If they had any real arguments, they wouldn't need to twist so much. Luckily their readers aren't very discerning.

T

1 hour ago, mesquite said:

Resistance is futile.  Give it up.  As Sebastian Gorka told Anderson Cooper, "the President is a steam locomotive that will not be stopped."

 

The best the resistance members can do is to run a viable opponent in 2020, perhaps someone better than a broken down old communist or a clone of Ma Barker.  But even then Trump will win.  So just get over it, accept it, and work to help President Trump implement his agenda, an agenda for the American people.  Do your part to bring the country together, if only in a small way.  Help make America great again.

 

Remember, the President is a steam locomotive that will not be stopped.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/07/13/sebastian-gorka-trump-russia-fake-news-cooper-ac-intv.cnn

Resistance is futile.

C'mon, is that apt?

The Borg were unfeeling, acquisitive, drones with no moral compass mindlessly repeating phrases fed to them by a ruthless vainglorious queen who communicated with them through an intergalactic internet.

Oh wait...that's exactly like Trump and his Trumpsters.

Never mind.

T

New York Post defends Don Jr. : he's not a traitor, he's just an idiot.

(Yeah, but what about Kushner and Manaford?)

T

3 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

oh and daddy's money and lawyers and a post war property bull market and the morals of a snake . The rest sadly is history. Who would have thought we would be welcoming President Pence - the world has / is going mad.

Give the man some credit: he pulled himself up by his daddy's KKK bootstraps.

T

17 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Idiots voted for an idiot who has turned out be an idiot with an idiot family. Who would have thought it !

1 minute ago, Grubster said:

Lipstick on a pig.

I just imagined them laughing in the back rooms as you mentioned. In my mind their faces looked exactly as on-camera, but their bodies shook convulsively. Spilled my drink, so thanks for nothing.

T

11 minutes ago, Grubster said:

I never believe anything said on Fox news unless verified, but I sure do like watching it. Funny stuff Man. How they keep a straight face I don't know. They have to be laughing their asses off in the back room.

It's all the Botox.

T

1 hour ago, ilostmypassword said:

You mean unlike the sane and sober attacks from Republicans claiming Obama was born in Kenya?  Attacks supported by none other than Donald Trump. 

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291059-poll-majority-of-republicans-still-doubt-obamas

Not to mention all the other crazy conspiracy theories touted by the alt-right.

 

Trump's people are returning from Hawaii any day now (it's a long trip). You won't believe what they've found! Some people say it's shocking. I don't know yet, but a lotta people say. Could be nothin'. But EVERYONE says it's a big somtnin' somthin' 

Stay Tuned.

T

19 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

How's her anti cyber bullying campaign going?

Or did she decide to go after plagiarism instead?

 

Keep up, man. Her latest cause is The absolute sanctity of Third Marriages.

...except when wife #3 is pregnant, in which case a church sanctified exception is made and the husband concerned is allowed to take another married woman "furniture shopping" (if you know what I mean) with a view to fornication (oh, Trump told us what I mean)

T

1 hour ago, ilostmypassword said:

You mean before Communism there was no such thing as political paranoia?

Don't believe the Lyin' Constantinople Times. Attila the Hun is our friend!

T

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

How's her anti cyber bullying campaign going?

Or did she decide to go after plagiarism instead?

Keep up, man. Her latest cause is The absolute sanctity of Third Marriages.

T

The story is about the PRESIDENT of the country tweeting a video showing the most powerful man in the country bashing a representative of the Third Estate whose job it is to speak truth to power.

In their jobs to speak truth to power, they may at times get it wrong, they may be biased, they may even be malicious. But when the most powerful man in the country sends a clear message that he would bash them—THAT is an attack on a major pillar that makes democracy work.

It isn't trivial. It isn't a joke. He is The President. The Press are watchdogs.

The video is chilling in that context.

T

15 minutes ago, ddavidovsky said:

It's about paranoia. Which is a throwback to communism. The UK is also infected by it. Fallon's speech is full of paranoid speculation and misguided interference with an underlying political agenda. The Russian 'problem' is chimerical. Remove that from the Trump issue and the hysteria loses most of its steam.

"Fish are friends"

"He's really a nice guy"

3 minutes ago, ddavidovsky said:

No, that's next door. Some old guy with a white beard is on it.

 

I see you've run out of spin. Really, we should be asking exactly what the Russians had on Clinton that could influence an election? Rather worrying, no? The American people ought to know. And of course, the security agencies need to know where the security loophole is and this would have been the best way to find out. Not to deny, of course, that Jr had personal advantage in mind, just pointing out that argument could be made that trying to get the information may have been in America's best interests. It's actually impossible to deny.

Sorry, I was wrong. Looks like it's much higher than that.

Cloud 99?

T

1 minute ago, ddavidovsky said:

I'm totally objective. I view the world from a cloud. What I see is hysteria calculated to discredit the Trump administration.

 

Russia is not a 'hostile foreign adversary'. That's paranoia. Communism is long dead. There is no territorial contention - no conflict at all between Russia and the US. The 'hostility' is concocted for political purposes, such as this.

 

The FBI would have told Jr to cosy up to the Russians and get the information. If there is a security loophole, this is the best way to discover it. Funnily enough, that actually isn't spin, but quite a serious point.

 

Spin that.

 

 

 

"I'm totally objective. I view the world from a cloud"

Cloud 9?

T

24 minutes ago, ddavidovsky said:

Hysteria over nothing. Just people desperately dishing dirt. That's politics.

 

The only important issue here is what inside information exactly did the Russians on HC have and how did they get it?

Best way to find that out is to cosy up to them and find out what they've got, which is what Jr did. That would help close the security loophole. He could argue it was in America's best interests.

Don Jr., the master spy. SAving America from Russian meddling by pretending to take part in the meddling on his father's behalf.

I love it!

T

2 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

As I posted in another thread.  You need to do better research regarding this lawyer, and Chaika.

 

The Russian lawyer does have connections to the Russian government.  Perhaps nothing took place, but the intent was there.  Along with the lies.  Which is what will get all these people in trouble.  Hopefully.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/12/who-is-natalia-veselnitskaya-low-level-lawyer-or-kremlin-power-broker
 

Chaika definitely has connections to the "Evil Empire". LOL

Lookie here, what a coincidence! But then coincidences are common in the small circles of mob-connected former casino magnates, money launderers and their lawyers.

For years, she has been a lawyer for the Katsyv family, whose patriarch, Pyotr D. Katsyv, was minister of transportation of the Moscow region for more than a decade, and whose son was caught up in the New York money laundering case.

The family’s trust in Ms. Veselnitskaya was rewarded in May, when she helped Denis P. Katsyv, Pyotr’s son, fight the money laundering claims in New York brought by the Manhattan federal prosecutor at the time, Preet Bharara. Mr. Bharara tangled with Ms. Veselnitskaya several times and protested at one point that she had been charging the government for a $995-a-night room at the Plaza Hotel.

The case was settled two months after Mr. Bharara was dismissed by President Trump.

"U.S. settles Russia  money-laundering case"

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-crime-prevezon-idUSKBN18904I

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

I don't think he needs a criminal lawyer, no way treason or something similar can be proven.

 

What this does prove though is that the Trump camp has been lying time and time again about their intentions and about their contacts with the Russians.

Agreed. The evidence, based on what's publicly known, is still thin. The only angle so far is campaign finance laws that prohibit in-kind contributions "of value". The Trump camp, while finally now acknowledging meetings with Russian government connected people who promised damaging Clinton info, still claim they received no such info. The meetings themselves *may* be enough to indict but probably not enough to successfully prosecute.

Still, a lot of meetings, with a lot of shady Russians, and a lot of lies and denials and non-disclosures of those meetings. As Dahlia Lithwick of Slate said:

"As 'nothing burgers' go, this one looks like a whopper."

Watch the *countless* times Trump and his team denied any collusion or ties with Russia pic.twitter.com/eLlZ7rhvRO

— NowThis (@nowthisnews) July 11, 2017

Also, as yet we don't know what Mueller knows or is working on. We don't know if Flynn or Roger Stone (maybe Manaford) will flip. Since Trump is still Prez. they may not flip if they believe Trump will pardon them. 

The investigations will go on for a long time by the looks of it.

That's why Trump's immediate concern is the press who are doing solid investigative reporting. This is why Trump keeps attacking the press and its credibly, avoids press conferences as much as possible and why WH press briefings are now off camera.

T

2 minutes ago, pegman said:

16 hours ago, Morch said:

 

Qatar advances Islamic organizations, which while perhaps not as obvious as the one's supported by Saudi Arabia, are nevertheless not something to be celebrated. And yes, they have funded somewhat different factions and organizations when it comes to Syria etc. - its sometimes hard to keep track of who's who and who's aligned with whom at any given time.

 

Al Jazeera is not "on par" with Western media. Not by a long shot. Not when certain topics are banned and editorial control is exerted by the government. That it's better than other Arab media outlets doesn't make it a paragon of quality journalism, and once more - most of the complaints leveled by Qatar's neighbors relate to the Arabic edition.

I think it is superior to other Western news media. It employs top notch journalists from places like the BBC & CBC.  I find they are less bias and their issue debate panels are setup as equals. I know nothing of their Arabic station.

I agree that they do good journalism and fill an important gap in mid-east reporting and provide much-needed Asian and Arabic angle to western news stories.

however, let's not forget that they are funded by a non democratic government and that a condition of that funding is to have certain blind spots when required. Also, It's hard to believe they get no occasional prodding as to where to put extra emphasis in their reporting, and especially in opinion sections of their broadcasts.

so, while good, and often reliable, let's remember to—as with all cases of news reporting—keep our thinking caps on.

T 

Sorry for posting yet another Colbert vid, but this is too delicious not to share

Rupert Murdoch's NY Post turns on Trump, calls Don Jr. "criminally stupid."

http://nypost.com/2017/07/11/donald-trump-jr-is-an-idiot/

Republican Trey Benghazi!! Gowdy:

https://twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/884934824556888068/video/1

These could be the first rats to jump ship.

T