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More Trump doctrine:5 years ago:
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
Jon Huntsman called to see me. I said no, he gave away our country to China! @JonHuntsman
China: neither white nor Christian, so: enemy.
Russia: White and Christian and Putin loves Trump, so: friendClinton: woman and liberal and doesn't praise Trump, so: enemyT -
4 minutes ago, iReason said:
Majority of Trump supporters 'don't believe Trump Jr attended Russian lawyer meeting'
Donald Trump Jr has confirmed he took the meeting (sub-title)
"Only 45 per cent of Trump voters, the national poll found, believe that Mr Trump Jr met with a Kremlin-connected lawyer
who promised damaging information on Hillary Clinton."
"Forty-four per cent believe Russia wanted Ms Clinton to win."
"Seventy-seven per cent of Trump voters said they would support the President staying in office,
even if investigations find he did collude with Russia."
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
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2 minutes ago, binjalin said:
"agents of a foreign adversarial power"? I'll leave you to it
Once this circus is over let's get back to challenging Trump on his anti pro-choice, anti-marijuana and anti-common health garbage.
I share your concerns about Trump & the GOP's "anti-pro choice, anti-marijuana and anti-common health garbage"
But I can walk and chew gum at the same time.
I think you've taken "agent" above to mean "spy"
Tt is meant as "someone who represents" which is also a common meaning of the word outside of Hollywood movies.
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27 minutes ago, binjalin said:
Hello, yes the meeting held in Daddies Tower amongst 100s of other meetings. The one where some of you think Western Democracy was being subverted. Reds under the Bed and all that lol. There's about 4 of you posting rabidly and liking each others posts like there's no tomorrow. Don't you get out much?
Let me fill in the crucial details you carefully left out:
"yes, the meeting [with known Kremlin associates who had promised to supply info on your daddy/father-in-law/boss's presidential election rival] held in Daddies Tower amongst 100s of other meetings."
This makes it different from the "100s of other meetings" —unless those were also with agents of a foreign adversarial power trying to subvert an American presidential election.
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10 minutes ago, iReason said:
Eighth person in Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting is Russian money laundering figure Ike Kaveladze
"The eighth person who attended Donald Trump Jr.’s campaign meeting with the Russian government has now been identified by name, and it’s raising red flags across the board."
"He’s a Russian immigrant to the United States named Irakly “Ike” Kaveladze, and existing records show that he has a long history of alleged money laundering on a massive scale."
"The news of Kaveladze attending the meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and the Kremlin comes even as Russian money laundering has already become a central tenet of the Trump-Russia scandal."
More:
But even without an investigation by Congress or a special prosecutor, there is much we already know about the president’s debt to Russia. A review of the public record reveals a clear and disturbing pattern: Trump owes much of his business success, and by extension his presidency, to a flow of highly suspicious money from Russia. Over the past three decades, at least 13 people with known or alleged links to Russian mobsters or oligarchs have owned, lived in, and even run criminal activities out of Trump Tower and other Trump properties.
And then There's this piece where a Russian expert stated that Trump has essentially been colluding with Russian oligarchs and mobsters (Assuming there is a difference) for over forty years.
https://www.vox.com/2017/7/18/15983910/donald-trump-russia-putin-natalia-veselnitskaya-collusion
In that expert's (Seva Gunitsky) opinion Trump was compromised by the Russians well before he ever had any serious political aspirations, which explain why the Russians might have been keen to help him win.
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51 minutes ago, CutiePi said:
I thought liberals and Democrat voters are all in for open borders...now they don't like the people who come in...funny that.
It's also suspicious that all these supposed Russian agents and operatives we're allowed into the country by the Obama-Clinton administration.
"Obama-Clinton" — I imagine you saying that Seinfeld says "Newman"
That's how cartoonish Trump defenders sound. If only Obama-Clinton hadn't forced Trump's senior people from meeting with these nefarious Russians.
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5 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:
You are correct. Donald Trump did not say that. But why would he have to wait for 30 days at all, since he said he already had a plan? And the plan had to be better than what his generals could offer since he said he understood Isis better than they did.
And then there's this:
Trump’s ‘Secret Plan’ to Defeat ISIS Looks a Lot Like Obama’s
Remember presidential candidate Donald Trump’s secret plan to defeat the Islamic State? And his boast that he knew more than the generals did about the Islamic State (thus implying he’d replace them once in office)? More campaign rhetoric crashing on the rocks of reality: The Trump administration just endorsed the core elements of former President Barack Obama’s counter-Islamic State plan, and Trump has decided that Obama’s generals weren’t so bad, either.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/31/trumps-secret-plan-to-defeat-isis-looks-a-lot-like-obamas/
Just like his properties: slap his name on somebody else's work and call it his.
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11 minutes ago, bushdoctor said:
That video says nothing new. He wasn't banning all Muslims, he was suggesting a temporary ban on entering.
Now what about your false statement that Trump was going to defeat ISIS in 30 days?
"Donald J Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the H is going on..."
~ Donald Trump
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8 minutes ago, bushdoctor said:
Your post is not accurate. It's mostly mis-quoted or incomplete.
Trump wanted a temporary ban on visas, he doesn't want to ban all Muslims.
It's an excerpt.
Just to forestall unnecessary back and forth accusations of "taken out of context" here's the full speech:
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2 minutes ago, Grubster said:
Hey don't be making fun of Reaganomics, wages have been trickling down and down ever since, and thats a really good thing I've been told.
Not to mention Trump's always up for some trickle, if you know what I mean.
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29 minutes ago, car720 said:
Well put. The democratization of corruption. Precisely.
My thought is that if the top 3% of the world own 95% of the wealth then it is my presumption that they did not get it without graft. I just feel that the little guy deserves a roll of the dice as well.
I was being sarcastic. Graft actually has the opposit effect to what you claim. You will find that the more graft, the wider the income disparity.
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11 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:
When I see some of the incomes Americans earn, I think it still exists!!
Under Trump and his healthcare repeal and tax cuts for the rich, it will soon progress to the actual slavery that existed in the 17th and 18th century America. #MAGA will have been achieved.
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4 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:
Maybe payment can be made by the Mexicans foregoing their wages??
Heck, why not just bring back slavery? That's what some Trump voters may really be hankering for when they say MAGA.
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2 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:
I knew the technology had been around for some years.
High unemployment in Mexico, so perhaps jobs for all?
What a trifecta! The Mexicans are going to be stopped by The Wall, pay for The Wall that is stopping them and work to maintain The Wall that is thwarting their dreams.
In horse racing, that kind of win is known as a quinella.
Those lucky Mexicans!
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16 hours ago, car720 said:
the wrong analogy though. Consider 1.5 billion corrupt Chinese and 25 million corrupt Australians. At least the corruption in China is honest and available, just like Thailand. In Australia you have to be part of an elite group to have access to the corruption.
What an odd notion: the democratization of corruption.
The idea of corruption is to buy one's way to a shorter queue. The more money you "invest" the closer you get to the head of the queue.
Then there's the other side of the transaction: officials—both low and high—DEMANDING payment to not just give you a leg up, but simply to do their jobs so that even if you're not looking for a leg up, you need to pay to get that driving license.
Something for Australia to aspire to, I guess.
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4 minutes ago, iReason said:
If Republicans Love Their Country, When Will They Show It?
"These are the words that will resonate for quite a while, typed just 17 minutes after Don Jr. was told the Clinton dirt was coming from the Kremlin: “If it’s what you say I love it.”
"This is not about being dumb. It’s not about being ruthless. It’s not about oppo research. It’s not even about dirty tricks."
"This is about a very basic level of patriotism"
No one can credibly take Republican declarations of patriotism seriously after they continue to delay and stymie investigations into Russian interference in US elections.
No one can credibly take any Republican moralizing seriously when they continued to support Trump after the release of the Access Hollywood tape.
No one can credibly take Republican glorification of the US constitution seriously as they ignore PRESIDENT Trump's incessant attacks on the Third Estate.
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9 minutes ago, CutiePi said:
The US has done it many times...making sure the "right" party won an election (from their point of view. Other countries do the same...the funny thing is seeing the liberal media and the Democrat Party feign shock and horror at it (when their "right" candidate didn't win). Tell you what, in 2020, I'll donate a copy of Kapersky Security Suite to the DNC...should solve the problem.
Interfering in the internal politics of adversarial countries : standard spycraft.
Citizens of the country being interefered with possibly working with the adversarial power: treason
Citizens of the country being interefered with possibly working with the adversarial power to win power for themselves: high treason
Discussing it in an email: dumb treason
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2 hours ago, CutiePi said:
Depends if you consider Russia a "hostile foreign power." For most people, the Cold War ended 25 years ago. The "inexperience" you mention many Americans see as not being a political hack and 30-year swamp creature.
Only friendly countries threaten your allies and attempt to interfere in your elections.
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10 minutes ago, CutiePi said:
Investigation into what...why the Democrat Party and the DNC ignored FBI warnings that their computers were vulnerable to hacking...why the DNC and the Hillary campaign spent over a billion dollars but didn't spend 30 bucks for a copy of Norton Internet Security...why John Podesta is so dumb he opens email attachments from unknown senders?
The DNC deliberately left themselves open to hacking and Clinton campaign chief foolishly allowed his computer to be infected so that Russians could hack in and use the info to undermine the Clinton campaign to the benefit of her opponent.
Great campaign strategy!
THAT's what Mueller should be investigating, not the ACTUAL hackings and the ACTUAL Trump associates/Russians meetings or the content of those meetings or why the Trump associates first hid, then lied about those meetings.
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On 7/11/2017 at 11:15 AM, JHolmesJr said:
Leading a country is not about being liked…its about representing the interests of your country the best you can. Mr Trump is finally standing up for
americans whose voices have been smothered by the collusion between politicians pushing g a globalist agenda.
So the man with real estate and other businesses around the world whose companies sell imported products from around the world, who holds his beauty pageants (involving international contestants) in other countries, who borrows from foreign banks and who solicits and accepts investments from around the world into his projects is going to stand up AGAINST the globalist agenda?
Ok, got it.
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On 7/10/2017 at 0:13 PM, pegman said:On 7/10/2017 at 0:08 PM, Cats4ever said:
I love Samantha Bee's description of the two Trump sons as Sonny & Fredo. Not sure which is which.
Or Beavis + Butthead
Twiddle Dumb and Twiddle Dumber
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On 7/10/2017 at 11:13 AM, Somtamnication said:On 7/10/2017 at 8:59 AM, JHolmesJr said:
well i am sure if the russians had reached out to clinton with some golden shower tapes of trump, that meeting would have happened too.
Losers become hypocrites so fast.
So with your reasoning, two wrongs make a right?
Actually it's one wrong and one hypothetical wrong making the actual wrong right.
Also known as Trumpian ethics.
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On 7/10/2017 at 10:22 AM, boomerangutang said:
What do Trumpsters take Americans for?!?! .....They must think we're the dumbest ding dongs in the history of mankind, to believe any piece of the piles of BS they're shoveling at us.
American ding-dong levels currently holding steady at around 36% of the population. They are the largest minority group angling for affirmative action on their behalf, actions that involve denying rights to others including the right to a decent education so as to bolster the ranks of American ding-dongs.
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On 7/10/2017 at 10:18 AM, Rancid said:
I don't particularly like Trump so can can see why he can infuriate progressives. That aide though, with all this evil Russian meme going on in the US what do you lot actually want? You have already applied sanctions, what is left, war? War with a nuclear armed power isn't going to be like Hollywood, it would probably mean the complete end of your country and even civilization. Is that what you want to risk?
Nobody is talking abut war.
How about starting with a robust, bi-partisan investigation without GOP obstruction of all the ways the interference was done so as to build effective defenses against future interferences—an essential exercise if American democracy and the integrity of elections is to be preserved?
How about clarifying if Americans were involved in cooperating with Russia, and if so, who, so that they can be prosecuted under the law and prevented from doing the same again?
How about Those Americans who did meet with Russians come clean about all meetings?
How about refraining from screaming "fake news" every time a news media exposes a meeting that should have been reported as required, but wasn't?
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Republican push to end Obamacare collapses in U.S. Senate
in World News
Posted · Edited by Thakkar
Couldn't even just repeal. When they knew Obama was going to veto it, they voted to repeal 60 times. SIXTY TIMES. Now that they have a president who would sign it, they didn't have the balls to do it.
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