11 minutes ago, iReason said:

Could someone decipher for me what this guy is saying @0:25? Unite the the red tape?? 

 

 

Sounds like he's sedated...

 

"Sounds like he's being sedated..."

oh noooo! Alex Jones mind-fking got to you too? Please say it ain't so!

But seriously, Trump is so out there that even his allies can't come up with a better excuse than, "he's being drugged"

1 hour ago, ilostmypassword said:

Some things never change:

Funds from Trump's massive inaugural fundraiser still unavailable to charity

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s inaugural committee raised an unprecedented $107 million for a ceremony that officials promised would be “workmanlike,” and the committee pledged to give leftover funds to charity. Nearly eight months later, the group has helped pay for redecorating at the White House and the vice president’s residence in Washington.

But nothing has yet gone to charity.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-inaugural-funds-charity-2017-9

All the money, every last cent will go to charity, right after he's opened a wholly owned offshore company called Charity LLC

On 9/13/2017 at 8:32 PM, Jingthing said:

On 9/13/2017 at 8:12 PM, mesquite said:

Our fellow TV members say so.  See the current poll results, 54% to 46%.  Or as the card players say, "read 'em and weep."

Nobody in their right mind would actually believe this is a scientific poll.

It is a credible scientific poll if it favors Trump. It isn't if it doesn't. 

On 9/12/2017 at 8:25 PM, Opl said:

‘I’m risking my life telling you all this’: Alex Jones has a bizarre theory about Trump’s mental decline"

ttp://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/im-risking-my-life-telling-you-all-this-alex-jones-has-a-bizarre-theory-about-trumps-mental-decline/

"Alex Jones has a bizarre theory..."

Is there any any other kind of Alex Jones theory?

8 hours ago, iReason said:

 

"the plethora of violence and murder we've seen from terrorist organizations like Antifa and Black Lives Matter"

 

Accommodate away.

And feel free to show evidence of your hysterical, hyperbolic bloviating.

 

And starting with a chant from angry crowd? That's your opening statement?

Pretty weak and insubstantial compared to your claims.

Because a white man's hurt feelings is the same as a black man's crushed skull.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

The clown potus being elected revealing the UGLY side of America ... to Americans. For those that didn't already know. An interesting perspective from an EXPAT.

 

Again, thank goodness (or God if you're into that kind of thing) for the Washington Post, the New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, etc. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/trump-is-making-americans-see-the-us-the-way-the-rest-of-the-world-already-did/2017/09/08/50f7c5ac-8ce8-11e7-84c0-02cc069f2c37_story.html

 

 

I imagine Europeans, when they watched "To Sir With Love" in the 1960s, were quite bewildered as to what passed for "shocking" in America.

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

11 minutes ago, funandsuninbangkok said:

Trump still there. 

This seems to be the main reason trumpists still support 45. To mock the majority of Americans that think he's horrible. 

After seven months of blundering, buffoonery and do-nothing, simply keeping the job is now counted by his supporters as an "achievement" and by his detractors as an inexplicable peculiarity.

6 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

you mean because of the effects of his intrastructure bill?

or because ofthe effects of his tax reform bill?

or because of the fact that's he happens to be President of the United States during a period of economic expansion that began about 7 years ago?

Maybe he means all the mediocre comedian jobs Trump is creating. Comedians who couldn't get a laugh, hence no jobs, can now get a laugh, hence jobs, just by saying "Trump"

10 minutes ago, iReason said:

"While the potential Russian deal was still on the table, Trump was speaking positively about working with Russian President Vladimir Putin and also minimized Russia's aggressive military moves around the world."

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/08/politics/document-trump-tower-moscow/index.html

 

"I have nothing to do with Russia folks" DJT.

"My hands are normal. I have no problems in that area, believe me folks" 

If the best alibi they came up with for Donnie's meeting was Clinton's "fitness”, how will they get 14 stories straight? 


https://twitter.com/wretchedrefuse0/status/905968741988671488
@DonaldJTrumpJr 

On AF1 when Trump dictated Don Jr letter

Melania
Ivanka
Priebus
Miller
Kushner
Bannon
McMaster
Spicer
Sanders
Anton
Hicks
Cohn
Powell
Raffel

5 hours ago, sirineou said:

why would they need to accept "Hillary or any of her ilk" if djt is booted ? The White House gardener is closer in the succession than "Hillary and any of her ilk"

When Trump is out of the picture, I'll be glad—grateful even—to stop talking about him. Strangely, some folks hang on to "Hillary and her ilk" like it's some kind of hate jackoff porn.

I've met divorced men who, when they can no longer justify their patheticly lonely bachelorhood, comfort themselves with, "I'm still better of without that b!tch"

Meanwhile, that "b!tch" is busy dating nicer guys.

Something like that—I'm not good with analogies.

20 hours ago, iReason said:

Facebook sold ads to fake accounts linked to Russian 'troll factory' during the US election

 

"In 2015, the ABC's 7.30 program looked into these internet trolls,

a workforce of hundreds that patrol the internet at the command of the Kremlin."

 

"The department at the centre of this effort is officially known as the Internet Research Agency,

otherwise known as the Troll Factory."

 

"Generally, they produce lies in a 24-hour regime, seven days a week," said Andrei Soshnikov,

the investigative journalist who has led the efforts to expose the Troll Factory said at the time."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-07/facebook-admits-it-sold-ads-to-russia-in-2016--what-now/8880536

30 million Facebook users had their data harvested by Trump campaign affiliate interc.pt/2mTAwIT

The harvest done by Global Science Research on behalf of Cambridge Analytica, was done without the consent or even knowledge of the users. 

The guy who managed this activity, Joseph Chancellor, was later hired by FB.

Mercer, who helped finance Trump's campaign and is the money man behind Breitbart has a $ interest in Cambridge Analytica. Bannon too.

32 minutes ago, iReason said:

it is almost like Trump was sent to destroy America from within," the editorial said."

I take issue with the word "almost"

44 minutes ago, iReason said:

 

Couldn't resist sliding that little jab in there could you?

Thereby revealing your less than subtle stereotypical bias...

I'd say that even less than astute observers pretty much had his number long before that little jab.

1 hour ago, iReason said:

Facebook says likely Russian-based operation funded U.S. ads with political message

 

"SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Facebook Inc said on Wednesday it had found that an operation likely based in Russia spent $100,000 on thousands of U.S. ads promoting divisive social and political messages in a two-year-period through May."

 

"Facebook, the dominant social media network, said 3,000 ads and 470 “inauthentic” accounts and pages spread polarizing views on topics including immigration, race and gay rights."

 

"Facebook briefed members of both the Senate and House of Representatives intelligence committees on Wednesday about the suspected Russia advertising, according to a congressional source familiar with the matter."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-propaganda/facebook-says-likely-russian-based-operation-funded-u-s-ads-with-political-message-idUSKCN1BH2VX

Since Trump won by a mere 78,000 votes across three states, the Facebook campaign would only have had to influence 39,000 voters to vote for Trump rather than Hillary, or convince 78,000 potential Hillary voters to stay home or vote third party, or some combination of those.

When you add the other efforts: hacking and releasing DNC emails, then Podesta's emails, RT and Sputnik news reporting and possibly other efforts, it is no longer so speculative to say that the Russians put the deciding thumb on the scale.

Add to that Comey's letter and the many Republican vote suppression efforts throughout the country, it seems this election was indeed stolen.

Even if there wasn't collusion, that's a bitter pill to swallow, and I think, explains the surprising forthrightness in HRC upcoming book, "What Happened" 

I feel she would have preferred to name it "What The F* Happened"

5 hours ago, pegman said:

I think after agreeing to Nancy & Chuck's debt ceiling proposal today there is much impeachment talk among congressional Republicans tonight.

Get a look at Chuck Schumer's face as he announces this deal. He could barely retrain his glee. Mrs. T said he looked like the cat that swallowed the canary. I said he looked more like the canary that swallowed the cat!

21 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Basically, it's a justification of ignorance. Clearly, this person doesn't have a clue about economics. Not so long ago I had a run-in with someone who claimed that all politicians were corrupt and only in it to enrich themselves and their patrons. He was justifying Trump's programs. I pointed to the example of Elizabeth Warren. He just responded with unreasoning contempt.  Same kind of pig ignorance.

This whole schtick about "all politicians lie" is a huge bugbear of mine. It's an excuse to justify unthinking dogma: settle on one way of thinking about the world, ignore contravening facts, new discoveries, better arguments, novel approaches, etc and just sit back comfortably in one's ignorance and tell everybody to stay off your lawn.

The fact is NOT all politicians lie. Many are dedicated Civil servants who try hard to keep the promises they've made. Some promises are kept, some aren't, some partly, some differently. Actual governing always proves more complicated than politicking. For us to understand and appreciate what's happening requires regular engagement, effort, and pushing our elected officials to pay attention to our needs and explain their actions.

But that means we have to pay attention to the news, think about issues, read up on things we don't know about, get involved in campaigns, keep up the pressure on officials —BE ACTUAL CITIZENS. 

But that's too much work for some. So much easier to just say, "screw them all, let's have a demagogue"

25 minutes ago, daboyz1 said:

I didn't bother reading it. No point. I already know where he stands on economics. Somewhere left of Stalin.

Conversely, I don't bother reading or listening to Hannity, O'Reilly et al.

People like Krugman are the reason Trump is in the white house.

Krugman is a respected economist who supports his assertions with data, facts, studies and reasoned arguments. When he is wrong, he admits it, as he did some years ago when he admitted that actual economic outcomes had shown that his earlier support of unfettered globalization was a big mistake.

Hannity and O'Reilly are performers who have little understanding of anything except how to manipulate their dumb audience. They seldom employ facts or reasoned arguments and do not apologize for sh!tload of falsehoods they have spouted over the years.

One is a serious academic, the other two are highly paid performance monkeys.

Saying "I don't read Krugman, just like I don't Read Hannity" is like saying "I don't like ham sandwiches, just like don't like sh!t sandwiches"

One is legitimate food that you are entitled to not like. The other, you'd have to be a dung beetle to even consider as edible.

This kind of absurd, completely improper equivalency is why Trump is in the WH. And also, Russians, allegedly.

25 minutes ago, daboyz1 said:

Paul Krugman. Lol

daboyz1. HA! Snigger, LOL, guffaw.

Killing DACA is bad economics.

Paul Krugman:

So this is a double blow to the U.S. economy; it will make everyone worse off. There is no upside whatever to this cruelty, unless you just want to have fewer people with brown skin and Hispanic surnames around. Which is, of course, what this is really all about.

https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/the-very-bad-economics-of-killing-daca/

Colbert is back: 

DACA won't MAGA

2 hours ago, attrayant said:

3 hours ago, thehelmsman said:

Their parents knowingly put their kids in harms way. When will this insanity stop.

 

So let's punish the kids for that?  Really?

"I don't care if the kids have to suffer for their parents' sins"

and then...

"why should * I * feel bad because my parents supported/allowed/didn't oppose Jim Crow"

3 hours ago, iReason said:

Tim Cook, Mark Zuckerberg and top tech bosses slam Trump's latest immigration plans

to scrap DACA "dreamer" scheme

 

"Bosses of the world's top technology companies have once again spoken out against President Donald Trump, this time slamming his decision to scrap a scheme that lets young immigrants stay in the US where they grew up."

 

Microsoft's Satya Nadella

"Dreamers make our country & communities stronger. We stand for diversity and economic opportunity for everyone," he tweeted"

 

Google's Sundar Pichai

"Dreamers are our neighbors, our friends and our co-workers. This is their home. Congress needs to act now to #DefendDACA. #WithDreamers," he tweeted."

http://www.cityam.com/271474/tim-cook-mark-zuckerberg-and-top-tech-bosses-slam-trumps

 

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