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Amazing how many International Banking experts there are here. ????

Hmmm. I wonder where they got that fashion idea from?!? ????

Yes! If I was wealthy ????

Thai rain dance? Could work. ????

If you read the link there's oil dilution on every single engine in every single car available including non Turbo engines. It's only an issue if you don't warm up the engine enough. The 1.5liter engine does have issues under those conditions. You're saying you're 100% sure the 1.0l engine isn't based on the design of the 1.5?

It depends. ???? How many minutes/km are you going to drive it each way on your typical day to day drive in it? If the answer is "not long" and "not far" then there's one reason to think twice about getting a Honda with a 1.5 liter turbo... "Oil dilution" in a car where the engine never warms up fully. https://vehiclefreak.com/did-honda-fix-the-turbo-engine-problems-of-2020-and-2021/ Like the article explains every car suffers from oil dilution if the engine isn't warmed up fully. My last job was only 13 km away and it only took 10-15 minutes each way. Driving a 6 cylinder Toyota 4WD FJ Cruiser got 6.3 km/l. But when I drove it on trips of 30-45 minutes and maybe 75-100km, I got 9.4 km/l, a big improvement. When the engine isn't warmed up, all cars get lower fuel economy. If you don't do longer drives, I'd recommend the Toyota Yaris Ativ. It still has a normal aspirated engine that can better handle oil dilution issues. I initially was attracted to the Honda City, but was concerned about the reliability of a turbo powerplant. Then I started considering used Citys, 2017-2018 that were before they started putting only turbos. But those cars hold their value in Thailand even though they have 50-100,000 kms on the car and I would only save about ฿100,000 and would have to take a chance the mileage wasn't altered or it was flooded in Bangkok or involved in an accident that was covered up with good quality body repair with well matched paint on any repairs. So, decided to get a new 2023 model with 0km in it. Already put down a ฿3000 deposit for one and it's anticipated to take 3-6 months for the dealer to get one, that's how popular they are. There's a simple reason for that... Cost. 2023 Honda City SV ฿665,000 2023 Toyota Yaris Ativ Smart ฿594,000 So, right off the start you're saving ฿70,000. And at the Toyota dealership I went to they offer a ฿15,000 discount if you pay cash. Maybe Honda will do the same...? I owned a Gen 2 Yaris Hatchback and it had a very basic look and feel. It also had a weird center console instrument cluster, which is different. But Thailand's Yaris ATIV is a Gen 4 Yaris that's a 2nd Gen ATIV that's undergone a major style and equipment refresh. The boot (trunk) is about 3 times bigger than Gen 2. Also it now has a "low to the ground" more sporty feel (only appearance, didn't test drive it). I'm sure the Turbo has a more peppy response when you step on it. I test drove a 2017 Mini which had a Turbo engine made by BMW and it was very peppy. But I don't need that. I'm not driving on a race track, 555. Where I drive there's so many traffic lights you don't need to go abovw 80km/hour because you're just going to have to stop at the next traffic light. The new Yaris ATIV is the leader in Eco cars in Thailand and they're planning on exporting it to 35 countries. https://www.bangkokpost.com/auto/review/2447852/toyota-eyes-top-thai-spot Top of the class. https://www.bangkokpost.com/auto/review/2368780/top-of-the-class

You're right in some vehicles it is stored in multiple places, including a BCM. The full name is BCM ECU. "BCM (Body Control Module) which is found in all production cars wherein it controls the immobiliser, indicator unit, power windows, ORVMs, steering mounted controls, and all other peripherals wherein the body of the vehicle is involved." Seems like a weird place to store the Odometer value, but OK. We never used that term before on the CAN bus at the automobile company I worked at. Each ECU was just called a "node". Each node sends out messages on the CAN bus with it's data that other ECUs need and also for diagnostics on the OBD port. And apparently even if it's stored in multiple places like on BMWs or Mercedes, it's still possible to change. I think this is highly unlikely this is a common practice here in Thailand. Sounds way too complicated. ???? https://youtu.be/VF62lZD3XPg

You're a consumer, not a SME engineer. By the way, engineers in the automobile industry test drive vehicles they design. And they have access to all the issues that come up during testing. Consumers don't. Engineers know what they are talking about. ✅ I'm sure you have a brain, but you don't know how it works like a SME brain surgeon does. That's the difference. ????

In America they have something similar but the guarantee doesn't mean that much. Read the contract, a lot is at the digression of the dealer whether or not it's covered. Every car manufacturer can make what's called a "lemon". How do you know in Thailand if that car isn't a lemon? I did see one "tent car" dealer claim you could drive one of their cars "free" for 60 days. If true, that time period would certainly help evaluate whether there were any major defects. And in America they have to tell you if the vehicle was a "fleet" car, which means it was leased or even worse--used as a rental car. Doubt they are required to do that in Thailand. And even if the previous owner was a private individual who purchased it new, what kind of person sells a new car after a year and takes that kind of financial loss? Someone who isn't very business savvy. People who are business savvy are focused on making money, saving money and investing money. Cars are not investments. People who are focused on spending money and showing you how rich they are tend not to be very financially smart, let's put it that way.

I'm a SME on EVs. You're not. Engineers don't make decisions based on opinions, they make decisions based on data. None of the cars in you bought were designed and built by people with "opinions", they were designed and built by Engineers. You already admit you don't care about the facts, only your opinion. I'm posting the following link for intelligent people who have an open mind and want to learn about the facts from educated SMEs who are Engineers working in the automobile industry: https://engineerine.com/why-are-chinese-cars-so-bad/

An intelligent person wouldn't buy an MG, they buy Toyotas and Hondas.

The quality of the original British MG was <deleted>. Did the Chinese use the British MG as their design baseline? Bad idea. Or did they do a "blank sheet" total redesign of everything? In that case, it's a 100% Chinese car, nothing to do with the original. Plus, they copied the "look and feel" of the Mini, not the MG. ????

That's just an opinion, not actual reliability data, Chairman Mao.

Yes. They don't call it Big Swampy for nothing. Also how many times did they get stuck in a traffic jam that lasted hours and it was hotter than <deleted> so they ran the engine for the A/C and it overheated?

It's called an ECU in the car industry in America. That's the main computer. And no, it's not stored in the ECU. Incorrect. ❌

BYD sold electric buses to the city of Albuquerque. ???? Read all about that "nightmare" here... https://www.americanmanufacturing.org/blog/report-examines-byds-failed-electric-bus-rollout-in-albuquerque/

Oh, I see the issue. You have an MG and believe the Chinese government, 555. No. A single charging station at a new gas station isn't a "national" charging infrastructure. ????

Go to Honda. They have a deal this month if you test drive a Honda, they give you a 200B gift card for Lotus. ???? Do you have a Thai drivers license or an International Drivers license? Or they didn't ask?

My wife used to work at a car dealership. She said they can change the mileage. It's true. A tech with an OBD plug and the right software can change the mileage. The mileage is stored in the Instrument cluster/ Odometer and if it's replaced techs are supposed to set the new Odometer mileage to the previous value. Not to mention labor is cheap here and they can cover up evidence of damage cheaply. That being said, I did purchase a used Honda SUV here in Thailand. 150,000km for under 300,000B. Maybe I got lucky?!? Did a bunch of work, replaced brake pads, belt, all fluids, etc for around 30,000B. Going to replace all four shocks this week. It's going to ride like a new car next week. ????

Toyota Thailand plans to export the Yaris Ativ to 35 countries. https://www.bangkokpost.com/auto/review/2447852/toyota-eyes-top-thai-spot

No, like I said my last job was with an EV startup in California. What's your experience working on EVs in Chinese factories, "Chairman Mao", I mean KhunLA? I don't think you are an Electrical Engineer with a four year degree, either. ???? But do go on with your propaganda. The reliability record of MGs in Thailand is not my opinion, but based on user reports of people who bought them and saw numerous "build" issues. https://www.thephuketnews.com/passion-drives-an-expat-nightmare-tale-of-his-new-mg-84978.php Feel free to post reliability data, if any.

Mazdas are cool looking ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM as their commercials in America used to say. More sporty handling and better looking than Toyotas or Hondas. But the engine and transmission doesn't last as long. That's why Toyotas and Hondas are so popular in Thailand. Thais are very practical people. They don't like wasting money repainting their concrete buildings because they know it's just going to peel off in the future and they'll "lose the money" ????

I'm all for EVs. My last job was with a small EV startup in California. However, it gave me an inside look at how many things can go wrong in the charging system. Usually it's glitches involved in the low level components, not the batteries. And you're taking a big chance on reliability with a Chinese vehicle, re: MG. But yeah, in 20 years if I am still alive the Thai charging network will be built out and most people will be driving EVs made in Thailand (probably assembled with components made in China or Japan). But I don't want to be an "early adopter" and have to suffer through all the issues. ????

That's actually in line with my current thinking. ???? After doing research, I learned that the Yaris has greatly improved since my Gen 2 2007 hatchback. In Thailand, the new Gen 4 Yaris ATIV subcompact sedan was launched in 2017 completely redesigned, with a 1.2 liter engine. Looking at a 2023 Toyota Yaris ATIV SV model with "leather" seats and all the bells and whistles including Toyota's Safety System collision warning, lane deviation, etc for B584,000. Thanks for the heads up. ????

Depreciating liabilities, to be specific as opposed to appreciating assets. The only question when buying a car new or used is "how much money do I want to throw away or lose"? Of course, cars do have value. You're getting something for all that money you're spending. Transportation. From point A to point B. Anytime you want. It's quicker than taking public transportation or walking. The bigger the sales price the more *potential* loss. ????