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No , Do you go to bed late ?

Slept through it.

Still asleep at 10am ??

Yes I did charge them.

Usually girls will come in pairs for safety reasons i guess but you can barter massage with them like I did with the 2 Swedish girls i had that stayed a few nights.

I always get things much cheaper by haggling friendly rather than aggressively and not only talking about stall or market stall holders but big Companies too.

And

I just had a lovely fish dinner.

Got the fish from a local fisherman for free after stopping and talking to him.

Sometimes it pays to be friendly and have a smile rather than go into bartering or haggling with a aggressive attitude.

I always see people make that mistake of using aggression when haggling over prices,far better to smile and be friendly,it doesnt always work but some even give you the item at cost price or even free.

I always get things much cheaper by haggling friendly rather than aggressively and not only talking about stall or market stall holders but big Companies too.

And if your haggling with a big Company such as a Airline or car rental company remember it pays to be polite because the employee can usually give you a discount and really they dont care if you buy or use their service anyway so always be polite and friendly when haggling.

Minimalists have their own small group in Pattaya..most of us are of Jewish background so we know each other and share things and help each other.

Sometimes if you put 2 single beds or bunk beds in your studio there are a lot of backpackers etc wanting cheap bed for short term accomodation.

Before I had German,Israeli etc even blonde girls share my room.

Of course you have to make sure your things are locked up etc if you dont know them,but i had 2 bunk beds on either side of the room before and always got short term backpackers staying.

I guess books are going out of style...who reads them except senior citizens?

Whilst people have Kindle ..i tend to think young people dont have the patience to read books nowadays.

Nothing to do with being a minimilist ,sounds like he has psychiatric issues.

I think one of the biggest is Canterbury Tales in Soi Chaiyapoon up near Soi Bukhao.

I love doing crosswords but hard to get crossword books.

Yes he was a classic case of a minimalist.

There he was in the picture dressed just in everyday clothes..Quiet lifestyle and never boasting of his wealth.

Ok please close the topic.

And this is what Pattaya needs to become a tourist city...i would have a bet every Real estate agent agrees with me.

James Packer one of the richest men in Australia...recently he just opened up another Casino with his Crown Casino group..he picked the Phillipines City of Manila !!!

Well obviously they are going to come down in price.

Actually funny you talk about water because I have a friend Moshe who lives over on the Flybird Condo who used to buy from the water machine but now swears by boiling the tap water and uses that for tea and coffee !

Why dont you look yourself? Are you that lazy ? You obviously dont live in Pattaya?

You are obviously not the smartest tool in the shed and you obviously dont know the Pattaya streets nor the investment market.

Im not trying to be rude to you but there comes a time in life when you shouldnt rely on others and to start thinking for yourself.

Its not your fault that your not a independent person but you need to start developing this because people wont always be around to be beside you and care about you.

You seem to need to depend on others to help you,you cant look after yourself by the sound of it but you need to do this because people will let you down.

For Gd sake get off ya big behind and walk around and look at Pattaya Real estate instead of waiting for someone to come around and hold your hand and lead you around !!

But there you are with your arms folded shouting "he wont tell me...he wont he wont..not fair its not ...he wont tell me..he wont he wont"

Do you need brand name leather wallets?

How many of us see tourists particularly Russian grovelling over buying wallets.

I had a friend today try to show me his real leather brand name wallet he bought for over 30,000 baht and I showed no interest so he stopped showing me.

Now im middleaged im not interested in carrying a expensive wallet around when a 50 baht wallet can do the job.

Why would I need a 30,000 baht genuine leather brand name wallet??

The title of this thread is a little pretentious. Minimalism conjures up something philosophical or spiritual, such as Zen Buddhism. The title should really be living cheap in Thailand, surviving on a shoestring or just how to get by just above the poverty line. Its all a bit sad and pathetic really.

I guess being a minimumilist is a type of religion or following a "way" of life.

Its not only about saving money but doing things simply in your lifestyle routine.

Nope, its not a religion, there is nothing spiritual about it, it isn't a philosophy, its isn't creative, its just a necessary way to exist when you don't have much money. You can glorify it if you want, pretend all those people in Thailand who have failed to save enough and must live in semi poverty and who embarrass their fellow countrymen are somehow heroic, even saintly, but actually they aren't, they're just desperate. Now, i don't mind living rather frugally, rejecting status symbol purchases, but i still spend far more than the average local, but to be honest, i wish some of the foreigners who have no choice but to live like a local would just stay home. I don't like thais assuming I'm in their country because i have no choice, but i can understand they might begin to have that opinion when they see so many westerners who choose Thailand as a cheap option because they a semi destitute. So please do us a favor and stop all this cheap charlie glorification and see it for what it is.

Last Friday I was at the Synagogue near where I live,they were actually speaking on a topic of being a minimalist and the benefits of this more if you are actually wealthy !!!!

I am becoming more and more a minimslist everyday and I have cash in my account,probaly enough to retire tommorrow to Thailand and never work again.

Will I waste it ?? No.

Right now im at home typing this with the lights off to save electrcity NOT only for the money saving side but also to conserve energy.

I havent used the cooking stove at all today because i cut up a salad for lunch.

Minimalism is as I said before not just a financial aspect to it but a philosphy.

Recycling and reusing things,I always re -use margarine and ice cream containers,Im sure most people do it to put odds and ends in them,I re -use coffee jars etc.

If you go into my friend Larry's spotless and organised studio in Jomtien you will see he has used the old ice cream plastic containers to store left over food etc.

Surely you dont buy garbage bags from the supermarket?...this only adds more plastic and costs more,when most people im sure re-use the supermarket grocery bags.Now they are practising this without knowing it.

How did he die and he didnt look very old?

Is it the guy on the right side of the picture?

Is RARO'S still for sale over there on the Darkside ?

There was a bit more in the Thai news. Prior to the attack, the victim, 53 year-old German tourist Martha Stabila (sp?) had just been on a sight seeing boat trip down the Bangkok Noi canal and was waiting at a bus stop by the Somdet Phra Pinklao Bridge.

She put her bag down on the pavement and one of the flower sellers, for reasons best known to himself, started rummaging through it to which she took exception and rebuked him. The attack happened after that.

She's reported to now be out of hospital and has travelled on to Koh Tao island, perhaps not the safest of places judging by recent news stories.

I guess thats being insecure in yourself and not being a realist and having to "pretend" theres no bad Thai people..only if their provoked,so this woman or any other victim caused their own problems.

There is a Psychology term for "apologists" but I forget it now.

I wonder why some people are like that?

Is it to "Block out" any negative feeling and keep in their mind thstceverythings rosy so to speak and its a perfect World?

Never forget the case of the Australian lady travel agent who was stabbed in the street in Phuket a few years ago.

I know we are not meant to discuss mod decisions, but can someone explain why someone who wants to get rid of a condo in Bangkok has had his post moved to Pattaya ?

If you read the OP post which with respect it seems you may overlooked it,but he states he wishes to swap his condo in BKK with someone in Pattaya.

I still see a few 26sqm condo sell for 400/450 k.Usual rental return is about 3 to 4k a month.

I would like to know where to buy condo's at 15K per sm. ? that would be way below land and build cost.

No he has more than 800k in his bank account.

He also saves 20k a month.

He also owns the studio condo he lives in.

Never think because you see some old pensioner or old woman in the supermarket haggling over what to buy that they have no money in the Bank.

Many minimalists are not poor.

Some choose that lifestye and its not necessarily just being frugal it also involves those who dont buy brand name t shirts but when a t shirt is needed they buy just the norm.

My mother was very very frugal...she even didnt even use brand name cleaning detergents ,only bought generic,she was leading that minimalist life not because she was poor..no but i guess because she grew up during the War and was in fear of spending money.

She lived by herself at 81yo in a Country area and even mowed the lawns in her garden herself because she didnt want to pay someone to do that.

Saving money probaly didnt do her much good,I told her to take holidays but she wouldnt.

She died of Cancer recently after being diagnosed just 2 months ago ,she still wouldnt spend money on getting Chemotherapy when she was slowly dying.

She decided there was no point i guess,in prolonging her life by a few months but be bedridden.

But this is when you might need money when your sick,because if you need treatment the doctors want to see cash...believe me.

Otherwise your going to be on a waiting list waiting weeks to see a cancer specialist your Cancer would have spread by then without any treatment then your up shits creek without a paddle.

Have the cash behind you.

Great stuff and it appears by the posts on here most of the minimalists are living out of Pattaya....the only problem with that is i suppose loneliness.

Especially if theres not a big Farang community there.

One poster said he lived by himself outside Chiang Rai somewhere in a minimalist lifestyle..sure and it sounds terrific and less pollution,more trees ,more fresher produce,grown your own veggies,cheaper prices etc BUT what if your not a loner and need people around you...this is why i guess many single minimalists choose Pattaya.

Were you guys not lonely living by yourselfs out there out of Chiang Rai ?

The title of this thread is a little pretentious. Minimalism conjures up something philosophical or spiritual, such as Zen Buddhism. The title should really be living cheap in Thailand, surviving on a shoestring or just how to get by just above the poverty line. Its all a bit sad and pathetic really.

Its not only about saving money but doing things simply in your lifestyle routine.

Minimalist is a lifestyle...