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But there is no denying there are severe social problems (maybe soon to be seen, depending on the decision of the grand jury) in USA. How do you assess the cost to US society?

Oh my goodness, the shooting of Michael Brown in Aug 14, a black man in a suburb of St Louis, by Darren Wilson a white police officer, and the pending grand jury verdict on whether to indict Wilson or not is an indicator of severe social problems in the U.S. These type things don't happen in other countries?

Yes, these types of things do happen in other countries. However, with conservative media (Faux News) consistently insisting that racism is dead in America, the shooting of Michael Brown, as well as numerous other deaths of black men caused by white police officers (Eric Garner, Oscar Grant, Wendell Allen, Timothy Russell, and many, many others), serve to point out the fact is that racism is alive and well. New evidence has just emerged showing that both the police departments of Ferguson and St. Louis have been lying about how far Brown was from Wilson when Wilson opened fire. The police have consistently asserted that Brown was 35 feet away, but new evidence shows that he was 148 feet away, as well as the fact that Anonymous has discovered that Wilson's girlfriend, and fellow officer of the Ferguson PD, has close ties to the KKK, which necessarily brings into question Wilson's own position on race. Midas's question was directed at the intangible costs of these types of social problems on the American economy and society. While those intangible costs may be incapable of being measured, and therefore not necessarily germane to the topic, your dismissal of his question was churlish at best, and, in itself not germane.

Ah yes another clueless wonder here on thaivisa The facts of this case are not known to anyone other than the grand jury and officer Wilson so you can stop with your insane partisan conjecture. We will all know the verdict and the facts of this case next week since in a rare instance for a grand jury everything will be made public, as far as murders of young black men in the U.S. goes 97% of all murders are BLACK ON BLACK CRIME, white on black crime is an extreme anomaly in the U.S. and those are the facts my friend, so you know where you can stick your racist BS Now go back and tune in NPR radio or MSNBC and stick your head back in the sand

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Sure looks like gold is continuing to trend downward from its approx $1,890 USD/ounce on 22 Aug 11.....now it's around $1,200. Goldbug accumulators have basically been losing money since Aug 11. But hey, accumulate all you want...someday it will start a long term trend back up again for a while....but when that "someday" will come and how long the trend will last is anyone's guess...maybe next week....maybe 10 years from now.

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“Goldbug accumulators have basically been losing money since Aug 11 “

You don't grieve over the money you pay out in insurance premiums year after year do you? alt=blink.png>

Similarly, I ( and many other gold bullion owners) don't grieve about any money lost on our gold bullion, which many regard purely as an insurance policy for what is inevitably coming…………

The Golden China Yuan Currency Is Coming

Peter Krauth writes: The U.S. dollar has been the world's de facto reserve currency for almost 90 years.

But this financial dominance may be nearing its end. it's no secret that China's been accumulating gold - a lot of gold.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article44053.html

Midas says "the golden china yuan currency is coming" , it's too bad that it will be a day late and a dollar(hahaha) short, since the chinese real estate bubble has already begun to burst and the chinese shadow banking system may not be far behind China will have enough internal strife to deal with to keep it busy for many years to come BTW the Swiss aren't foolish enough to pass this measure, and when it fails gold will continue to fall

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"Thailand's Board of Investment (BoI) admits that foreign investment is declining."

There is an important clue here. Western countries don't rely on foreign investments to drive their economies.

Only shitholes like Thailand and China who have NO technology of their own need foreign investors to come in and set up factories and hire their cheap labor and manufacture what was invented in the West.

These are the knuckle draggers of the world of technology both in what is manufactured and how it is manufactured. The foreign investors make the real money on what is manufactured and leave Thailand with the little dab of what's left.

Toyota talked Philippines, but what they really did was buy a big chunk of industrial land at Yangon Burma, and promise to build a deep water port there.

Thailand is the hub of nothing anymore due to its own unfriendly foreign investment laws.

If the USA does not require foreign investments who buys all the the debt? About 6 trillion is foreign held last time I checked. The USA is filled with investors with foreign accents like George Soros.

You write like the people living in the USA are from the USA. To use your nasty turn of phrase they are from shitholes and moved to the USA because of the trade and natural resources available there. The air in the West does not make people smart.

Foreign investment is declining in Thailand because of reasons in Thailand and the general decline in Thai trading partners like the recession in Japan and the economic problems in China. If China and Japan have problems Thailand is going to have problems this is not rocket science.

The way out is to make the Thai worker more productive. Look to the countries that have the most productive workers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_hour_worked

Thailiketoo, I believe that Never Sure said " western countries don't rely on foreign investment to drive their economies" you seem to have twisted that around a bit and said that the U.S. doesn't require foreign investment. The U.S. certainly welcomes foreign investment, as far as the rest of your post goes it is pretty much spot on and I think that the crux of much of Thailands problems going forward is that they have become perhaps too reliant on Japan and China, at a time when Japan and Chinas problems are just begining

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Toyota has sent warning signals to this administration , I would take those warning seriously if I was Thailand , if Toyota goes, so the others will follow. alt=coffee1.gif width=32 height=24>

"Toyota has sent warning signals to this administration" ??? I wasn't aware there was an "administration" in Thailand, I thought Thailand was under Military law??? Call me a radical thinker, but perhaps it is time for an election so that there can be an administration, a parliment and a prime minister- just a thought

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The Affordable Care Act is the single piece of legislation that will factor into Obama's legacy. Right now, it isn't looking so good.

Obama finally came out on the Gruber comments. Seems he just found out about it on Sunday morning in a pre-press conference briefing in Australia.

I know Australia is a little slow on current events but I always thought the President had people to tell him when there is a problem, anywhere in the world. Guess Valerie Jarrett was busy at a wine tasting or something.

I wonder if he also disagrees with what his SecState said in 2009 as well.

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Obama Speaks Out About Gruber For First Time

11:14 AM 11/16/2014

Chuck Ross is a reporter at The Daily Caller

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President Barack Obama addressed MIT economist Jonathan Gruber’s comments for the first time on Sunday.

“I just heard about this,” Obama told Fox News’ Ed Henry during a press conference at the G20 Summit in Australia. “I get well briefed before I come out here.”

“The fact that some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that I completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no reflection on the actual process that was run,” Obama said.

Article here: http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/16/obama-addresses-grubers-comments/

Apparently Obama forgot about the crisis meeting in the Oval office in which Gruber was not only present, but very much involved in ways to "tweak" Obamacare so that they could pull the wool over the eyes of the CBO and get Obamacare scored as revenue neutral Is the POTUS really that braindead or is this just another one of those Clintonesque things like "it depends on what the meaning of the word is ,is" This administration is backpedaling faster than an ISIS fighter moves when he sees an armed drone

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I don't trust them to be honest or truthful or in any way credible in any or all of their political statements, not at any time or ever.

The pot calling the kettle black.

You beat me to the punch there U.G.

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Indonesia has an army?

Yes, a very large one, and the latest in fighter aircraft.

However, the non-interest in ISIS just might have something to do with the fact that Indonesia is 85% Muslim.

The Indonesian ARMY has the very latest in fighter aircraft??? I am I to understand that Indonesia does not have an Air Force? In any event you are correct about the makeup of the Indonesian population, and there are many radical islamic extremeist groups within the country

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Why is it that people always seem to blame the poor and underprivileged for so many of the worlds problems? When in fact, that these immigrants are always being exploited and used to increase the wealth by their privileged masters. This is not just an American issue, but a worldwide issue. What ever happened to the belief in equality. All men are created equal?

It must be remembered that the US stole, what is now, the southwest US, including California and Texas and justified it with trumped up charges that led to the Mexican war. So, in my opinion Mexicans should have a chance to better their lives.

True example of hyperbole...

Sorry, I.m just doing my best to piss off the far right!!

Take off the blinders and smell the coffee there strapper, the U.S. electorate certainly did just that a couple of weeks ago Obama is toast, the only thing he will be doing for the next two years is using his veto pen, which is fine by me because then it will force those Democrat Senators who are up for reelection in 2016 to either override his veto or be on record for voting against items that the U.S. electorate want

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obama lifts middle finger to entire nation. Political stunt.

He had to do something dramatic to make himself feel relevent, too bad he chose to circumvent the Constitution

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If institutions such as mass communication and also public affairs journalism have no credibility or viability, whether right or left or somewhere in between, then how far out to either extreme do we have to go to get information and to analyze it....nevermind because that's a rhetorical question

Stepping outside the box or the proverbial circle is one thing, but entering another universe or dimension as with ZeroHedge is quite another matter entirely. The alternative of choice to the wingnuts.

Very little in print or via video or via a news caster or via TV personality is believable and has not been for at least 10 years...

The vast majority of news media of all sorts in the USA are nothing more that Propagandists for obama, democrats, gender politics, the gay agenda... anything liberal or leftist ... the only Conservative or moderate news one can read or hear in America comes from on line sources, talk radio and some of the Foxnews programming. Broadcast TV, Cable TV, Satellite TV and most major city news papers are totally biased for obama, democrats, etc, - plus Pro Muslim/Islam and totally biased against Republicans moderate or conservative and anything Christian or traditional.

But as we see from the mid term elections -a huge portion of the people are not in line with the Leftist media.

Your awesome midterm election result was the whacky will of the majority of the 38% that turned out to vote. That's 38% of registered voters, not of the general population.

It is the modern historical record in US politics and elections that the lower the rate of voter participation, the better the outcome for the Republican party.

It's conversely true that the greater the voter participation in an election, the better the outcome for the Democratic party.

That's because most people are Democratic party types whether or not they register to vote, and whether or not they actually vote. There is of course the exception to every rule, but the rule remains the rule.

Expectations for the 2016 election are that upwards of 60% of voters will go to their polling stations, which will be on par with other historical maximum turnouts, so you guys on that side over there still need to pump up the already very active Republican party voter suppression schemes and campaigns, cursing the MSM being one of 'em.

Hillary is not black nor is she likeable, add to that she has a couple of truckloads of very nasty baggage that will all be brought out for public viewing again Now go back to bed and keep on dreaming about that massive turnout for the Dems in 2016, because the only place you will see those numbers is in your dreams The blacks will not turnout in any numbers even close to either 2008 or 2012, the millennials also will not turn out anywhere close to the 2008 or 2012 numbers and a good percentage of these millennials will have smelled the coffee after they get their dose of a few years out in the "real world" and will become Republicans. Bring on Jeb Bush and John Kasich who are both wildly popular in their home states of Ohio and Florida and the Republicans virtually sew up the 2016 election as there is no road to the White House for the democrats without Ohio or Florida

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It's clear to everyone how much you want to believe this, but this it's just not true. But feel free to prove me wrong and post all the federal, state and local ballots which explicitly show his policies on the ballot.

And just so there is no misunderstanding, I didn't vote for Obama either. But he won twice, and rather handily.

Up country, If you think that this was just a regular mid term election then you haven't been paying very much attention to the results across the country. This mid term was all about the Obama Presidency and the way the Democrats have been governing (or not governing in the case of Harry Reid), not only did the Republicans move from 45 to take a majority of the seats in the Senate, they will have at least 54 seats and perhaps 55 when the dust clears if there is a recount in Virginia, add to that a much larger increase in the House seats to a number that they have not seen since just after WW2, but that's only half the story the Republicans won a substantial majority of the Governors seats the most critical of which were in OHIO and FLORIDA, but they even won the Governorship in Democrat states like Illinois, Michigan and Wisconson, and when you dig down deeper you will find that they now control more State legislatures than they have since the 1920's So to say that Obama wasn't on the ballot is not only being simplistic, but you are missing the entire picture of what just happened last Tuesday in the U.S., it was a seismic shift that will have ramification well beyond the 2016 elections alt=wai2.gif width=20 height=20>

I pay attention to what history says about midterm elections:

Since 1912, presidents have lost an average of 32 House seats in their first midterm and 29 in their second.

In the past 100 years only one two-term president gained House seats in his second midterm: Bill Clinton, who picked up five in 1998. In the senate (going back to FDR) the president’s party has been more likely to lose senate seats than gain seats in the first midterms. Even presidents now considered popular lost Senate seats. FDR lost 6 in 1938 and 9 in 1942. Dwight Eisenhower lost 13 in 1958. Ronald Reagan lost 8 in 1986.

Up country, The results are in my friend , just take those blinders off and look at the big picture and stop cherry picking your facts

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The results are worse than I thought they would be, but remember who votes in a presidential year is VERY DIFFERENT than who votes in midterm years. Hillary is good to go!
TO THE WHITEHOUSE! alt=clap2.gif>

name one accomplishment Hillary did a Secretary of State?

I can't think of any major accomplishments that she achieved as Sec. of State, however she did make one brilliant move when she sent Susan Rice in her place to lie to all 5 Sunday morning news shows that Benghazi happened because of an off color video That was really classic Hillary at her best I mean poor Susan Rice was already viewed as a very incompetent individual who was given a political post for helping out with the campaign, and so Hillary felt why not just throw her under the bus and send her out to lie to all those Sunday morning political shows, it supposedly gives Hillary an out when this issue comes up! Not too worry though, Hillary has more baggage than a busy bellman at the MGM Grand on busy weekend There is enough of the U.S. electorate that voted for Obama that now has buyers remorse, so I don't think we need be concerned about Hillary becoming President anytime soon

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Republicans had a chance to beat Senator Obama in 2008 and they didn't. They also had a chance to beat him in 2012 and they didn't.

But they've beaten him in a mid-term election in which he wasn't even on the ballot?

Some posters are going to hurt their backs by setting the bar so low. alt=giggle.gif>

Ah, but you see, his policies were on the ballot.

It's clear to everyone how much you want to believe this, but this it's just not true. But feel free to prove me wrong and post all the federal, state and local ballots which explicitly show his policies on the ballot.

And just so there is no misunderstanding, I didn't vote for Obama either. But he won twice, and rather handily.

Up country, If you think that this was just a regular mid term election then you haven't been paying very much attention to the results across the country. This mid term was all about the Obama Presidency and the way the Democrats have been governing (or not governing in the case of Harry Reid), not only did the Republicans move from 45 to take a majority of the seats in the Senate, they will have at least 54 seats and perhaps 55 when the dust clears if there is a recount in Virginia, add to that a much larger increase in the House seats to a number that they have not seen since just after WW2, but that's only half the story the Republicans won a substantial majority of the Governors seats the most critical of which were in OHIO and FLORIDA, but they even won the Governorship in Democrat states like Illinois, Michigan and Wisconson, and when you dig down deeper you will find that they now control more State legislatures than they have since the 1920's So to say that Obama wasn't on the ballot is not only being simplistic, but you are missing the entire picture of what just happened last Tuesday in the U.S., it was a seismic shift that will have ramification well beyond the 2016 elections

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Dow closed at 17,005 today. Nasdaq 4,564 and S&P at 1,985. I hope no one took the market advice of the few and the OP and went short when OP article came out. That was a quick bounce.

Ooops, don't look now but the DOW just set another record I wouldn't worry too much about the finances of the barstool trollers here, I doubt very much if they have enough Euros, Pounds, Pesos or Baht to invest in anything alt=thumbsup.gif> Speaking of which I see that the Euro is down near the $1.25 level and the Pound isn't doing much better, and this is without the Yanks even raising interest rates, just imagine what is going to happen when the FED starts to raise rates next year alt=whistling.gif> Methinks that Goldman Sachs was correct a couple months back when they predicted Euro-Dollar parity by the end of 2015!

The rich in the US are doing just fine, it's all the rest of the population that isn't doing too well. Most people don't invest in the stockmarket.

You are correct, and in many of the threads here today the point that is being made is that even though Obama rails against the rich 1 percenters, the fact is that under the 6 years of Obama the 1 percenters have been getting substantially wealthier and the middle class has been getting screwed, and the middle class in America finally woke up and smelled the coffee yesteday and voted the Obama clones out of office

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This sums it up nicely:

Canman, This is outstanding, I'm still in tears from laughing so hard Someone sent me something similar to this a while back but it dealt with how Capitalism is viewed by the various socioeconomic groups in the U.S. , I'll try and see if I can find it and post it here.

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He is a good President and a descent person.

I hope the USA people would recognise that and give him the control of the Senate and the House of Representatives.

Honour your good people.

Sadly, the truth is that he is among the worst Presidents in U.S. history and he is also a pathological narcissist. I say this not to insult the man, a famous FBI psych profiler did a workup on Obama shortly after he was elected and Obama fit the clinical profile of a pathological narcissist perfectly, and thus far (6 years later) he has lived up to that profile My guess is that he will not compromise and work with the new Republican majority to any great extent, he will continue ignoring the U.S. Constitution and to that end he could very likely put himself in jeopardy of facing an impeachment! Perhaps a fitting end to a man that had no experience for a job like this in the first place! Now all you tunnel vision liberals here can continue with throwing the terms "racist" or "redneck" around, however in the end just like Obama you will have to wake up and smell the coffee some day (hopefully soon than later?) alt=wai2.gif width=20 height=20>

Thank you Dr. Freud ! alt=laugh.png>

Trouble is there are several Dr. Freud types that post regularly to TVF. Together they have created a TVF pseudo Dr. Freud of a right wingnut multiple personality disorder. This is evident in the multiple political posts made over time by the various TVF self-appointed Drs. Freud of the far right.

So there are a lot of pedestrian and ameteur rat psychology Drs Freud around here. The fact and reality are that the Rat Psyke 101 TVF Drs Freud are motivated entirely by political bents and racial superficialities. Each of their/his bent out of shape posts in fact consists of banal and sophomoric stuff that presents only political tripe.

No active FBI professional for example did what you said he did. If anyone FBI did what you said, he did it on his own time in retirement and because of political bents entirely, same as the untenable post itself comes from a far right political bent.

It is in fact American political tradition to get a psyke expert to say a public official is pathological, to include being stark raving mad alt=clap2.gif> alt=cheesy.gif width=32 height=20> .

It's just well past time to say something sensible and credible.

Publicus says "It's well past time to say something sensible and credible" at the end of his post, perhaps he should have opened up his post with this sentence and then continued on from there The FBI profiler I mentioned was indeed retired at the time, however the Bureau did call upon his expertise on certain cases even after his retirement as he was very well thought of, as far as his political affiliation goes I really can't speak to that, but many of those types are apolitical. I'm sorry if I offended your tender sensibilities that you hold for Obama by speaking the truth, but reality is that yesterday the U.S. electorate finally saw that the "emperor had no cloths" and woke up and smelled the coffee, perhaps due to your strong and personal feelings for Obama it will just take you a while longer? Good luck my friend

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It's a TEA party in the old town tonight. Seriously who votes in midterms? Angry white men. HILLARY coming to the rescue!

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Hillary? The Belle of Benghazi?? "Rescue" isn't exactly her forte is it...

I'll bet dartboards with her picture on them would be big sellers in the Foreign Service commissaries! Hmmm.

As well as every U.S. military installation worldwide Forget the Presidency, Hillary has far too much baggage to even get elected dog catcher! Obamas obstinance, arrogance and mismanagement has left Hillary little chance of getting elected, she would have been much better off not to have taken the post of Sec. of State and instead spent her time on humanitarian missions or trying to pretend that she is "middle of the road". At this point in time a Hillary Presidency will be looked on as Obamas 3rd term and the American public made it very clear yesterday that they already regret electing Obama to the second term, bottom line is that Hillary Clinton=Toast