Jay2013

Im getting them signed before i travel to thailand. If you cannot travel to the uk use dhl which is very fast and reliable.

I have used a accountant who is a friend in the uk as my countersigniture. If asked he will say he has seen jay through skype which is a video calling program. Ive read a by some its not needed for international applications and by others it is. If availible get it done to be on the safe side.

I have decided to use my sons thai address and also give my UK address in the additional details bit of the form and provide a few letters showing this just incase they ask me at a later date and waste time.

jay, uk passports can only be collected from the trendy building in Bangkok where the application has to be submitted. I think I will just use my sons thai address as the application is for him and I don't think I will need to show proof of me living in Thailand as the HMPO should understand its an international application and im his british father and it would be impossible for me to provide proof of me living in Thailand when in reality I don't.

It can only be collected where submitted as far as i understand which is bangkok. Section 2 is about my son who has never been to the uk so it wouldnt make sense to put a uk address, but as far as ive read because im applying on behalf of him as hes a child i need to also provide proof i live at the address who im submitting the application on behalf of him which i dont understand how i can do....

Thank you for the info. Can anyone help me with my first question??

Ok so i will not include it because at the time of me completing the application form for a uk passport my son wouldnt have had a thai passport but at the time of me submitting it, he would, just hope the HMPO cant find out he does have a thai passport or will once i get to bangkok

ok I have a few more questions for anybody who can help me with regards to the application:

1. in regards to section 2 of the application form I will be using my sons Thai address where he has been staying since he was born which is the address on his tabien baan, but I am not named on the tabien baan which I will be submitting with the application. Would this be accepted as proof of address? If they need proof of me also living in Thailand I don't see how this is possible as I don't live their? If I use a uk address I would be lieing as my son doesn't live in the uk, but this only means I can submit proof of myself living at the uk address and not him. What have other people done about this? Does the person filling in the form have to show proof of address for himself? I assumed not but I have read contrary info.

2. I plan on getting my fiancés and sons Thai passports made on the day I land and then adding this information to section 3 of the british passport application form and submitting copies of the passports with the application, only dilemma I have is that on the countersignature bit of the form it says It should only been filled out after the rest of the form has been completed. would they get to know if I add these details after the countersignature part of the form has been filled in first. Should I wait until after I've submitted my sons british passport application to get their Thai passports made? I wanted to submit them with the application because I assume it would make his case for a British passport stronger. If I inform the person doing the countersignature that I plan on doing this, would that be ok? He knows already but would the HMPO get to know as the date of issue on the thai passports will be after the signature date of the person doing the countersignature.

Hi all / swadee kap,

I will be submitting my sons British passport application and as most of you already know I will need to get a number of documents professionally translated and notarised to English to submit with the application. Now do any of you know a place on sukhumvit where I could get this done at decent prices as I've read the trendy building charges much more compared to other places for photocopies and translations. my hotel is on 12/3 sukhumvit 22.

Thank you

what about people travelling from the UK, what are the rules? I was never asked to show any flight tickets when applying for my thai tourist visa? What is a waiver paper im a little confused here? . Im travelling with thai airways, has anybody here ever travelled on a one way ticket to Thailand and had issues?

Be prepared.

If you are travelling alone with the child, and the child is using a Thai passport, you will need a letter of consent written by the child's mother, with a declaration of the authenticity of the letter, and signature witnessed by an official at her local amphur, and the letter stamped with the stamp of that amphur.

I have personal experience of this requirement, as last year I travelled alone to UK with my grandson, (he holding two passports - departing on Thai passport, arriving UK on British Passport) me on British Passport only, all with same family name, without such a letter. After significant interrogation, and lengthy phone interrogation of my daughter (child's mother) and computer check on her ID card number by Immigration at Suvarnabhumi, we were allowed to leave, and told "next time, present a letter of consent from the mother". The helpful official explained that because of cases of child snatching, and international trafficking of children, even if we both departed on Thai passports, such a letter would be required before the child could leave the country.

I am making same trip with grandson this autumn, and will have letter written by my daughter, signature witnessed and letter stamped by amphur to make sure the departure is an easy one.

As an old fahrang travelling alone with a 5 year old Thai boy, I am totally in agreement with, and understand such a requirement. I was only sorry my ignorance of it could have cost me my trip, were I to have encountered a less sympathetic immigration officer.

I cannot comment on any requirement for documentation if both departing on UK passports.

Enjoy your upcoming trip with your child.

I plan on getting my fiancés and sons thai passports made on the day I land and submit these with the british passport application 5 days later. Only dilemma I have now is that the countersignature bit of the british passport application states he should only fill in that part of the form once the rest of the form has been completed, and I plan on getting this filled before I leave and adding my sons thai passport details to the form once ive reached Bangkok and acquired his passport. Do you think the HMPO would notice this? If questioned I was planning on saying that I had the forms couriered to and from the uk. What do you guys suggest? Should I submit his application and then apply for a thai passport, or get the passport first and just add the thai passport number and details to the british passport form and hope for the best.

Thanks for the info, I shall type out a letter stating my sons mother gives me permission to travel with him to the uk and get this translated into thai and then signed by my fiancé and stamped in witness at her local ampur, and also have my sons birth cert and a English translation (incase I get interrogated at heathrow) to be on the safe side when leaving swampy. I would like to be legitimised as the father, but simply don't have the time on this visit to go through that process and am glad I will be allowed to travel with my son without going through this process, but will do this at a latter date or once ive married her, or hes old enough to just get it done at an ampur, Although my wife has told me, her Aunt is the village head and has 'contacts' at the local ampur and we may be able to get this done without going through the courts. I will give this a shot and see if I get lucky, if not I guess it will have to wait.

Many thanks guys.

Right I am beginning to understand this all somewhat.

So I am right in thinking, As long as I have a parental consent form giving me permission to travel with my son from Thailand to the UK if he is successfully issued his British passport, then I don't need to be legitimised as the father first in order to travel with him without his mother? Does anybody know the name of this form?

Thanks for the responses guys

what is the easiest and quickest way to legitimise me as the father, apart from getting married? Shes willing to do anything with me at the local ampur. Ive tried explaining this all to her but shes insisting I am the legitimate father as im on the birth cert, but I have obviously read different on this forum.

many thanks for the info guys.
With regards to the passport pics, am I correct in thinking they take the pics at the office with the cameras at the desks they have or do I need to take passport pics and print them of before going to apply?

are the rules different between the uk and usa in terms of visas and flights? I have just been given a tourist visa within the last month which is valid for 6 months and allowing me to enter twice. I have only booked a one way flight to Thailand as im not sure when I want to come back. would they ask me to produce a return flight proof at immigration in Thailand or here at heathrow? I was planning on booking accordingly whilst I was out there. Any info appreciated.

hi all, swadee kap,

Im a little confused on a certain situation with regards to my half thai son.

I am named on his birth certificate as the father but was not present at his birth, but did provide copies of my passport to my girlfriend in order to get my name written

on his birth cert. He has an English name as ive also read this can be an issue with thai authorities.

I understand this does not legitimize me as the father in Thailand.

questions:

1) Do I need to be legitimized as the father in order to apply for a british passport for him or would providing his birth cert which I am named on be ok?

2) When I travel to London with him if he gets his british passport, what would I need in order for him to be allowed to travel with me without his mother,

would copies of his birth cert and translation and a signed agreement from our local ampur saying she gives me permission to travel with him and I have responsibility for him be ok?

3) Does it matter if I am legitimized in Thailand if I plan on raising him in the uk until hes an adult?

4) If I register his birth with the british consulate and get a uk style cert, would this suffice as me being his legal father in Thailand?

all in all, all I care about at the moment is getting his british passport and being allowed to travel with him back to England alone which my girlfriend is allowing me to do and for this, im assuming I don't need to be legitimized as the father in Thailand.

Any help appreciated, thankyou

thanks for the help guys, i shall not be going bangna now, but thanya park.

he doesn't have a id card as he is only 2 - should he? I though it wasn't possible for a child that young. We will in aryanpradet which is close to the Cambodian border but I have booked a hotel in Bangkok for a week due to the fact I need to also apply for his british passport.

Hi I will be applying for my thai born sons thai passport next week. After reading info on the mfa website it says my girlfriend must provide a por kor 14 form which means she has sole guardianship of my son in order to apply for his thai passport, if we are not married?. We will both be present at the passport office. Would they ask for this if we are both present?

Now the problem I have is, I don't want the thai authorties to think she has sole guardianship of our son, when in reality that's not the case, we just aint married, so I don't want to make this document to apply for my sons passport.

Has anybody else made a thai passport for there child but was not married at the time of the application? I was under the impression that all they needed was his birth cert and tabien baan.

Here is the link: http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/1415/21479-Requirements-for-the-Ordinary-e-Passports-Applicat.html

? where has it relocated? Can anybody else confirm this?

thankyou guys

My hotel is booked on sukumvit road, which one would be closest to this?

Hi all/ swadee kap,

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I will be travelling to Bangkok next week and would like to apply for a THAI passport for my thai girlfriend and thai born son.

I have been to the consular website but cannot an address of where in Bangkok I need to go in order to make the application, Can anybody help me with this?

Has anybody had any experience of doing this recently? I would like to apply for the fast track service where the passport is ready for pickup after 2 days.

What sort of time frame would I be looking at to apply at the passport office and more importantly, where is the office in Bangkok and how long would it take to reach from Sbummy airport.

Thankyou.,

Hi Chaps

I want to apply for a passport for my son. I am a British National and my wife is Thai. My son was born in Thailand, does he need to apply for a Thai passport first or can I go ahead and apply for the British passport?

I have been on the UK passport site, but it doesn’t make it clear if he needs to obtain the Thai passport before applying for the the British one. Also I am working in Saudi Arabia and my kid is in Thailand.

Anyone guidance you can provide would be much appreciated.

Regards

Sam Coyle

NO, he doesn't need a thai passport in order to apply for a british one.