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Muslim nations are outraged, too.

It was conclusively shown by various media investigations that Abu Akleh, an American citizen, was killed by an IDF sniper. Israel trying to blame Palestinian gunmen was patently false, since the fighting at the time was in another direction from the IDF fire which involved multiple shots at the journalist. The intentional nature of this crime was ignored by the White House for political reasons, apparently. Just another example of White House complicity in apartheid.

Is there a break in the video between the sky shot of rocket trajectory and the explosion? If the source is al Jazeera, has anybody checked their original broadcast? Where were they filming the rocket trajectory?

There are probably thousands of witnesses. First, X should verify (if possible) the identity of the poster. Second, in the dark is it possible to verify location, position of person filming geographically relative to explosion site, trajectory of rocket prior to breakup. Third, international war crimes investigators should have immediate access to the hospital to document any evidence of type of munition involved, obtain other video if available, so that if IDF is the culprit the people involved can be charged. Let's hope that the US is compelled to let a resolution to investigate pass in the Security Council.

I think that the Hamas vow is impossible to achieve. Unfortunately it gives hardliners in Israel the excuse to implement further apartheid measures against Palestinians, even those who are Israeli citizens.

We all know that Hamas started this conflict. The point I was maikng is that the 6000 bombs were dropped on residences including high rises, not military targets, before the evacuation order. Now we have 500 people killed in a hospital bombing and the meeting in Amman to discuss humanitarian access canceled.

So then why did Jimmy Carter author a book in 2006 called 'Palestine - Peace Not Apartheid'?

You said kill ALL Jews. Maybe some Jews would get killed in the process of their concept of liberating their homeland. At one point they even said that they would accept Israel under the terms of the Peace Initiative. As that was a hypothetical at the time, it was something with no obligation for them in the near future.

They might be Christian Zionists, possibly more morally decrepit than normal Zionists. Some want to see Israel in possession of Jerusalem for the "End of Days" when they can go to Heaven while Jews (unless they convert) will go the other way.

When the EU funded schools built in Area C, they were demolished. https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/education-challenges-area-c-west-bank-february-2022

This talking point is great for deflecting from any consideration of the underlying issues.

Let's hope we stop hearing about judicial "reforms".

Hamas sticks to their territory and surroundings, while Al Qaeda and ISIS are international operators. This makes a huge difference and is why it will be much more difficult, if not impossible, to eliminate the Hamas - ideology and mentality - amidst the population. It's the common experience they have endured under occupation and siege.

All that bombing happened before the evacuation order. As for continuing Hamas rockets, Israel has declared war. Maybe they are using up their stocks.

It was always about elections for the Palestinian parliament, so Gaza and the West Bank. I seem to remember that after the 2006 elections, the Hamas winners in the West Bank were arrested by Israel. Obviously, today Fatah would not want elections because they have done a poor job in the West Bank. There could be alternatives to the two if elections could be held after the dust settles.

Reconciliation is wonderful, but it takes compromise from both sides. How many settlers are they willing to remove from the West Bank (and turn over buildings to Palestinians with hotheads deported to Israel)?

I doubt that Hama can be eliminated. Hopefully Biden's visit will impress on IDF planners the imperative to avoid targetting hospitals and civilian refuges. Can you cite Hamas documents about killing all Jews or a caliphate? These sound like talking points for a certain narrative, i.e. they are Isis equivalents. Documents collected from dead Hamas fighters show that there was detailed planning of the places to attack. No report I've seen has mentioned Hamas documents related to the festival site, though. Was that opportunistic?

Try to look at the big picture.

I accept Israel in the 1949 borders. However, apartheid in Israel should end. Let's pray for an epiphany leading to the enactment of a constitution echoing the noble sentiments of the Israeli Declaration of Independence. The smaller Gaza becomes, the more difficult it becomes to support a growing population. The problem in the Israeli government is that Netanyahu depends on the loons to stay in power. Just as in the US, the fringe can steer policy in their direction.

Evidently you don't follow US legal issues relating to suppression of student groups advocating for Palestine on campuses. The alleged chanting you cite would be more serious if it were directed at other students as incitement to harm them. What's going on now in the West Bank should concern you more as a moral person, i.e. the wanton killings by settlers.

It would be problematic if the Israeli government were to set up a government of locals as they would be viewed as collaborators. So it would be more practical (if stability is desired) to have a UN/Arab transitional administration.

There are protests on campuses and Jewish students claiming distress, who are then used by well-funded groups to invoke Title IX for lawfare to suppress the protesting campus groups. This has gone hand-in-hand with a campaign to alter the legal definition of anti-semitism to conflate criticism of Israeli policy with classic anti-semitism in order to limit freedom of speech.

The problem is the extreme loons in the current Israeli government. They want it all: Gaza and the West Bank. I don't think that moving the border to Wadi Gaza would protect Tel Aviv. It would just be a pretext for gobbling up the northern half of Gaza. Maybe a cordon sanitaire carved out of the southern leftover of Gaza would be next, to protect the kibbutzim near the border. Maybe the moral hazard of having set up these kibbutzi next to hundred of thousands of recently aggrieved people should be factored in to the morality of further reducing the habitable area for 2.2 mn people.

Time will tell.