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The NIE is only the tax number.
I don't think your wife  can cross the schengen border only with a tax number.

Issuing a residence card is mandantory due to the eu directive for family members. 

Right and if you have a thai marriage certificate it is maybe a good idea to get a legislation for Spain from the spanish embassy in BKK.

Example for the forms:
http://extranjeros.empleo.gob.es/es/ModelosSolicitudes/Mod_solicitudes2/index.html

The procedure for the eu citizen (only available in spanish):
http://xtranjeros.empleo.gob.es/es/InformacionInteres/InformacionProcedimientos/CiudadanosComunitarios/hoja102/index.html

The procedure for the family member:
http://xtranjeros.empleo.gob.es/es/InformacionInteres/InformacionProcedimientos/CiudadanosComunitarios/hoja103/index.html

After you applied for the Certificado de registro de ciudadano de la Unión via form EX-18  your wife apply for a Tarjeta de residencia de familiar de ciudadano de la Unión via form EX-19.
The Tarjeta de residencia for 5 years is the residence card.
The NIE can also be applied via EX-18 and EX-19.

Point to Allgemeine Verwaltungsvorschrift zum Freizügigkeitsgesetz/EU .

Paragraph 2.4.2.1
Die Verweisung des § 2 Absatz 4 Satz 2 bezieht sich ausschließlich auf die Regelung der Visumpflichtigkeit.

Paragraph 2.4.4
Im Rahmen der örtlichen Gegebenheiten sind ihre Anträge unverzüglich anzunehmen, zu bearbeiten und zu entscheiden.
Ein Zustimmungsverfahren nach § 31 AufenthV findet nicht statt.

The sentence from Paragraph 2.4.2.1 means the Aufenthaltsgesetz is only applicable for the question if a visa is needed or not. More is not allowed.

Paragraph 2.4.4 means the visa application has to be processed immediately. Asking the foreigner office in Germany is not allowed. 

Article 5 of the directive 2004/38 give the right of entry for family members.
Article 134 of the schengen convention exclude provisions which are not compatible with community law.
Therefore the visa code article 6(1) is not applicable for family members of eu citizen.

The right of entry cannot be denied because the family member is not staying in his home country.

Refer to "Allgemeine Verwaltungsvorschrift zum Freizügigkeitsgesetz/EU" paragraph 2.5.1

The content in short:
The first 3 month are unconditional and can be used as preparation for a longer stay.

You can additionally point out that a family member of a eu citizen is not subject to the Aufenthaltsgesetz.

19 hours ago, NanLaew said:

I am talking about non-Brits getting a leg-up on the UK Immigration laws which is what the BBC article in the OP embraces. You are talking about Len from Dorking who retired to Ubon over 6 years ago but suddenly can't qualify for a marriage extension any more so when he wants to take the once beguiling Noi back home with him, he finds he (still) hasn't a pot to piss in.

The story about Len is exactly the theme.
If he want to fake a life in Ireland and get his Mia Noi into the UK via this scam route he has to find 25,000 pound first.

The surinder singh route is not working without a corresponding Briton. 

The Britons who could afford it don't need it and the Britons who could need it cannot afford it.

14 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

We are talking about foreigners who are not in the UK yet. How can they be on the bloody dole?

 

Think harder... like outside the box.

Do you understand what the Surinder Singh route is?
A Briton would have to fake his life in Ireland if he want to go the 25,000 pound path and pour his money down the drain.
 

Where should the money come from? I guess if you are on the dole you have no 25,000 pounds spare money.

Paying 25,000 pounds for a scam and are not able to fulfill the minimum income sounds not so likely.

Where is the problem with the spanish embassy?
The main issue with UK verified marriage certificate is already solved. 
 

I guess the demand for a birth certificate is a misunderstanding.
If you register your address/residence in Germany at the town hall you need either Passport/ID-card or a birth certificate.

On 11.1.2017 at 8:47 AM, MaprangHolmes said:

So emailed   JUST-CITIZENSHIP {at} ec.europa.eu  and got his reply, which if I am honest I can not make any sense off. 

 

Dear Colleagues,

 

This might be for you as it concerns general rules set out in the visa code.

 

Many thanks,

Kind regards,

 

 

 

If you want you can ask them what they think about article 134 schengen convention.

Article 134

The provisions of this Convention shall apply only in so far as they are compatible with Community law.

The directive 2004/38 is community law.

4 hours ago, MaprangHolmes said:

Anyone got any other ideas?

A schengen visa can be applied 3 month in advance of the planed travel date.
If you can prove the dependency of your mother in law you could apply for a visa for a family member of a eu citizen via the schengen application form in BKK.

Example:
Mark other at field 21 at the application form and write family member eu.
Field 24 mark multi entry.
Field 25 the number 90 for 90 days
Field 29 1. june 2017
Field 30 add 179 days giving 27. September 2017

That would give a visa valid from 1. june to 27. september for 90 days in this period.
   

I thought the yellow buses are going from north Pattaya bus station to Rayong.

She don't need a national visa.
She is subject to the Freizügigkeitsgesetz/EU (german implementation of the EU directive 2004/38) as a family member of a eu citizen in Germany and not to the Aufenthaltsgesetz (national german immigration law). 

It makes no sense to apply for a national visa.
A family member of a eu citizen is simply not subject to the national german immigration law.
Normally a visa for the family member of eu citizen has to be applied. Such a visa is being issued as schengen visa with the text "family member of a eu citizen/EEA citizen" in german in the remarks section.

Simply saying the parent is dependent doesn't help. You have to prove it.

The direct relative in ascending line has to be dependent to be counting as family member in the sense of the directive.

The problem is article 2 section 2 letter d of the directive.

2)
"Family member" means:
.
.
(d)
the dependent direct relatives in the ascending line and those of the spouse or partner as defined in point (b);

I read here "dependent".

https://fr.tlscontact.com/th/bkk/page.php?pid=Family_EU_less90

3 hours ago, baansgr said:

She may want to check if she aquires Thai nationality that she will loose Dutch citizenship.

The old lady is thai since birth.
The question is how to prove it.

A birth certificate should be enough to prove the thai citizenship. 86 years ago jus soli (citizenship through born on the territory of a state) was valid in Thailand. The thais changed it in the seventies.