bob, if you go to the girly bars where the locals go, there are no tanned bar girls. Anyway, this whole discussion is really pretty pathetic at its core. One type of skin color isn't better than the other, nor is one any worse than the other. It all comes down to what somebody finds attractive. And to each his own. I barely find any Asian women physically attractive anymore, unless they are of a certain minimum height, weight, and physical fitness. But at this point, we're just talking about superficiality. A lot of the times the women that I end up being most attracted to are not necessarily ones that I'm physically attracted to because it eventually comes down to other things. Personality, integrity, character, compatibility, sexuality, etc.