Bkk Brian

Why do you think the IDF were there? Of course the hostages are part of the discussion. That's why the war is going on because the terrorists will not release them and carry on their war crimes daily using ambulances, hospitals and civilians as human shields. Sounds like you'd prefer to forget about those inconvinient facts.

Zero evidence has been provided of these Paramedics being Hamas terrorists in disguise. Patience......... In the initial findings from its investigation of the incident, the military asserted that at least six of those killed had been posthumously identified as Hamas operatives. It has not yet named the operatives, and is expected to do so only once its probe is concluded. https://www.timesofisrael.com/red-crescent-says-autopsies-show-slain-gaza-medics-were-shot-with-intent-to-kill/

Burying evidence? It was the IDF who informed the UN where the bodies were and they were buried because of the real possibility that dogs would eat them as has been happening with bodies in Gaza.

Oh look, a lame attempt at equivalence to Israel and the terrorists. What a sad apologist.

There are two sides. Hamas and Israel, why would you believe the terrorists?

Then perhaps go to one of the topics already running on it. My post was not about that, it was about the terrorists releasing the hostages and stopping the human sacrifices and destruction. ie the war!

The killing, human sacrifices and destruction stops. Its in my post If you want to ask what happens after that then I do not hold a crystal ball. Step by step

Why does Hamas not release the hostages so all this can end? Instead it uses civilians as human shields while its murderous terrorists hide among them. Then uses their human sacrifices as pure propaganda for their continued war against Israel. The death and destruction is all down to Hamas.

Hamas thinks so. As do you. You asked me what I think before then dismissed what I think so enough of the baiting. My views are already posted

What on earth has that to do with the post your responding to? Regards an investigation, some here have Israel guilty already before one has been carried out.

Indeed, ironically a UNRWA worker was one of those allegedly killed in the incident with the medics. But there is also that viral clip of one of the UNRWA operatives kidnapping a dead body to take as hostage back to Gaza, the hostages mum has even been to the UN to complain. Now here's Hamas jumping in on the propaganda, sicko's Hamas Slams White House Over Aid Worker Killings Hamas condemned Hughes' words in a Monday press statement saying they were "nothing but lies, lacking any evidence." It said they "represent a horrific example of unethical solidarity with the Nazis of our time." "Hamas uses ambulances and more broadly human shields for terrorism. "President Trump understands the impossible situation this tactic creates for Israel and holds Hamas entirely responsible," Hughes said, according to Reuters. https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-trump-gaza-nazis-israel-2056249

"I am here and I am alive. President Trump, you saved my life. You saved the life of 33 hostages because of your efforts."

There's already links in this very topic. You need to read it Here's another with evidence, plenty of others. Hamas and the Other Terrorist Organizations in the Gaza Strip Use Medical Facilities and Ambulances for Military-Terrorist Purposes https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/20683/

No moral equivalence whatsoever between Hamas and Israel. Also not true about the reporting. If you've not noticed there's been a ceasefire going on for a few weeks. Just one recent one after the ceasefire that was in place: Hundreds killed according to Hamas as Israel launches air strikes on Gaza

The facts however are that Hamas have used ambulances and have also transported hostages in ambulances. The IDF also claim 6 Hamas were killed in this incident.

War is even dirtier when one side uses ambulances to transport their terrorists around, and transport the innocent hostages they kidnapped. War is also dirtier when they also use hospital facilities to have their compounds and control centers. War is very dirty when one side deliberately uses Gazans as human sacrifice and the leaders are happy to state this publicly to then utilize the civilian casualties in their propaganda.

Well don't ask me about my views then...........lol and I certainly know what yours are already.

All very good points in defence of the Israeli Defence Forces but you would not have said a thing about the indiscriminate targeting and killing of Red Crescent medics if that video had not been found, true or false? Yes I have, you've just not read my posts where I did and that's just deflection from your refusal to accept this topic is about the calling of an investigation to the incident with you claiming they are already guilty of war crimes and this is "normal white wash of events" in your best Hamas apologist rhetoric.

Not just some media but plenty of the posters who lap it up. Hamas has a history of using ambulances for war Before the facts had even settled, western media outlets rendered their verdict: Israel was guilty. Guilty of deliberately targeting ambulances. Guilty of murdering humanitarian workers. Guilty because in the court of international opinion, Israel’s guilt is the default setting. For decades, Palestinian terrorist groups have systematically turned ambulances, hospitals, schools and mosques into instruments of war. This is not a rare abuse but an entrenched tactic: a strategic manipulation of international law designed to endanger civilians and maximise propaganda victories. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/hamas-has-a-history-of-using-ambulances-for-war/

Was he referring to the bodies? Hardly whataboutary unless you believe everything hook line and sinker before an investigation has been completed. Its not just about the soldiers on the ground who mislead the IDF spokesman on the ambulances have lights on. The IDF directed the UN to where the bodies were by the way.

"Israel did their normal white wash of events" Daily dose of distasteful pure Hamas propaganda. Israel guilty of war crimes served up by Jeff the Chef with no need for an investigation and the 6 Hamas operatives killed in the incident. Let alone the fact that Hamas are known for using ambulances to transport themselves and hostages.

No the topic is not about that. Its about wanting an International Investigation into the incident. Trust you. Israel have committed war crimes have they? Shouldn't an investigation and court case prove that? You've proven them guilty already. Now there's a surprise and a total head in sand to the context and previous posts in this topic.

This is not about the Jewish settlers either......... Why not read the OP

Your way off topic here and you better consult Hamas who does not want a two state solution and in fact wants no state whatsoever for Israel, mimicking their puppet masters Iran.

Interesting, the claim that some of the victims had their hands tied seems to have been dropped. Then again it was by the doctor at Nasser Hospital where multiple hostages say they were held and their untouched medication that was sent from Israel was also found. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/01/palestinian-paramedics-shot-by-israeli-forces-had-hands-tied-eyewitnesses-say