Nigel Garvie
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32 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:
They should ask bargirls which groups of countries tourists they’d prefer. Hint: it wouldn’t be Chinese or Indians.
Great idea, let the bargirls determine government policy.
Hint:, I expect they find many fat sweaty drunken falangs repulsive, They don't love them, it's their money they love.
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59 minutes ago, vogie said:
Not a big fan of fair policing Nigel, if you are going to arrest lawbreakers from one side you should be prepared to arrest lawbreakers from the other, even you must agree with that or some might say that is classed as selective policing.
59 minutes ago, vogie said:Of course the point is sound, we pay the police to be even handed - which I totally support -and by and large they are. Thank God not like US police. However we should deal with the current issue, whataboutery gets tiring and leads off into endless sub threads.
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6 minutes ago, vogie said:Any news of any arrests of the thugs throwing missiles at police horses resulting in one female officer suffering a punctured lung, I can't find any news on that.
Classic deflect, have you considered a job as a politician?
Probably not, but for any one who does, I would recommend the Tory party, when they can't deflect they waffle or lie, not a big challenge really.
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18 minutes ago, ukrules said:
Good luck with that, according to some we will be starting a second wave in September, that comes from the Chinese government who of course know a lot more than the rest of us about this.
I think the 'second wave' in big city China (really the first wave outside Wuhan) is starting right now, they just noticed it.
China is about to die.
Thank you for the good luck.
I am realistic, I have to return for work and medical reasons, no options there.
Right now the US is falling apart with Covid, all those States which were low incidence before are becoming trouble spots at an awful speed. I have no time for the CCP which is as fascist as it is communist, but I expect they will clamp down brutally as they did in Wuhan. Human lives are cheap in a country of 1.4 billion. They and the US are the greatest threats to world peace even with no virus.
However I wouldn't bet on which country is going be most devastated by covid, (A bit ghoulish to do so), all the same Brazil is well in the running.
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7 minutes ago, herwin1234 said:
its just what you make of your life yourself and how you look at the world around you, in an understanding way or thinking that the world evolves around you.
you feel unwanted and unwelcome, and no doubt there must be a reason for it. (hint, its not "the Thais" but its "you".
other farang including myself feel pretty welcome here in the Land of Smiles. I already gor three or four times free durian from the local durian sellers this season, makes me feel pretty welcome ???? i mean, its up to you how ppl treat you. Its like, if you want ppl to smile at you, start smiling yourself and start thinking nice and positive about the ppl around you.
but yeah, look at how negative too many farang are, no smiles all sourfaced, its no wonder if locals dont care if they return and never come back.
My post of the week????.
It is their country, we are immigrants/ visitors (The word Expats is pompous).
If you are friendly and respectful to them they are almost all friendly to you, it still is the LoS to me.
Why are "Western" tourists and returning retirees etc not very welcome?
Well firstly, currently, it's bleeding obvious init. We are coming from countries (NZ and AUS excepted) with awful levels of Covid infection, and in the US and UK in particular, shameful records of responding to the crisis.
Secondly, many falangs carry around with them a sense of entitlement, and can't help giving locals the feeling that they believe, because they have a western education and money, that they are in some strange way superior to the people of the country they are visiting. Thais are proud people, do you think they like this? There are 1.8 million falang residents in Thailand, how would we feel if the situation was reversed.
I have to return home soon and hope to come back in 3 months, I can only hope that the Covid situation improves, and the Thai government outlook on falangs does also. We haven't made it any easier for ourselves.
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31 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:
If he was part of the BLM protest why was he in parliament square? It was the right wing thugs who were there.
Well you shouldn't judge people by their appearance of course, but any normal person sees a fat fart of the standard Alt right thicko variety, who's brains are too small to work out that if you drink 8 cans of lager it has to go somewhere.
Your standard left wing protester is skinny by comparison, and dresses differently.
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32 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and using the worst possible case - slavery.
If going by a simple 'checkered past' as the standard for de-personing people and history, then your position is even more absurd.My original post was a lot more nuanced, I certainly did NOT suggest de-personing people and history. Try reading it properly and then at least your comments would not come across as being so dismally ill informed.
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2 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:But that would be an inaccurate standard. Slavery was practiced by just about every single society throughout history at some point and it still goes on today, but by todays standards it is appalling and wrong, whereas 200-300 years ago and beyond was considered normal for whoever was the victor or the most powerful. It just was, denying it is denying history.
And as wrong as that may be, that does not mean that a man 200-300 years ago who had slaves (normal at the time) and did 10,000 things that were good, should be de-personed and erased. It should stay and be a reminder if what once was, not erased and forgotten.????
Yes of course, we know the history of slavery, but your original comment didn't specify that, I was talking more broadly about "Figures with a chequered past"
It appears that you may not understand the word Hegemony, which is about dominance.
Equality of treatment and of opportunity for all people, which includes all races.
There is no contradiction here.
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50 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:I think people are just proud of their country and its history even if some of the figures have a checkered past by todays standards.
I think a checkered past by any standards would be more accurate. Realistically the world is full of war hero memorials, when the hero had feet of clay. The Mongolians have statues to Ghengis Khan, not famous for treating those he conquered according to the rules of the Geneva Convention. The worst offenders should be in history books, not on statues. Some statues should be removed, but the problem is where do you stop? Do you have a standard "Goodness" measurement for different periods of history, or do we leave it up to a youth inflamed by indignation at injustice.
Indeed I also am proud of my country (Scotland not Britain). I am not proud of it's history as a whole, which is mixed, like that of all nations. Some parts are good and some better forgotten. History is history - being proud of it (As a whole rather than particular events) seems to me a bit silly.
The entire colonial period which involved most of Europe, was basically about exploitation, by well armed people of less "Developed" ones. If you are against looting you'll hate the British Museum. Even within the perspective of man's never ending injustice to man, this still stands out as a shameful time.
44 minutes ago, J Town said:Black plague was part of history but you don't see statues of rats glorifying it.
Brilliant!
Black lives do matter, there should be equality of treatment, and of opportunity, for all people, which includes all races. The world may be on the path to a big change. The Hegemony of old, largely white, males should be destroyed. (If you have a brain you will recognise that this is not being racist, just acknowledging who rules the roost).
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4 minutes ago, Kadilo said:How indeed
I would imagine unless you have connections with such people you would be repulsed.
Whatever the pathetic excuses being made by apologists for these people, and whatever the arguments about what one or two photographs actually depict, it is clear from looking at everything that has been reported, in all the media, that this was a bunch of scum thugs, who show the very worst of Britain. People are of course repulsed, as are the "Celtic nations" that surround England, the mainland Europeans, and decent people around the world. The countries that eventually do trade deals with us will be hiding their feelings of disgust as they negotiate. Biden has been reported as probably being far too busy with other things. Trump is drowning in his own manure.
How did we descend so low?
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47 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:Cannot find any info online about that
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29441383
OK I said what I said, I'm leaving for now. Read real history books about Churchill, (Not gushing bs from Cummings puppet) it is clear what kind of person he was overall - just accept it, it won't hurt.
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21 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:
Churchill went to South Africa as a Journalist and then joined the SA Army as a lieutenant , how was he "involved" in the concentration camps
By saying involved I didn't mean he built them or populated them, I had read of the link before though couldn't remember the detail. However this quote puts his feelings about them into perspective.
"When concentration camps were built in South Africa, for white Boers, he said they produced “the minimum of suffering”. The death toll was almost 28,000,"
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2 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:2 hours ago, samran said:You remind me of the Germans at the end of WW2 who swore black and blue that they weren’t nazis. As if no one in the country actually was.
Remember, you went to war against to them for a reason, now you are sticking up for them. Perhaps you better go destroy that Churchill statue afterall...
It would be good to get some sensible perspective on Churchill. Like all people he had good and bad in him. He was brought up in the sort of privileged family where racism and elitism were par for the course. His involvement in SA concentration camps (The first), the (First) bombings of civilians- the Kurds, the genocide of Bihar in which around 4 million starved to death (Getting up to holocaust levels), mark him out as a bad man by any analysis.
On the other hand when you are fighting in a ring with the big bad boys, Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin you don't send in a wimp. Churchill inspired the UK in standing up to and eventually - with our allies - defeating European fascism, (Should have taken out Franco as well of course). We have to acknowledge that and be grateful for it, he was a great war leader. The fact that he was dumped in the post war election was a sign that ordinary British people felt that the time for war mongers was over.
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4 minutes ago, dunroaming said:All chanting "Tommy Robinson" as they went. Just the usual mob of Neanderthals coming out from under their stones when they smell a ruck. Like their fathers before them, there is nothing new to see here.
Tragically, many of their fathers fought, and some died, fighting fascism. It now appears that they are embracing a good proportion of it with welcoming arms. Many of their parents will be turning in their graves at the thought of how this generation has dragged a once fine and decent county into the cesspit.
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On 6/8/2020 at 2:38 PM, fideliolux said:
99% of infectioned people were Thai Nationals who came back from the labour camps in Korea, Saudi Arabia, Kuweit etc.
where they live 10 to 12 people in one room!
Those are the facts, but someone would loose face to admit it!
I think for sure there are other infectious people. The flights from China, the early part of the Italian infection when they were still coming, in particular.
We appear to be getting sensitive that falang longer term residents are being targeted. They were already here and weren't bringing in the virus obviously. Many went home because their visa expired or they couldn't afford the medical expense if it came to that. Not surprisingly the Thai Government was glad to see them go, nobody knew what the burden on the local health service would be at that point.
We have moved on from that time, and now nobody in their right mind would take US or most of the EU visitors into their country, UK ones in particular. The academic is simply stating facts.
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1 hour ago, Tug said:
I think the spell is broken finally!!looks like they are finally speaking up DOD JOINT CHEIFS the fed now if some republican senators grow some balls !!!
I think the Senators have sold them to lobbyists long ago. Have to regrow from scratch!
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12 minutes ago, checkered flag said:
I guess that bricks and fire don't protect the demonstrators. Also the progressive wackos whom joined in. The system was working until they subverted it.
Also a good way to keep Joe in the basement so he can't say anything off script.
I've really no idea what you are trying to say......The system was working until they subverted it......what system, who?
There are wackos of every sort everywhere progressive and retard, or whatever.
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36 minutes ago, J Town said:
Using facts on some people is a waste of time.
Trump supporters: "You libs can NOT make us stay at home, avoid rallies or wear masks!"
Trump non-supporters: "Us libs are counting on it."
Well it would be the perfect excuse for anyone dumb enough to believe it. The second wave of virus will all be down to the BLM current protestors, that is what Pence is setting us up for. Nothing to do with ending the lockdowns too soon of course, or earlier the white nationalists protesting that they couldn't get a haircut (Poor dears) etc, as they waved their guns around.
Sadly for Pence the horse may have bolted, the polls are awful for the GOP and when you lose supporters it is not so easy to get them back.
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3 hours ago, balo said:Nonsense, look at Brazil now, the worst hit country in the world. It's a tropical climate with average temperatures around 30 degrees C. This virus does not care if it's hot or cold outside.
All that matters is good hygiene and always keep 1-2 meter distance to people.No doubt about Brazil's high number of cases. That nutter Bolsonaro closed down the reporting site so people would stop seeing how bad it was. However statistically Brazil is an outlier, their government policies were useless, considerably worse even than Trump and Johnson.
There is clearly a heat factor in winter colds and flu, why not Covid-19, which is part of the same family as the common cold. I think the information that it gets inactivated when lying on hot surfaces appears valid.
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5 hours ago, Jack100 said:
I thought most of the slave trading was done by Arabs ? Well they seem to get blamed for most things so we might as
well add this to the list . !
Well of course the history of slavery goes back for 1000s of years, and the Arabs were well involved particularly after the Muslim wars of conquest. However at the boom time of the slave trade - West Africa to Caribbean and southern US, the Arabs were merely the initial suppliers, who rounded up the black population and took them in irons to the coast. The British would have done this themselves if they had to, but they had a convenient and cheap local way of getting it done for them. That was only a small part of the whole trade. Not so long after the ending on the slave trade, the British Empire was getting the occupants of Bihar to work for slave wages making Opium, which we then exported to China and addicted 20 Million of them. Then we fought two wars to protect this commercial interest. The great houses around Britain were just as likely to have been built on the profits of drug dealing as on the profits of slavery. There are probably statues to Drug dealers round the country also. Makes you proud to be British what!..........(Not)
Tear them all down. Scottish ones like Wallace and Bruce also for all I care, we know our history, we don't need statues to remind us. The Statue obsession is dickheads worshiping statues of dickheads, rather frowned on in the Bible "Thou shalt make unto thyself no craven images".
Scrap brass is great, melt it down and use it. 2 inch o/d brass tubing is hard to find nowadays.
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4 minutes ago, brianthainess said:
so what?
Exactly, what are statues all about anyway. Some shallow self aggrandising <deleted> gets one put up to glorify his pathetic memory after he is dead. I would remove them all, scrap brass is quite valuable these days. Also when it gets cold there are always brass monkeys looking for welders as we used to say on site. (Freeze the balls of a brass monkey - a nautical saying)
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Far-right and anti-racism protesters scuffle in London
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Thank you for providing me with a new unit of measurement 1 skinfull = 16 pints. (Oh the glorious Imperial measurement system)
I'm unlikely to use it personally at my age, but it's good to know! ????