Tod Daniels

@Finlaco you are a bit confused ???? NO visa in country gets "renewed" and there is no such thing as a 12 month retirement VISA inside thailand You're talking about a yearly "extension of stay" <- READ the stamp you have in your passport As Dr Jack54 correctly stated ONCE you start the 90 day reporting cycle (by doing that first report in person) you can then use the online system AND getting a new year extension isn't going to affect that ability at all You do all your 90 day reporting online at this website 90 Day Online Link

I think you have your wires crossed there Cartagena. .. ???? Many foreigners have children with thai women they are not married to and it's a process they go thru to get granted legal parental rights, has nothing to do with their "survival" in the glorious "Land 'O Thaiz" I don't quite get your question at all? What difference is it to you what visa foreigners decide to be on (marriage to a thai OR raising thai children) as long as they meet the requirements they're allowed to get those visa/extensions

AFAIK, there are no immigration offices that require the decree of parental rights from family court OR the Amphur document for a foreign father of a thai child who had the child while not married to the thai mother.. That's not a requirement that I have heard of (not even at those bs renegade offices in Nakhon Nowhere that make up their own rules ???? ) <- FWIW the Chiang Mai immigration office is a pretty straight up, no nonsense office that doesn't go out of it's way to "break your balls" when applying for extensions. Strange the O/P had the issues they did BUT I will concur if they had that attitude with the officers at the C/M office they'd be "trying to push a rope" with them real quick ????

they are NOT married to the mother of their child, and can't GET married for like 310 days or some time LONG in the future That year-long multi-entry Non-O suggestion is getting the cart WAY before the wh*re ???? err I mean cart before the horse sorry..

Yep, you lose any time you have when you stamp out. As Celsius correctly pointed out you're buying a NEW visa and it has nothing to do with this current 90 day stamp you're on now.. If you can't go closer to the date when your current stamp expires you just have to deal with the fact you lose the time on this stamp

I think your friend is a little confused. Or there was a lost in translation from the immigration office. There are two ways to get granted legal parental rights, one is by going through family Court and the child can be any age. The other is by going through the local city hall (Amphur), and for that the child has to be a minimum age. Usually between 5 and 7 depending on the Amphur. Without either the family court decree, or the granting of parental rights from the local Amphur, he can't get either the 90-day Non-O visa or the year extension inside the country based on being the father of a Thai child. He can go to the Thai consulate in Savannahkhet Lao and get a 90 day single entry Non-O visa with minimal documentation, and after that he could also get a 60-day visit Thai family extension once he's inside the country at the local immigration office for 1900. That would buy them close to 5 months to get his act together and get that granting of the parental rights decree.

Some people who didn't show onward travel in 60 days and then returning to thailand shortly after that were denied an METV and issued just a single entry tourist visa (which means in the US losing 160 USD ???? the difference between a single and multi entry tourist visa 200/40) It even says you have to show a "genuine reason" to get the METV. I'd book a ticket out in 60 days and then back in a few days later to show WHY you need METV

This is ripped of my messenger from someone who was AT Savannakhet with EVERYTHING 3 weeks ago and denied the year Non-O So you can take it with a grain of salt OR you can believe it I have no dog in this fight and just relate info I get from the thai visa related groups

There is ONLY ONE consulate in the area that will issue a 90 day non-O visa to a spouse married to a foreigner on a 'retirement visa' (the year extension) and that is Penang, I can confirm these consulates WILL NOT issue it; Vientiane, Savannakhet, Phnom Penh, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore. Only ones I don't have first hand info on as far as if they will or won't are the ones in Kota Bharu Malaysia and Yangon Burma. That is a HARD visa to get and everyone I know that got it since the covid sh*t show ended has done it at Penang AND all the denials have been at the consulates I listed above.. You cannot come in visa exempt OR on a 60 day tourist visa stamp and get that 90 day non-O visa issued based on being a trailing spouse of a retirement visa holder that is one of the few reasons that they don't issue in country Non-O's for at ANY immigration office. That's why agents make foreigners with foreign wives get that ED visa for 6 months then switch because an ED visa CAN be done in country You made the job harder using an agent to push paper for your first visa/extension.. ???? Now as far as your comment that your wife's ED extension doesn't have a lot of time on it, she doesn't NEED any time on it. A "reason change" can be done right up until the last day her stamp is good for. Contact the agent you used for your retirement extension (seeing as they'd have to push her extension thru that office too for it to "piggyback" AND see what they say

Done it many times as in since the covid-sh*t show ended and they re-opened the border at Mukdahan/Savannakhet? or did it many times in years gone by? They leave Sunday night and they leave Wednesday night when they go meaning they're at the border at 6AM when it opens on Monday and Thursday mornings. EDITED to show that I was totally 100% wrong about the days those companies run, They go on Sunday and Wednesday night meaning they are there Monday and Thursday mornings My apologies people I changed the info as soon as I spoke to them

Thanx for that slick,, my question to you is when did you last get a year long, multi-entry Non-O visa from Savannakhet? BOTH bangkok and pattya visa run companies show up on Mondays and THURSDAY mornings with their people. AND There are confirmed reports of people only getting single entry 90 day Non-O's as recently as last week without their wife although ONE person did get a year/multi with the letter from his wife along with the regular required documents. EDITED: Sorry I got my wires crossed it's Monday and Thursday mornings you don't want to be there as the agents are there Wednesday is fine. . My apologies again

Sadly no, you have to apply for the FIRST extension on a visa for the reason you got the visa <- in this case he's on a Non-ED visa so he has to get at least the FIRST extension (90 days) based on education, THEN he could change the reason for the extension, by cancelling the extension he has with a letter from the school and immediately applying for a new yearly extension by meeting the proof of funds and document requirements for an extension based on marriage to a thai.

AFAIK; Hanoi NEVER issued that year-long, multi-entry Non-O visa and HCMC changed their policy just before the covid sh*t-show closed the borders to where they wanted proof of 400K baht in a bank account to issue that visa. You want that year long, multi-entry Non-O the only consulate in the vicinity that issues it without proof of funds is Savannakhet. One thing to keep in mind is that there have been several posts by people who went there and were sold just a single entry 90 day Non-O because they didn't have their thai wife with them AND they didn't have a "letter" written from the thai wife asking the consulate in Savannakhet issue the year-long, multi-entry Non-O visa. The first time someone posted it I took it as an aberration and the officer having a bad day, but after the 4th or 5th person said the same thing (that they got only a 90 day single entry) AND the one guy I told to have his wife write a letter to Savannakhet asking for the year visa got his without his wife I started thinking they require that letter again ^^ EDITED That is totally the correct info I just talked to two visa run companies (BKK and Pattaya) and they said they RUN Sunday AND Wednesday nights meaning they are there Monday and Thursday I stand humbly erected ???? err corrected, Sorry for the bad info

Okay, this topic comes up a LOT on the f/b visa groups AND you cannot get a 90 day non-O visa based on being married to a foreigner on a "retirement visa" (Non-O visa/extension, Non-OA visa/extension) from Vientiane OR Savannakhet. People in the last couple of months have been turned away The ONLY nearby consulate that will issue it is the one in Penang, Malaysia. You either BOTH apply for Non-O's together <- one by meeting the requirements to get the Non-O based on retirement and the other as "trailing spouse) OR the primary visa holder <- the one on the retirement visa has to have a year extension issued. You have to take the marriage documents passport copies AND bank book update of the retirement visa holder for them to issue a 90 day Non-O trailing spouse visa. So if you used an agent to bank the money for you it might not work Now you mention that you had an agent offer to get a 6 month ED visa and after that change the reason for the extension to "trailing spouse". This is actually the "work around" that many Pattaya agents are doing to get those visa/extensions for foreigners married to other foreigners on retirement visa/extensions. They get a 90 day Non-ED visa and then they get ONE extension for 90 more days based on education <-(because the rule is you have to get at least the FIRST extension for the reason you got the visa in this case education) THEN when that first 90 day extension runs out the agents can "Change the Reason" for the extension from education to "trailing spouse". I've seen it close to a dozen times now, and it goes thru without any issues One thing, you say your Pinoy wife is currently ON an ED visa/extension, perhaps you could contact who ever got you your year extension (the company that banked the money for you) and see if they can do a reason change for your wifes ED extension to one based on trailing spouse.

Okay boyz and squirrellz this is how those online eExtensions work with VFS Global It's still ONLY a Bangkok thing and they don't have it set up at any other location You apply online, decide how fast you want your extension approved <- which is on a sliding price scale from 500-1000-1500 baht You submit your documents, pay their fee, then get approved and go out to Chaengwattana on the floor ABOVE the main immigration office where they have the banner across the windows saying eExtension, you turn in the documents you uploaded already and they put a sticker in your passport for the extension. I'd say it's far easier to just make an appt with the online appt booking system and show up 15 minutes before that time to jump the queue at the section you're applying for the extension in. This is the link Bangkok Online Appt Link

Remember that consulate has a three business day processing time meaning if you apply on Monday morning you get your passport back Wednesday afternoon and if you apply on Thursday you get your passport back the following Monday afternoon. Also watch for any holiday closures.

I just went to the Thai consulate website and looked at the online booking. It would appear you can make an appointment for more than a month in advance of when you're going there. You just show up between the allotted time I think 9 and 11:00 on the day of your appointment and have your print out of the confirmation You book the appointment here https://thaivisavientiane.com/

And this story highlights the HUGE disconnect between how sin-sod is negotiated between thai/thai couples and thai/foreign couples The FAMILY would NEVER EVER approach the groom (in thai/thai situations) and tell him how much they expect. Sin Sod negotiations are done by a mutually respected elder friend of both parties. They are the intermediary between the bride family and the groom. There NEVER is face to face (bride family / groom) negotiations on it, AND the bride never gets involved in the least. ..

There is no way ANYONE can tell you the answer without knowing WHERE he got his "Non-O visa". If he got it inside the country NO, he doesn't get another year if he exits/re-enters before it expires. IF on the other hand he got a Non-Immigrant Type OA <- notice the A after the O ???? from the thai consulate in HIS country before he came here, the type of visa that requires mandatory insurance, a medical certificate, proof of funds in his country and he was stamped in for a whole year when he entered thailand he CAN inside bounce out and back (with a new year of the mandatory insurance) and get another year entry stamp There is a HUGE difference between a Non-O, a Non-OA, and a year extension of stay you get INSIDE the country from a Non-O visa What does your "friend" have? post an image of his current stamp if he doesn't know..

and you're just NOW asking about this? You can get an emergency travel document that lets you go back to where ever it is you come from, when you stamp out of thailand at the airport you will be banned for 3 years. How about you make your OWN post asking your questions rather than resurrecting an ancient post that has nothing to do with your specific situation?

The 40K is the amount that agents charge to get yearly extensions based on marriage from outside the province you live in (meaning they are NOT using the immigration office you use) AND a great part of that 'fee' goes toward greasing the wheel to get around the seasoning requirements on the funds. While it is a real stamp from a real office by a real officer, it's not a stamp from the office where you live <- and that's the issue that will bite you later on I think you will find that trying to "push your own paper" and get a year extension at your immigration office with an out of province agent gotten stamp in your passport is gonna be like pushing a rope, and you're just opening a can of worms. Here's a thought, rather than go down the slippery slope of paying an agent to get you a back door under the table year extension, why not just suck it up, slog to the thai consulate in Savannakhet get a year long multi-entry Non-O visa based on marriage to a thai for 5000baht (they don't ask for proof of funds there) and then just bounce in and out every 90 days like that visa allows for the next year until you can get your act together to meet the proof of funds where you have the 400K baht in a thai bank account in your name only for 2 months before you apply for the in country year extension based on marriage..

So at the end of the day it's exactly as I outlined. ???? You (the agent) applied for the 90 day Non-O visa from immigrations, and you will then get a year extension added on That's the 3+12=15 that all the agents do down there. What they don't do is all the stamps the same day anymore.. They spread them out the dates are more in line with actual timeline to do that process. I meant no disrespect toward you, I was only trying to tell you what was going on because you didn't seem to know what was happening.. AND I do know that some agents make you show up to immigrations two times. Once to get your photo taken when you apply for the Non-O 90 day visa and then once again a few weeks later when they give you the year extension. The up side is, when you DO finally get your passport back (which can take up to a month if you let them hold it the whole time) you will have 15 months valid stay in your passport. AND You might want to have them get you at least a single re-entry permit so that if you have to leave suddenly you can.. Congrats that you're getting sorted..

I believe you are mixin' up two completely different things As a rule at Jomtien immigration office you can apply for a new extension any time you have 30 days or LESS left on your current stamp (Agents can get it up to 90 days before your current expiration date).. What that means for most people is that you can apply for a new extension a month before it expires right down to the last day your stamp is good for <- again that is to apply for an EXTENSION OF STAY.. What you're talking about with that "15 days before the expiration date" is the time you need on a free 30 day entry / 60 day tourist visa stamp to apply for a 90 day VISA at that office.. Because the application goes under review for 14 days before you go back and get the visa and new 90 day stamp inked in Two completely different time lines for completely different things ???? And you could have just made a new post asking rather than dredging up one from 2021 ????

And while OFF TOPIC: just to give a pointer to people Here's how you can tell AGENT gotten Non-O and year extension stamps from SOME offices Look at the dates on the stamps the Non-O, the year extension and the re-entry permit were issued ALL in one day. Oct 6, 2022 There is no way for a "normal" person to walk in and get that done.. You have to apply for the Non-O, WAIT the under review period, go back get it inked in WAIT until you have so many days left on your stamp, go back and apply for the extension. The dates will be spread out over a period of a couple months.. Now don't think these aren't real stamps by real officers at real offices, because they are. All I'm doing is pointing out how you can tell agent gotten stamps, and if I can spot them imagine how good immigration officers are at it ???? ???? ????

None of the agents down there not Mots, TikTok or Maneerat can get BOTH the 90 day Non-O and the year extension stamp issued the same day. Even when they bank the money for you and "grease the wheel" to avoid the seasoning. It takes about a month because Jomtien won't date the Non-O and the year extension the same day (Like Bangkok and other offices will).. To the O/P this is what an in country 90 day Non-O VISA looks like (This is from Phuket). Look at the stamp in your passport and see if that's what you have.. If it is you're FINE and you should talk to what ever agent got it for you so you can have them get you the year extension in another month or so.