Tod Daniels

That's 100% exactly how "Safe Entry" works and the companies can usually do Don Mueang, Suvarnabhumi, Phuket and Chiang Mai as points of entry, you have to send them copies of EVERY page of your passport now as well (since they started putting those small denial of entry stamps in the back pages 😛 ) BUT I had someone denied entry from Vietnam get shipped back there and came back in the next day on the SAME FLIGHT # at the same airport with no issue at all 😮 Some nationalities they won't fool with, AND they run your passport thru the immigration system with their contact to see your previous entry/stay history and if you were denied entry before. They won't even tell you they can get you in if they can't,

Almost all those well advertised bouncing companies really just broker their people thru SWD Transport in Bangkok or 1st Class Visa Run in Pattaya In Bangkok these people go to the cambodian border every day at 4:30am from the Lotus's parking lot at BTS On Nut https://thaivisaservice.com/ And there is no issue with the TDAC being done at the border before stamping back into thailand,

In Chaengwattana you have to do the first report after you come back into the country in person. There's no downside to trying it online 2 weeks before your due date, BUT keep in mind that most people who try it (in Bangkok) get this rejection:

Don't waste the money to check to see if your blacklisted. I can assure you with 100% accuracy, you are most definitely not banned. You, (like many thousands of people each week), were just denied entry to Thailand. It's not blacklisting, all it means is on this attempt they didn't let you in. Check the last couple pages of your passport because what's happening now is people are not getting the half-page denial of entry stamp anymore but they are getting a small notation written on one of the last two pages of their passport that say 12.2 That refers to the immigration act clause 12 section 2. I've included the screen grab As people have said use a safe entry company, which is not to be confused with a fast track entry company. They are completely different things. Safe entry, get you into the country no matter what your previous entry history was and no matter if you have been denied entry previously. Fast track entry, just jumps the queue and gets you to the front of the immigration line, but you face the immigration officer on your own and if your previous entry/stay history is excessive they can still deny you entry. Here's two images of denial of entry stamps one shows somebody was denied in 2023 and then again in April of this year, and the other is just the denial they got in Jan 2025. BOTH those stamps were on the last page(s) of the passports <- so they're not easily noticed by people who get denied 😮

As DrJack54 said, you go to the US, you apply for the visa thru the eVisa webportal, selecting the thai consulate which serves the state where you are (in your case if you're in Washington state you use the Los Angeles consulate) and you wait in the US until the visa is approved or rejected. They will email you the PDF file that is the visa if it's approved, you print that and give it with your passport to the officer at passport control when you stamp in to thailand On their website they state the processing time

If you meet the financial and documentation requirements to get an extension then you're only using an agent to "shepherd you" thru the system, jump the queue, etc As long as that's all you're doing, and you're not handing your passport to someone where it goes to a province you don't live in, gets an extension from an immigration office you never went to from an officer you never met you should be fine. <- Stamps like the ones I just mentioned (especially if that agent is banking the money for you too) are the ones that can cause heightened scrutiny when an immigration officer looks in your passport. BUT If you're just meeting them at the office, having them get your paperwork correct, etc, where everything is above board you should have no exposure at all. TONS of people use "shepherds" to get them thru the process faster than a normal person can do it.

I think what confused people was back in July of 2024 when they went from free 30 day visa exempt entries for 55 countries (which you were allowed TWO per calendar year) to the 60 day visa exempt entries for 90+ countries, they rescinded that 2 free entries per calendar year BUT Having no official limit on visa exempt entries (by air or land) doesn't mean they're unlimited AND the officers at passport control got a LOT harder towards people milking 60 day visa exempt stamps to live here. THOUSANDS of people are denied entry every week (by air and land) most trying to get back in on a new free 60 day entry stamp., I'd say IF you are only interested in getting another 60 day entry stamp USE A SERVICE to bounce you out and back by land.. Services have it set up so their clients get out and back without hassle and without regard to their previous entry/stay history. <- That's why they cost more than the transportation to the border and back 😜 🙂

Good to know, not every border checkpoint sells re-entry permits (for instance up north in Nong Khai at the Lao border they have the re-entry permit place about 5km before the border in a little office 😮) Safe travels sir 👍

I am calling b/s on this story. 👎 I have NEVER ever even HEARD of the officers at C/W taking money directly from a "customer", thru an intermediary, maybe, but @proton sorry, that's not a believable story

that is posted on their website concerning the 90 day Non-O visa based on retirement AND This is posted on the eVisa website landing page concerning the same visa

Had a good friend drop his 800K to 400k 90 days after he'd gotten his extension, (thinking it was 90 days instead of 3 calendar months like it's written) and when he went for the year extension the following year the officer said, "9 months ago, you failed to meet the seasoning requirements (by TWO days) for the extension you're on now, so that means IF you go forward with your extension application today you will be found to be on overstay for 9 months, get arrested, deported and banned for 5 years (because you're caught on overstay) She told him to bounce out/back get a new visa exempt entry stamp, then come back and apply for the 90 day Non-O and 2 months later a new year extension. He NEVER forgot the seasoning is 3 MONTHS after not 90 days 😛

Asking for the house book and land lord i/d of the place you rent is NOT an unusual requirement and many offices routinely ask for that Now that you haven't been asked for it in the past isn't remarkable either 😛 as you took pains to point out this "isn't your first rodeo" and you've successfully managed to get 14 years worth of previous extensions 😉 You know as well as I do, some offices want to see how many hoops you'll jump thru.

Come on now 😕 I just gave you EIGHT of the top agents down there (the ones that push the most paper <- get visa/extensions for people) CONTACT THEM and explain the situation, they will tell you right up front whether they can do it with a K-bank account or not

BOTH thai consulates in Lao (Vientiane and Savannakhet) are really, REALLY fast when it comes to approving "regular Non-Imm" visas (Non-B, O, ED) I know of several people at BOTH consulates who applied for Non-O visa (retirement or marriage) online, took the confirmation to the consulate to pay for the visa, and got their approval emails even before they got back to their hotel from the consulate 😮 Mose people get their approvals within the next day after paying. Get the application correct, CHECK that there are no data entry errors, get the documents uploaded that they want and you'll get approved at those consulates. You certainly don't need any of those touts out front offering crazy money for "same day service" 😛

As people pointed out your 90 day "count down clock" starts when you stamp back into the country and your next 90 day report is due 89 days from the date you stamp IN to thailand Just so we are clear, since the last update of the TM47 online reporting system more and more people who are trying to report online after coming back from abroad are getting the email saying their report was rejected with this message

Unless I'm mistaken you can't BUY a re-entry permit at that border crossing and you'd have to have one before you show up to stamp out (although I freely admit I could be wrong) 🙂 On a valid yearly extension (which is what you have (not any visa) with a re-entry permit you SHOULD be able to exit/re-enter the same day because you're not trying to border bounce to add time to your stay here (like people do who bounce out/back to get free stamps for 60 day). You hold a valid extension w/re-entry and can come and go without much problem. I would certainly check IF you can get a re-entry permit at the border crossing before you slog down there 🙂 OR have that person come into thailand and get the stuff from you AT the border but on the thai side

There are DOZENS of agents down in Pattaya that can get a yearly extension for people "via alternate" means If he's been doing extensions on his own, he clearly has a thai bank account, AND clearly has a mobile phone too Here's a list of the most popular ones (most are between 14k-17k for the year extension 'with help' 🙂 Mots https://www.facebook.com/KhaoTaloChonburi TikTok https://www.facebook.com/Tiktokservices Maneerat Travel https://www.facebook.com/maneerat.fon.0818630320 Farang Thai Visa Pattaya https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093512444140 Annie Visa Pattaya https://www.facebook.com/groups/277518725290/user/61551102324631/ M Thai Visa https://www.facebook.com/mthaivisa TVS Visa Services Pattaya https://www.facebook.com/TVSPattaya/ So Good Visa Service https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090292965882

Because I'm Tod Daniels, (legend in his own mind) and my skill set in thailand is entry/visa/extension stuff for foreigners 😛 Funny though because I was wondering why you were being so recalcitrant about thinking you can do it 😉

Once you start down the "lemme use an agent to grease the wheels and do something that a "normal person" can't do" you will be marked as having used an agent AND every immigration officer at Chaengwattana will know you used one to get those out of province stamps moved 😕 Here's a thought, if you're so against slogging to Samui, contact a visa agent down there and send your passports to them so they can get them moved for you, that'd work just fine because you got the stamps transferred BY the office that issued the yearly extension.. I would wager it'd cost close to what you would pay to slog down there and do it yourself but you could do it by thai post no problem.

They DO NOT move extensions of stays from one passport to another one at the airport, You can stamp OUT on a new passport, you can stamp back IN on one, and they will note that your valid extension/re-entry is in the old passport. They will NOT move extension of stay stamps or re-entry permits at the airport, that is done at the office where you got the extension

They will not, and the fact you moved to bangkok a couple months ago yet don't have a TM30 filed (which you do within a few days of moving) will not weigh in your favor at all If I could see the future I'd wager that you have a trip to Samui in your near future 😛 to get the stamps moved. They should be able to do it in a single day, you can't make an appt to get it done (at any office) , you have to just show up queue up and wait it out Go get them moved, get a TM30 filed here in bangkok, do your next 90 day report at Chaengwattana and then you're good to go getting extensions up here at this office

Here's the link that lists the certified agencies approved thru LTR to hawk their visa https://ltr.boi.go.th/page/ca.html

I apologize for not seeing that your last extension was done in Koh Samui Here's questions you need to answer have you filed a TM30 stating you live IN Bangkok now and have you been doing 90 day reporting using the Bangkok address? <- those things are almost a MUST to have them even consider Transferring an out of province extension If the answer to either of those is NO, (as in you don't have a current TM30, lease, etc showing you live in bangkok and you haven't done any 90 day reporting up here) I would say you need to slog on back to Samui and get the stamps transferred down there where you got the last year extension stamp issued AND One final time, you're FINE getting a yearly extension from an original OA visa transferred to a new passport inside the country at the immigration office

@TerraplaneGuy and you quoted my post without saying anything for what reason ?? 😉 😛

If he is on an "extension of stay" based on marriage that he got from the immigration office where he lives, it does NOT cancel upon the death of his wife. Whereas if he had gotten a divorce it would be invalid the date he signed the divorce decree He can stay on that extension until it comes up for renewal and then he can apply for a new yearly extension based on another reason (retirement) by meeting the requirements <- Now, whether he has enough time left on his current extension based on marriage to get the 800K baht into a thai bank account in his name only and let it season 2 months before his extension runs out so he can change the reason for his extension from marriage to retirement I do not know.. 😕 AND If he's on a year-long, multi-entry Non-O visa <-where he has to bounce out/back every 90 days (which is unlikely but not impossible) he can still keep using that visa until it expires by continuing to bounce out back <- VISAS don't end just because the reason you got it changes IF his current extension runs out before he can get his act together and get the 800k in the bank for 2 months, then bouncing him out/back at a land border to get OFF the current extension and re-enter on a 60 day free entry stamp so he can start the whole process of applying for an in country 90 day Non-O visa based on retirement and then 2 months after that apply for the year extension. If he's bouncing out/back at ANY of the Lao land borders (especially Chiang Khong or Chiang Saen) have him use a service or he's gonna get hung up crossing out/back