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1 minute ago, ThaiMeow said:

 

So contract will do the trick with embassy and imm ?



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No, see post #9.

2 minutes ago, ThaiMeow said:

 

So its my contract with the company?


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No, it's salary receipts from your employer or bank statements if they pay direct to your bank account.

'Proof of Income'

23 minutes ago, baneko said:

 

Sorry to jump in. How does this work if your a UK national not working in the UK? How can the Embassy confirm or deny your income?

 

 

Immigration will only accept a letter from your Embassy as proof of income.

You have to supply the Embassy with proof of income from your employer, or in most cases proof of Pension.

It could be income from employment, pension, investments, or property rental.

The Embassy total up the annual income in your home currency and provide the letter to Immigration.

Immigration do a conversion of the currency into baht to calculate the monthly income requirement of 40,000 baht.

Alternatively deposit 400,000 in a Thai bank and you don't need an Income letter from your Embassy.

13 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

If marrying in Thailand won't she need an Affirmation of Freedom to Marry from her Embassy? If marrying a foreigner is illegal in Myanmar, would the Affirmation still be issued?

I can only quote from the experience of a friend.

He works in Thailand but gave up trying to obtain an 'affirmation of freedom to marry' for his Myanmar g/f so they could marry in Thailand. After a couple of months of greasing palms for ever increasing amounts, they were getting no closer to achieving their goal.

He eventually got her a Fiancée Visa for the UK, where no proof is required, and they married there before returning to Thailand.

Technically it's illegal for a Myanmar women to marry a foreigner in Myanmar.

If getting her a Fiancé Visa to marry in the US is another major hurdle, then you should consider marriage in Thailand, but still not easy for her to get the correct documents. Read this thread:

It clearly states 'Identity Card for Non Thai National' across the top.

Acceptable in Thailand as an ID card issued to a foreigner.

Not acceptable outside of Thailand......that's what a Passports for.

As of earlier this month Nok Air removed the popular mid day flights and now only operate 2 flights per day.

Air Asia have however introduce a new flight schedule operating 3 flights per day.

The new timetable is taken from their respective websites.

Flights Roi- Et – DM.

Flights DM – Roi- Et.

1 hour ago, Tedly said:

I have a similar question, sorry if this is not the right place to post. But I brought my Thai girlfriend to USA and we got married in USA. Now we want to get the name changed on her passport. I'm told we can to go to the Thai embassy in New York City to have it changed. Anyone know if this is true. Would be a slight problem to go  Thailand to do it as the name on passport would not match the name on plane ticket one half of the trip. 

  Thanks

You can't change the name on a passport, only obtain a new Passport.

New York is a Consulate but may have a mobile unit to take her biometrics, otherwise contact the Embassy in DC for further information on obtaining a new passport due to marriage.

http://thaiembdc.org/thailand-e-passport-ไทย-english/

1 hour ago, Tarteso said:

Very complete Information. Tomorrow I will try to resolve this problem with the law under my arm. This is Tha Mai su district of Chanthaburi. Thanks so much. I will PM if any incidence.


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You may have much better luck at the Provincial Amphur office, Mueang, Chanthaburi.

Some of the smaller outlying Amphur offices don't have the fingerprint and camera equipment to produce the ID cards after issuing a Tabien Baan. They don't even stock the Yellow TB's.

38 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

 

Resident certificates are issued by immigration, not amphers. In fact it's often a requirement, the ampher want's a resident certificate from immigration to issue a yellow book.

 

Some Amphurs will issue them.

Some Police Stations will issue them.

Some Immigration offices will not issue them.

Your Embassy, as a last resort will issue them.

@Tarteso,

Also from the same Act:

Section 8. The following shall be added as paragraph four of Section 10 of the Civil Registration Act B.E. 2534:
 “Procedures under paragraph three, opposition or explanation and appeal of a person affected by acts of the registrar, including consideration of appeal shall be in the manner prescribed in the Ministerial Regulations. Any registration acts may be refrained before the registrar accepts such explanation or opposition.”
 
Section 9. The following shall be added as paragraph two of Section 12 of the Civil Registration Act B.E. 2534:
 “To be useful for civil regsitration data storing and using, governmental organizations whose work relates to personal data of people without Thai nationality within the Thai Kingdom shall refer such data to the Director of Central Registration as requested.”
 
Section 10. Paragraph two of Section 14 of the Civil Registration Act B.E. 2534 shall be repealed and replaced by the following:
 “The registrar shall preceed immediately when accepting such applications under (2). If the application is denied or partly preceded, the applicant shall appeal to the provincial registrar, the Bangkok registrar or the Director of Central Registration within 15 days from the day of acknowledgment from the registrar.”

You have the right to ask for the grounds of refusal in writing, then appeal to the Provincial office.

If he is obstinate, tell him that is your intention.

He may think twice, before being proved wrong.
 

9 minutes ago, Tarteso said:

Shock! Inmigration office and transportation office sent me to Amphoe for a resident certificate.

Playing a Ping Pong game, one month ago!


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Some Immigration offices will no longer issue Certificates of Residence.

Some Amphurs will issue them, although before I obtained my Tabien Baan, I obtained my C of R's from the local Police Station.

One to purchase a motorcycle, one to obtain my first Driving Licence.

Your Embassy can also issue a C of R, but costly.

If you need a sample copy of a C of R issued by a local Police Station, send me a PM.

14 minutes ago, Tarteso said:

 

 

The official of Amphoe refused give me the yellow book, because he said I am not married. In a second visit to amphoe, with the owner of my rented house...all documents, blue book, my passport... He refused again.

Then I ask for a simple certificate of resident, and also refused.
I am in a serious trouble, because waiting for buy a car and new motorbike.

Now I feel pretty angry. Don't know the next step. Because I know I am in the right way.

Thanks detonian






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The official is probably not so well informed.

Amphurs have been required to issue Tabien Baans to foreigner who apply and supply the required documents, which may vary from Amphur to Amphur.

Sometimes you need to take a stance and stand your ground or ask to speak to someone of a higher authority.

Of course it helps if you have something to back your position up.

Section 21. Section 38 of the Civil Registration Act B.E. 2534 shall be repealed and replaced by the following:
 
“Section 38. The district or local registrar shall issue a household registration for persons without Thai nationality having been permitted to stay temporarily and those having been giving leniency for temporary residence in the Thai Kingdom as a special case in accordance with law on immigration and the declaration of the Cabinet and their children born within the Thai Kingdom. In a case of permission of temporary residence overdue, the registrar shall immediately dispose of such persons. The Director of Central Registration shall make profile registration for persons without Thai nationality besides those under paragraph one in accordance with the declaration of the Cabinet. Registrations under paragraph one and two shall lie in the manner prescribed in the regulations under the discretion of the Director of Central Registration.”

Thai Civil Registration Act (2551) 2008..pdf

Note their is no mention of marital status attached to the conditions.

Where you applying at the main Provincial office or a smaller Amphur office?

1 hour ago, Tarteso said:

My doubt; I'm retired with Non Inmigrant OA, Must be married for get a pink ID?


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You must obtain a Yellow Tabien Baan to obtain the ID card.

Your marital status has nothing to do with it.

If you rent, you need the permission and co-operation of your landlord to apply at your Amphur.

1 hour ago, Eff1n2ret said:

It would be interesting to hear from the OP now that his wife is an "overstayer" according to the stamp on her UK passport.

In the case of my friends son (Thai) his Thai Mother states that 2 months after entry she received a telephone call from Amnat, who were the local Immigration office at the time.

They fined her son 20,000 baht overstay, then issued him an extension.

He is now on his 2nd extension and has to make 90 day reports when in Thailand.

(He spends approx 8 months in UK, 4 months in Thailand each year)

His parents have yet to obtain a new Thai passport for their son and return to Immigration as instructed to resolve the situation.

3 hours ago, csabo said:

If you lived in Chiang Mai and had opened a bank account in Phuket and need your bank book replaced ypu would have to come all the way across the country to get it so does not seem surprising official business would require the same trip.

Alternatively you can just transfer the a/c from Phuket to CM.

The CM bank can complete a transfer without the need to return to Phuket.

In a nutshell, No!

Thailand's provinces are like autonomous regions, each province has it's own administration process.

You can only do the name changes at the Amphur where she is registered.

Long term if Chiang Mai is to remain your permanent residence she should surrender her Tabien Baan to Phuket, and obtain a form to take to CM and register there instead. Unless she does this she will not get any of the free or subsidised services offered in CM while being registered in a different Province.

Banks, government hospitals, government offices, schools only offer free services to those registered in the same Province.

As you stand, if your wife needed urgent medical treatment, she would need to return to Phuket in order to get treatment under the Thai health scheme. Chiang Mai would charge for that treatment.

Similarly, if she had a bank a/c in Phuket but makes withdrawals in CM, she will incur an an 'out of province' withdrawal fee.

38 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

The OP is asking about entering Laos, a neighboring country.

Completely different from a domestic flight where it is about identification only.

 

That the pink card was not accepted for identification at the airport is not a big surprise.

It shows a silly misconception of the pink card:

your name is shown in Thai script only, but flight booking is only possible in roman letters.

Thai ID cards on the other hand show the transcript of the name on roman letters (which is used for booking).

Flight booking neither excepts Thai script nor Buddhist calendar.

When booking domestic flights, other than your name, no other ID is required.

I have used my ID card many times at check in at airports and hotels without any issues.

I know other expats who have done the same.

11 hours ago, research said:

Thanks, interesting. Good explanation. Maybe there should be signs (are there?) at the arrival E-gates to warn off travelers not to use them and tie up the gates/embassy pamphlet informing those obtaining New passports overseas to not attempt entry via the gates.

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Note, I said 'may' not.

I don't know the Thai Embassies policy on registering a new passport with the Ministry of Interior in Thailand.

A new passport has to be scanned into the system before it will operate and that is usually undertaken at the office of the Passport authority on issue.

I was a Security contractor and worked on installation of the first e-gates at Manchester airport back in 2007.

The system can be programmed to accept/decline use of the automatic gates dependant on nationality and given situations.

Although I have no personal experience of Thailand's e-gates, a good Thai friend who exited on a foreign passport, was denied entry via the e-gates on their Thai passport and redirected to Immigration control.

That makes perfect security sense to me in view of thwarting forgery, and illegal entry by undesirable entities.

6 hours ago, Maestro said:

 

Correction: the new constitution has in fact been published in the Royal Gazette dated 6 April 2017 and I am now waiting for an English translation to become available on the Internet. 

 

A comparison of the Thai text of Section 39 of the draft constitution and the promulgated constitution shows that the text of this section has not been changed. The published translation of the draft constitution has it as follows:

 

 

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Section 39 No person of Thai nationality shall be deported or prohibited from entering the Kingdom.
Revocation of Thai nationality acquired by birth of a person shall not be permitted.

It will be interesting to see how Immigration interpret this section of the constitution.

Of the 3 cases highlighted in this thread, no Thais were prohibited from entering, although they were prohibited from entering on their Thai passports.

1 hour ago, research said:

Who/what is the source of information that states you cannot enter Thailand via the E-gates, if you did not exit Thailand first via them. In discussion with the Thai embassy that was believed to be a rumor. E-gate readers in many countries compare bio-metrics embedded in the passport's chip with those gathered on walk through of the E-gate (picture, finger prints, scan of passport, etc) and if they match you continue on, if not you are flagged to the IO. Is Thailand using a different reader/comparison process?

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Thailand operates an exit and entry system even for Thai citizens.

If you depart through Immigration control and not the e-gates, you receive an exit stamp and complete a TM6.

The e-gate should not allow entry using the passports biometrics if the exit was manual and not electronic.

This is to prevent forgery which contribute to the international effort to counter transnational terrorist activities, and illegal entry into the Kingdom.

Similarly a Thai who leaves using the e-gate on an aging passport, then acquires a new passport from a Thai Embassy in another Country may not be able to re-enter via the e-gates until their new biometric and passport details have been reported to the Minister of Interior and the database updated. The new passports details will have to be read and programmed into the system before it becomes functional.

The e-gates check both biometric and personal passport details.

22 hours ago, Arkady said:

To resolve the OP's issue the simplest solution would probably be to leave Thailand on the UK passport to close out the 30 day visa and re-enter by air via Suvaranbhumi using the automatic gates.

 

If you didn't leave Thailand on a Thai passport there is no record of those biometric details in the database and you cannot re-enter using the automatic gates.

Each entry is valid for 1 year until the 'enter before' date of the Visa.

You can exit/re-enter as many times as you like before that date and be given another year.

Exiting and re-entering just before the 'enter before' date allows another 1 year stay, (2nd year) but the Visa and it's multi entry privilege also end on that date.

If you want to exit/re-enter during this last 1 year period of stay you must purchase a re-entry permit to keep the permission to stay alive.

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so my take is you can only run the OA back to back for two years solid if (a) you don't leave the country at all

You must leave the Country just before the 'enter before' date to get another 1 year.

If you didn't, you would be overstay.

3 minutes ago, Laza 45 said:

....that sounds right.. but but the Sakon Nakon immigration quoted 60k... and no combination... my pension falls just short of 60k with low exchange rate at the moment.. he said I would need 800k ... no combination.. unfortunately Sakon Nakon is my appointed immigration office..    thanks for the reply.. 

2.22 In the case of retirement:
 
Each permission shall be granted for no more than one year.
The alien: (1) Must have been granted a non-immigrant visa (NON-IM).

(2) Must be 50 years of age or over.

(3) Must have evidence of having income of no less than Baht 65,000 per month: or

(4) On the filing date, the applicant must have funds deposited in a bank in Thailand of no less than Baht 800,000 for the past three months. For the first year only, the applicant must have proof of a deposit account in which said amount of funds has been maintained for no less than 60 days prior to the filing date: or

(5) Must have an annual earning and fluids deposited with a bank totalling no less than Baht 800,0000 as of the filing date.

Police Orders 327-2557(2014)-extensioncriteriaconditionsen.pdf

The IO is wrong, you should take a copy of the Police Orders or ask to speak to his supervisor.

I had a similar experience with my first extension. IO insisted it was 3 months seasoning.

After speaking to his supervisor he was advised of his error and processed my application.

19 minutes ago, Laza 45 said:

...I was told 60 at Sakon Nakon immigration 3 weeks ago... 40k if you are married...  i suggest checking with your local immigration center...  

Retirement 800,000 in a Thai bank (2 months for first application, 3 months thereafter) or a monthly income of 65,000, OR a combination of the two.

Marriage 400,000 in a Thai bank (2 months) or a monthly income of 40,000. No combination method allowed.