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  1. Against this, rental cannot exceed 15% of sales (and Greg would probably say you should acheive, total guess here, sub 10-12%) so maybe movie floor Emporium is better than MBK in the back of the 3rd floor but rental kills it.

    You are right about the rent. Our worse performing location is Siam Paragon. Not because of the volume... it’s almost the same as Sukhumbit 7/1 but because of the rent of 20% of gross sales. Even though they are good people, we are just working for the landlord.

    MBK wants and gets 32% of Gross Sales from the tenants in the food court.

    www.thailandsubway.com

  2. DualCitizen,

    Sorry to hear about your experience on a couple occasions. You state you eat at Subway frequently so I surmise the vast majority of the time it’s been very pleasant and why you returned many times. Unfortunately any negative experience is what a guest will remember more than the many positive times. That’s why you have taken the time to point out three times you were unhappy.

    Employees are the biggest reason if you are successful in providing a good experience. We are open 24 hours a day at many of our branches and serve over 10,000 subs a week. I repeat its all about the employees getting the job done and training by mgmt. The good news is many of our sandwich artists would never provide the experience you had. But it just takes one to ruin it for a guest.

    Even though the Silom branch is not owned by us. I will point out your post to him. He is the DA for the region and will be flying back as he just attended the Subway convention.

    The Roast Beef does get imported from Australia. The girl should of sent it back if it’s still red. The cheese, no excuse. Not subway's gold standard that is preached and practiced by most of our staff. I just sent my wife a copy of your post and she will be looking into this.

    Thanks again for your post.

    Regards

    Greg Lange

    Director

    Bread Aroy Co., Ltd.

  3. OK. I have to give respect to Subway for their great marketing and expansion campaign. They have basically cornered the sub-sandwich market. But personally I think they are the worst. For you Americans....Remember Togos? What every happened to that market giant? They packed their sandwiches so full of meat you couldn't fit the thing in your mouth. It would be dripping on the table. Now there was a sandwich I would drive miles to buy.

    The subway in my home town was like that but i have not been their for 10 years. I am not sure it they cut back on the meat or not.

    For the myth that Subway has cut back on their meat, it is just that a myth. Our food costs are not at 40% because of veggies, its the meat.

    Subway has lots of meat in their subs. Just watch when they put it on your sub. If you want more meat just ask for the double meat option. For me, when I try double meat, it’s just way too much; the sandwich takes better without so much meat. I like crunch of the veggies and the meat rather than eating a loaf of ham. You get the combination of flavors then with still a very good portion of meat.

    But if you're serious, expect to work a lot of hours managing it yourself for at least the first three or four years. Subway will give you the knowledge and training you need but if you think you can do it for a few months and then hand it off to someone else while you count the money, you may have some problems.

    Well said. Subway has been ranked the #1 franchise system by Entrepreneur Magazine for 17 straight years. Even with that track record does not mean you as a franchisee will not have to work in the store at first. Once you have a good management staff and they emulate you, you can put in less hours. For all of our locations, my wife puts in less than 20 hours a week. But at first it was 60-80 hours a week.

    On a different note, if you are looking for Subway to deliver anywhere in Bangkok with out a markup in price. I was just informed today that we are #1 in sales out of 80 other restaurants by Chefsxp.com You can go to www.chefsxp.com/subway.

    www.thailandsubway.com

  4. Excellent post Greg. I have no desire to own a franchise yet I still found it all very interesting.

    I may have an idea as to why you aren't selling many foot longs. I couldn't find prices for them at the Soi 7 location, at least not where I'd expect them to be coming from the states where they are usually right next to the 6" price. I don't eat there frequently at all, but stopped in a few days ago to grab a foot long tuna but only saw the price of the 6" on the board. Deciding I was better off with the 6" i just asked for a tuna, but the waitress asked me if I wanted the foot long so I caved even though I didn't know the price. Many people may refuse though as they may not understand what the waitress is asking or don't like to order things where the price is not clearly listed.

    While you're in a sharing mood, do you mind letting us know how the Subway fares against that Taco joint of yours across the street?

    Thank you.

    Good point. I'm going to be putting the foot back into the foot long.

    Subway is 8% royalty and 3.5 % marketing fee. Sunrise Tacos will be charging in the future 6% royalty and 2% marketing.

    What are you buying when you acquire a franchise? The name, system and the advice of the management staff. If we open Joe's Sub Shop, no one would know who we are. The name and knowing the company requires good vendors is very important to many people.

    www.thailandsubway.com

    www.sunrisetacos.com

  5. Hi

    Some great comments, thanks. Yep, plenty of GCs for the Thais! I agree regards the start up costs. I think a profitable branch will be placed on good business skills rather than an in-depth knowledge of the catering industry, so easier to staff also.

    Im not sure about Greg owning stores but the materfranchisee isn't Sunbelt or Greg, its an American gent.

    Well I'm an American not sure if I'm a gent though. :o Mike Allan is the Development agent for Bangkok. Subway does not sell master franchises.

    If you purchase a Subway you do not have the rights to a certain territory. Subway does not have "regional managers", but does have "development agents" a.k.a. Michael Allan. Development agents' "sole mission in life" is developing their given markets/territories. There have been some unhappy franchisees when stores were opened close to their existing store and sales were negatively impacted. However, this is not the norm. It depends on the DA. Most DAs are very conscious of their existing franchisees. DAs have contracts with Subway's parent company, Doctor's Associates Incorporated. Per their contracts, they must maintain a certain level of sales average in the market. Therefore, they can't just go putting Subways on every corner to meet the development numbers they need. They have to be smart in their development. Saying that, they just had a Subway approved to be put a block away from our existing Khao San Rd location. They claim we will not be negatively affected but time will tell.

    Bread Aroy Co., Ltd owns 6 locations in which my wife owns 2 shares, a friend owns 1 share and I own 6 shares. I just bought additional shares bringing my total to 6 shares several weeks ago. The shareholder invested $25,000 and I paid him $77,250 per share. He invested around 5 years ago so a 40% return per year is not shabby.

    Food costs is much higher in Thailand as we pay 50% import cost on turkey, steak, roast beef and meatballs from Australia. The approval committee for Subway has never found a factory in Thailand that has the gold standard so they require the distributor to import it. We have food costs on average around 40% (we have food cost of 58% on roast beef, meatballs, turkey) In the States they have food cost around 29%. Subway is very strict on food safety and the quality of the product so even though its 11% higher food cost than a franchisee in the USA, we must eat the costs.

    Rent and electricity is much more expensive in Thailand than the USA or Australia. The average rent there is 6% on the gross and our average is 10%- 20%.

    The only big advantage is labor costs where we average around 12% and in the States its 25-30%.

    The annual Sunway Convention in Vegas just ended this week which I attended and many of the franchisees in the USA have had record sales and record profits because of the increase volume. It was literally off the charts. Nobody seems to have less than 20% increases and most had 30-40%. Some had 100% increases in growth. Pretty uplifting to see so many happy faces in a recession where Starbucks is closing 600 stores and to see Subway expanding.

    Based on reports we get our 6 stores are on the low side of the average volume sales in the States and sad to say a number of the other franchisees in Thailand our half of what we do in volume sales. Our unit sales are very high compared to the average in the States even close to the best multi unit owner stores in the States but we are not close to their sale numbers. The reason why in the States these stores do double in sales than us.... they sell many more foot longs and we sell much more 6 inches. We have the same amount of traffic but many of our guests are spending $2.00- $3.00 while in the States its $5.00 + the drink. The drink and chips sells much higher in the States as well versus Thailand. Average Franchisee nets 20% in the States and makes USD80K per year. We net 9% and make USD30K per store.

    If you find an excellent location and are a good owner, you can look to make a return of 30%-40% ROI. If you find a bad location or a bad owner, look to lose money. Because some franchisees unfortunately are losing. Even in the States, some lose but the majority do well. That’s why Subway has 29,500 stores and is growing everyday.

    www.thailandsubway.com

  6. Any advice please on this situation?

    Came to Thailand on Non-O Visa based on husband working here ( he has WP and Non-B Visa, we are both farang)

    After first few months applied for 1 year extension on my non-O at same time my husband applied for the non-B 1 year extension....both granted last september.

    Since then I have found a job and obtained a work permit whilst on non-O visa. Have been told that since I am now working and have a WP I must apply for a non-B visa next when my current non-O expires in Sept, if I plan to keep working.

    Is this really the case as others have said you can work on a non-O so long as you have a WP?

    Don't really want to change to a non-B as the requirements for 1 year extension are much more stringent and don't want to go back to leaving every 90 days on a regular non-B multi-entry.

    What is the true situation or does it differ with different Immigration offices?

    All advice much appreciated.

    No requirement to change in Bangkok. Some rattling last Sept but since then they have allowed it for you to get a work permit while piggybacking off your spouses extension of stay.

    www.sunbeltasiagroup.com

  7. Hi there, my project is to open a restaurant to work in it with my future thai wife. I need to contain at max expenses because I have only a little budget. This 3d looks interesting to me. The plan is to go to thai with a touristic visa, marry, then convert it to a non-immigrant to request a OYSP for marriage. At this point open a company me with her (and if need she have 2 sisters can join us) and request the wp for me. I would like to know if and how is possible to do avoiding the 2M baht of capital for the company (that we don't have :o

    As this 3d is pretty old I would know if the rules called here are still in use or something has changed in the meanwhile and how is gone to BrassMonkey with it.

    Many many thanks for any help on it

    Gbye

    Max

    Most people with limited cash for the 2 million Baht register capital on a Thai Limited Company simply pay for the shares with equipment instead of cash. As you are married to a Thai, the registered capital only has to be 1 million Baht. No one will ask to see these funds as the Civil Commercial Code does not require the register capital shares to be paid in cash.

    If you want your wife to employ you as a natural person, the requirement is 2 Thai employees must be employed and paying social fund for the past three months. The Labor Dept would like to see some proof the business is operating but if you cannot show this then should have a explanation letter why the wife has not generated income as of yet. The register capital on the sole proprietorship can be whatever she invested. It does not have to be 1 million or 2 million Baht. Again on this invested capital, you will not need to show proof.

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  8. Thanks for the link. It doesn't specify the number of thai employees needed (for under 10 WP), just the amount of invested capital for each WP. I remember this being a requirement before. Has this changed? Thanks again.

    Just depends where you apply. Nothing in the rules that it’s required but every Labor office has their own informal rules. Not a requirement as of now in BKk.

    www.sunbeltasiagroup.com

  9. What about the situation outside Bangkok ? Are the minimum salaries being requested outside the capital or not ?

    All labor Depts and our offices yesterday said " they now require the applicant to get a mininum monthly salary which depends on their nationality."

    www.sunbeltasigroup.com

    this refers to non-O, right?

    It doesn't matter what visa or extension of stay permit you have, the salary minimum to get a new work permit depends on your nationality or if you are a journalist or teacher.

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  10. According the the current reports work permit now follows the above extension of stay income rules, and that should be country wide.

    But isnt that report based on extension of stay requirements ?

    Earlier on in this thread there was indication that the extension of stay requirement figure may not be the same as the WP requirement. As someone also mentioned earlier, a WP is related to the employment sector and not immigration, whereas the extension of stay is an immigration matter and NOT related to the employment sector.

    My feeling is that there are 2 different salary requirements for 2 completely different subjects, and that people are getting mixed up between the 2. Again, one is permission to work, the other is permission to stay. Same same, not !

    Plus, would you trust a report anyway from Sept 2006 ?

    This Labor Dept policy started around two weeks ago to now follow the extension of stay based on business salary requirements. Up to then it was possible to get a work permit with a monthly salary as low as 10,000 Baht. Now its only possible to get a lower salary if you volunteer with a registered Thai foundation or you are an intern with a letter from a college explaing that you need to get experience for your degree.

    Remember this is for NEW work permits.

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  11. regarding the fund for deportation, the money we(employees) will have to pay every month, can we get it back at each border run or will we pay for years and years?

    You get it back when you stop working and ask for the funds after you leave the Kingdom. It seems the deduction from the employees salary will NOT be required anytime soon for most nationalities.

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  12. Hi everyone, first of all great site and super helpful members.

    I have been living in Thailand now for about 2 years and just set up my Thai Amity company, with a work permit. My 1 year multiple entry non-B visa is expiring soon, and I am going home to visit my family in New York so was wondering if anyone else has any recent experience or knowledge of this embassy, especially to get a new 1-year multiple entry Non-B visa. Is it much easier to get this since I have a company and work permit now, or are some embassies still a bit tricky? Any experience, first hand knowledge or advice would b

    On that note, does anyone know exactly which documents I would need to bring to the embassy to get this 1-year visa? Just my work permit and regular company docs (i.e. affidavit, shareholder list, work permit, etc), or do I need some sort of invitation letter from a lawyer or firm here in Thailand?

    Thanks for all your help!

    In most cases they only will give 90 days in NYC even with a wp. You should bring your work permit and regular company docs (i.e. affidavit, shareholder list, work permit, etc) Don't forget to have all copies signed and stamped. You will need a cover letter from your company

    Better to Fed ex your passport and an application to a more friendly Thai Consulate.

    http://www.thaiembdc.org/forms/app_form.htm

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  13. 2. Is that possible I can get 2 yrs work permit Or any benefits can you advice me? If yes... What I have to do before I go for extend my Visa/Work permit?

    Depends where you are. Some areas are giving one year work permits by BKk is still following the visa even though the Working Act law became effective Feb. 22nd.

    3. As I am working here working in Thailand from past 5 yrs continuously. Will I get any benefits from new changes?

    Sorry the answer seemd to be no.

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  14. Seems to me that these changes are going to make working conditions here even worse. If employers can now safely hire workers without a work permit for a token fine, what incentive is there for employers to get their workers legal? The fine will probably be less than the visa/work permit fees anyway.

    If its 100,000 per illegal employee, it could be steep.

    On the fourth change, if work permits can be valid for 2 years, are we going to start seeing 2 year visa extensions given by immigration? Or does this mean work permits will no longer be tied to the visa?

    It won't be tied to the visa or extension of stay permit.

    www.sunbeltasiagroup.com

  15. There is no mentioning of minimum salaries, number of Thai employees and so on. Where do those requirements come from?

    It is the Department of Employment Regulations

    Governing the Criteria of Considering Permitting the Work of Foreigners A.D. 2004 that is set by the Director-General of Employment Department but notice the Labor Dept can set their own rules and they do.

    If they follow the Working Aliens Act 2551 or Department of Employment Regulations Governing the Criteria of Considering Permitting the Work of Foreigners A.D. 2004 they would not have any requirements for number of Thai employees or salary( except for natural person employer). As often is the case the head of the Labor Dept sets their own guidelines along with the Working Act and Dept Regulations.

    http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=18599

    Is this regulation already in effect?

    Yes since Feb 22nd 2008. But no announcement yet on the deportation fund. Also BKk is not doing the two year visas yet.

    ...and again...this bit with the qualification or the lack of it. I understand that if you want to employ someone the Labour Department deems not qualified for the job you can fix this problem with a 10,000 Baht fee. Is this correct?

    We have found the Labor Dept in BKk to be VERY much above board while Pattaya insist on "extra" fees.We even went to the Deputy Mayor on this problem in Pattaya.

    www.sunbeltasiagroup.com

  16. I'm having trouble keeping up with this "how many Thai employees to receive a WP?" business.

    Nowhere in the "official" act do I see the absolute requirement for 4 Thai employees if other criteria are met. It's a crazy sittuation where a local director general can make up his own "laws" and then change his mind at the drop of a hat.

    You are correct

    I want a WP but am not prepared to unnecessarily shell out 4 salaries. So for me in Jan. a WP was a go-er but I didn't do it, in Feb/March it was a no-go-er and now again it looks like it may be a go-er again. TIT :o I'd better get me skates on... but hang on a mo' I live outside of Bangkok in Hua Hin, so is it a go-er or not? :D

    As of a week ago, Hua Hin required 4 Thai employees per wp.

    What about the situation outside Bangkok ? Are the minimum salaries being requested outside the capital or not ?

    Will check with our other offices and let you know.

    www.sunbeltasigroup.com

  17. Looking for Mexican food in BKK, which one have you tried and recommended.

    Thank You. :o

    A recent review of Mexican food in Bkk by Bk Magazine

    http://www.bkmagazine.com/feature/happy-cinco-de-mayo

    Break out the sombreros for a Mexican fiesta. By Stephanie Roy, photography by Badre Mammar and Kosit Pattaranukul

    Cinco de Mayo (May 5) is the unofficial holiday that celebrates Mexican culture, heritage and pride. A variety of amazing food, Coronas and margaritas are set to hit Bangkok for the occasion so we’ve decided to search for the Mexican dining experiences that our city has to offer.

    Bourbon Street Bar & Restaurant

    Washington Square, 29/4-6 Sukhumvit Soi 22, 02-259-0328/9. Open daily 7am-1am.

    THE SETTING

    The French Quarter of New Orleans with the essential Mardi Gras mask and beads, pictures of legendary jazz musicians and classic rock and jazz coming from the speakers. A multicolored restaurant that specializes in Cajun Creole cuisine.

    THE SELECTION

    Tuesday is Mexican buffet night. For B270 diners can stuff themselves silly on a fusion of Mexican and Cajun eats like zucchini stuffed quesadillas and refried beans with bacon.

    THE VERDICT

    If you’re looking to put on your eating pants and gorge yourself on Mexican food with a spin and a slightly generic appeal then coming here and slapping down almost B300 is an OK way to spend a Tuesday night.

    Charlie Brown’s Mexican

    1/23 Sukhumvit Soi 11, 02-651-2215. Open Tue-Sun 5:30pm-midnight.

    THE SETTING

    An all-American theme resembling something

    out of a Clint Eastwood western film. From the hubcaps of classic cars on the ceilings to a collection of license plates lining the wall, all this classic memorabilia can be a bit underwhelming.

    THE SELECTION

    The menu offers a variety of non-vegetarian, vegetarian, and low fat selections. Start your meal off with appetizers like the nachos supreme (B180) followed up by an entrée like the enchiladas (B230-285). Sides and extras, such as Spanish rice, are B15-75.

    THE VERDICT

    From the chili burrito supreme (B285) to the Mexican beef burger (B300), this is a good meeting place for Tex/Mex aficionados—but be warned of the children’s menu and toys, which account for a very familial atmosphere on weekends.

    Senor Pico

    1/F, Rembrandt Hotel, 19 Sukhumvit Soi 18, 02-261-7100. Open daily 5pm-1am.

    THE SETTING

    A high end Mexican/Latin dining experience with live Cuban salsa band, terra cotta clay fixtures, decorations of Aztec and Mayan masks, and vibrantly colored tapestries from floor to ceiling, which all contribute to an atmosphere that is so alive you can’t decide whether to eat or dance.

    THE SELECTION

    An extensive drink menu offering four varieties of tequila, margaritas and several “tequila concoctions” at B160-B280. From the grilled beef fajitas (B470) to the marinated chicken skewers (Brazilian style, B290), diners can sample not only traditional Mexican food but other Latin-inspired cuisines as well.

    THE VERDICT

    If mouth-watering dishes, an atmosphere with a heartbeat and a pulse, rhythm, spice and a dance floor all appeal to you, this is your first choice. Prices are more expensive than other venues around the city but, hey, who said quality was cheap?

    Patty’s Fiesta Mexican Pub & Restaurant

    109-111 Silom Soi 1, 02-632-8961. Open daily 11am-1am.

    THE SETTING

    Senorita Patty has it all figured out. Every square inch of this two-story eatery is covered in authentic Mexican memorabilia such as flags, coins, tapestries, and pictures of old Yucatan families. Finishing touches are the lime-green walls and glued mosaic chips on the countertops.

    THE SELECTION

    The menu is a bit eccentric. Starting out with one-two-punch cocktails and margaritas at B160-220, phasing into classic entrees like enchiladas (B320) and burritos (B290), but ending with a very Thai/miscellaneous twist with deep fried sea-bass (B500) and grilled pork (B380).

    THE VERDICT

    The food takes a detour from authenticity and instead arrives at something more suitable for the Thai palate (the salsa tastes a lot like sweet chili sauce). But what this place lacks in taste, it more than makes up for in cocktails and ambiance.

    Coyote on Convent

    Sivadon Bldg., 1/2 Soi Convent, Silom Rd., 02-631-2324. Open daily 11am-1am. Also try Sukhumvit branch (02-662-3838).

    THE SETTING

    A very styled and polished margarita bar offering a trendier and more contemporary twist on a classic Mexican decor as sponge-painted orange walls, dark wood ceiling beams, and purposely tarnished light fixtures and masks run from floor to ceiling.

    THE SELECTION

    The drink menu is overwhelming with over 75 flavors of margaritas including the Fruit Margaritas (B195/glass) and the head spinning Patron Margaritas (B490-625/glass). Tex-Mex delights like the BBQ Chicken Diablo (B475) only complement the drink selection.

    THE VERDICT

    With the average dish over B300 and cocktails over B175, this is not an inexpensive

    night out. However, margaritas are made with top-notch ingredients and the food is bold and extremely flavorful. Quality doesn’t come cheap.

    Sunrise Tacos

    236/3-4 Sukhumvit Rd., between Soi 12 and 14, 02-229-4851. Open daily 24/7. Also try 5/F, Emporium Park Food Hall and G/F, Siam Paragon Gourmet Market.

    THE SETTING

    Two choices, one plaza. No time to dine? Go lunch counter style. Prefer to sit, eat, and sip margaritas? Opt for the dine-in restaurant. Either way, dishes made with fresh ingredients are prepared in front of you, anyway you like it, 24 hours a day.

    THE SELECTION

    Over five choices of meat and salsas and an array of toppings to create a personalized burrito (B139), taco (B49), chimichanga (B168) or any other combination in mind. Just be sure to top it off with the best guacamole this side of the Pacific.

    THE VERDICT

    Excellent food combined with fair prices, make for the best deal in town. Whether on your lunch break or staggering home after a night of partying, stop in anytime. Besides, what tastes better than a burrito at 3am after an all night club-a-thon?

    Taco Loco

    1/F, J City Bldg., 64 Silom Rd., 08-6562-8391. Open Mon-Sat 11am-10pm.

    THE SETTING

    In a not so aesthetically pleasing food court is this lunch counter that seats about six. Not exactly fine dining but more of a lunch-time spot for those needing to get in and get out as food is prepared fast and in front of you.

    THE SELECTION

    The menu has roughly 10 staple Tex-Mex/Mexican quick bites. Choose from four Loco Special Sets, all under B199 and get a combination of items like hard/soft taco (B59), burrito (B89), quesadillas (B89), nachos (B89), chips & salsa, Spanish rice, or refried beans (all B55).

    THE VERDICT

    The cheapest spot in town. Ingredients are fresh (salsa and Spanish rice made daily), service is fast, and other than the carrots in the burrito, the taste is pretty believable. It could compete with any other fast food Mexican joint in downtown Los Angeles.

    www.sunbeltasiagroup.com

  18. I don't know about the Embassy, but the Chamber has its annual picnic as per the website below (click on July 5th). http://www.amchamthailand.com

    Thanks for the info. This may be what I was thinking about from last year. The links tell about location, date, cost, and sponsors....but what about the event itself?

    Will there be fireworks? What kind of activities? Food? Drink?

    http://www.idaybkk.com

    Will be fireworks.

    Tickets are 200 Baht in advance. 300 Baht at the door.

    Shuttle from Queen Sirikit MRT is available. No parking onsite.

    Lots of games for the kids and adults.

    It's at the Sport Club- Football Field at the Port of Authority of Thailand.

    http://www.idaybkk.com/index.php?option=co...=3&Itemid=3

    From 2:00- 8:00 P.M. on Sat, July 5th.

    Always a super time and open to all nationalities.

    www.sunbeltasiagroup.com

  19. What about the employees, do you also need 4 Thai employees to apply for a WP based on a non-O ?

    In Bangkok at this time, it is not required to have Thais. However in late Feb to March it was required for new applications to have Thai employees. Other districts are still requiring either 1 or 4 Thai employees per wp while others are like BKk and not requiring Thai employees to grant a work permit.

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  20. Is the minimum salary for journalists still 25K?

    Talking with the Labor Dept in BKK today they will follow the guidelines of the extension of stay based on business. This means Americans regardless of having an extension of stay, will need to get 50,000 Baht per month to obtain a work permit unless they are a teacher or journalist. The 35K is for Filipino’s. Volunteers can still get it with no salary but it must be with a organization that is registered.

    Again this is for new work permit applications.

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