Yellowtail

5 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

I watched the video again and you are right. The car had turned turtle. I stand corrected.

And the people got out like it was nothing. 

I wonder what would have happened had they busted off the fire-plug...

10 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Operative words being once a crew is on it. Many years ago, some young hooligans stole a car and set it on fire in the grass verge opposite my house, in what would be considered a nice area in one of the home counties. Fire crew never got to the scene as no one reported it. I didn’t report it as I wanted to see what would happen. Sure enough, after a few minutes, the gas tank exploded.

Yeah, and it can take weeks to put out a cigarette butt in a dry forest if you wait a day to get to it. 

10 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

 

The car rolled but you can see clearly in the video that the wheels were on the ground when the the person inside managed to get out. The video then skipped to when the fire crew had arrived and the wheels were up in the air. Maybe the fire department had decided that the best way to fight EV fires were to have the batteries exposed where they can try to cool it down directly with water.

Not clear to me, I watched it again and it looks to me like it was wheels up when the people got out. After that the camera angle changes. 

I can't imagine how a local fire crew could get it turned over while it was still going. 

56 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I thought they all were!

They all are! 

15 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Now that the protesters/occupiers are slowly being cleared from the various campuses, some remarkable footage has emerged of the damage, graffiti and vandalized furnishings which they left behind.

 

It seems quite reasonable to me that those who caused the damage should neither graduate nor be permitted to return to university, which is after all a considerable privilege, until the bill for cleaning up and restoration is met.

 

How they meet that bill is of course up to them - Hamas' multi millionaire leaders may care to dip into their swollen bank accounts...

Wrong. You said protesters/occupiers, but you failed to preface it with the obligatory "mostly peaceful". You'll never get a job at the Times

Because half the people being arrested are not students, there is no need for concern. 

That a third of the students at Colombia not US citizens is not a concern. 

That many of the university staff supports the protests in not a concern. 

That no one seems to have to study or attend class the week before finals, yet will still get As is not a concern. 

The only concern is that Trump paid Stormy to keep quiet. Once the DA has Trump safely behind bars, he'll make sure no of the arrests remain on the students' records. 

18 hours ago, connda said:

First Amendment

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Probe all they wish, but when they begin passing laws to directly or indirectly "abridge the freedom of speech, or of the press" and "the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances" (protest) they'll be shot down in short order in federal courts.

Right now the Uni-Party, i.e., Congress, with the exception of a handful of legislators not bought and paid for by billionaires mega-donors and lobbies who are anti-Palestinian and anti-Muslim and pro-war, are in the process of doing just that.  Attempting to make excuses to eviscerate the Constitution. And they are saying it: "We can't allow this speech or that speech, or speech against this group whom we support or that group whom we support.  Of course - they are paid to protect those whom their donors expect to be protected and shut down the speech by those their donors do not like. 
That's not how the Constitution was framed.  They are going after "protected speech" and it will get shot down in Federal courts (as it should), and barring that the SCOTUS.  I know there are people, including US legislators and US citizens who wish to live under totalitarian control - and call it "democracy" - but as long as the SCOTUS functions that isn't going to happen.  

Keep an eye on this thread as you'll see those people who wish to destroy the Constitution say so right here.  They'll start out with:
"Freedom of speech is not absolute!!!"

Yes - it is.  Except in a very, extremely limited set of circumstances, and most of those have already been established in Constitutional Law via precedent.  And the recent arrests on US university campuses are going to create a plethora of new cases, as well as laws moving through Congress to "abridge the freedom of speech" which are supported by both Democrats and Republicans.  I never thought I'd see the day - but here it is.
You say you don't like US Constitutional "protected speech?"  Then move to the UK or the EU and ask for asylum based on being terminally offended by "hate speech" or "political speech" which IS "protected speech" under the First Amendment of the US Constitution.  The watchers of MSM cable news whether on the Left or Right will be holding hands as they board the first planes back to the England to swear fidelity to King Charles if he promises to protect them from the scourge of the First Amendment and unrestrained "Free Speech." 
 

"...the people peaceably to assemble..." What the students are doing falls out the boundaries of this right. 

Their free speech right also does not include the interfering with the rights of others.

On 5/2/2024 at 9:41 PM, Cory1848 said:

Exactly. If students are protesting their university’s investments in the defense industry, specifically companies involved in arms deliveries to Israel, they have every right to do that; it’s their money (or their family’s money). And I don’t believe there are any universities in the US who have a financial stake in arming either of the generals who are currently destroying Sudan (though I could be wrong ...). But beyond that, so many people are laser-focused on the bad behavior of the Israeli state who don’t care a hoot about Ukraine or Sudan (or who can’t find Tigray or Xinjiang or Burma or Kivu on a map), that one begins to wonder why ...

They have a right to protest peacefully. They do not have the right to break law, which many seem to be doing.

They also have the right to defy the school's rules and regulations, and the school has the right to expel them for it. 

On 5/2/2024 at 3:46 PM, Wrwest said:

Yes! Let's do away with all public education ... just "another brick in the wall"! For those who do not know me, tongue firmly in cheek.

Or they could just fund education rather than indoctrination centers.

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes but less publicly. 

No point in that. 

11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That's rather dramatic.

Most Israelis want Netanyahu gone.

He stays only because of the war.

So he's incentivized to keep the war going indefinitely to avoid losing power.

So I agree with most Israelis desire to see him gone and I agree with Biden and Schumer he should be gone, but of course I don't agree with the diplomatic angle of being so explicit about that.

My impression is that this has become back burner anyway, and you just made that comment to attack Biden because you want fascist Trump to win. 

I wanted your opinion on whether or not you felt it appropriate for the Biden Administration to be attacking Netanyahu. He was elected, and he has a bipartisan war cabinet, correct? 

4 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Interesting. Yes, I would definitely classify this as a car fire as a result of a big accident. I wonder if it was an ICEV, would there have been an explosion? What’s also interesting is that someone, presumably the fire fighters turned the car over to fight the fire. Also, if I understand correctly, the fire was put out within 3 hours. If it was a thermal runaway situation, could it have been put out as quickly?

Car fire explosions are mostly TV and movie stuff. Most car fires are put out in a few minutes once a crew is on it. 

Did the car not roll over during the crash? 

To be clear, I do not believe there is any more fire risk with an EV vs and ICEV, and I think the risk of either catching fire very low.

Looks like everyone got out okay, good news that. 

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

He quit working for DOJ to go work for Alvin Bragg.

Sorry, I'll rephrase. Was the lead prosecutor not a top guy at Biden's DOJ that quit the DOJ and went to work for Alvin Bragg to kick-start the case?

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

And so what?

 

Biden said he wouldn't take the vaccine until and unless he was sure it was safe. BFD.

And said it never existed before he took office. Exactly. BFD 

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Well I hate that many countries are extremely anti LGBT but I wouldn't go so far as to think the west has any business forcing other countries to not be like that. Israelis overwhelmingly don't want a two state solution because they have zero trust that such a new state wouldn't become stronger with Iran's backing to seriously threaten their existence. Israelis are not wrong about that. Israel is very tiny and with all the B.S. about "land stealing" it remains very tiny and stuck in a VERY HOSTILE neighborhood.

Do approve of the Biden Administration pushing for regime change in Israel?  

I think it that the Palestinian refugees Biden brings in should get State Department scholarships to Columbia to help them "assimilate" more quickly such that they can be utilized in high position throughout the State Department, Justice, Defense, Education, Finance and Homeland Security. Diversity is our strength! 

8 minutes ago, Sophon said:

 

Says the guy who spends his days commenting on a topic he has no interest in.

I have an interest in EVs, if I didn't, I wouldn't post. 

4 minutes ago, Highlandman said:

 

I beg to differ. Your definition of cashless isn't what people normally think of as cashless.

 

Cashless means not involving the use of cash in any way. Using cash to purchase a card and getting cash back at the end isn't what people think of when "cashless" is meant. You're still exchanging cash for something, in this case a card.

 

Money in your bank account isn't cash. 

 

So if you're using PromptPay to pay for food at a food court, then yes, that's truly cashless. 

If you use a credit or debit card to load the card, it is cashless, yes? 

But if you deposit cash into your debit account, or pay your credit card with cash, does it make it not cashless? 

So I think it fair to say that per your definition, at a typical food court, some of the cards are cashless and some aren't, correct? 

Be nice to have that missile defense system Obama canceled to help with his re-election 

16 hours ago, stevenl said:

Right, one of the people involved in the decision to scrap the agreement that contained Iran is now doubling down on that.

His assessment clearly was wrong then and his references to 'Arabs' doesn't install any faith in his opinion this time.

Yeah, Obama loved him some Iran. 

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Well obviously we all know the aid from Nato and other countries has been vital to Ukraine from the beginning. The point being however those weapons provded to Ukraine have been legal and not UN violations

No one gives a rat's about the UN, it has become ridiculous. It should be moved to Turky

16 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What's pretty clear, were it not for Iran and North Korea boosting Russia's stocks of drones and ballistic missiles, which also happens to be UN violations. They would have run out by now.

And China

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump worried about re-election the first time around.

Why would a dictator be worried about re-election? 

3 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Where are they going to find an honest lawyer to compare him to?

Hunter Biden!

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is unlikely they are tourists. Far more likely to be some sort of scam or money making opportunity. Just say no. I have no interest in talking to you. Bug off. See ya. 

Racist 

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

This isn't about who approached who. It's about what the purpose of the payment to Stormy Daniels was.

Is there confusion about that? I thought everyone agrees it was to keep her quiet.