hammered

Thanks. As it is my due day, I may try one more online, and then head back to Bkk over the weekend

Yesterday I was rejected for 90 days online. Today is my 90 days due day. Then I have 7 days late. 

I am currently outside BKK which is my official area of residence and my TM30 address. I don't know if anyone can give me advice, but can I:

1. Report using my Bkk address upcountry

2. Report where I am temporarily staying (I keep an apartment) 

3. Or is it best to just head back to Bkk in the next 7 days. 

Thanks if anyone can help. 

The Nation has a little picture in its tweet box of protestors at the court. Wonder who these could be. Of course we expect instant massive condemnation.

The old problem of everyone passing secondary school exams is begining to dissapear at the better Government sponsored EP program schools ,, I have seen EP programs with 30 vacancies only accept students with the required pass rates and skills even if the program does not fill all available places ,,,this happens at my daughter school of 25 places only 17 were filled even though 93 children took the application .The result is unparralled excellence for the remaining students ,foreign language skills have improves as have science and maths and anylitical skills , the univerities have noticed that new entrants from the Government EP program are real acheivers and not the usual drones either .

This seed change supported by the government is having a real impact , many well to do Thais are removing kids from Expensive International programs if the kids can pass onto one of the new rigourous EP programs ,money does not help get access they have to do it on merit thats a real improvement ....

It only helps 10-15% of secondry school kids but it is a success and maybe will help thailand to change in the future .

Most EP program are a rip off.

Many of the teachers are from places like Philippines, India, and worst black African countries.

Nothing like a bit of racial stereotyping, eh? There may just be good teachers from the places you mention, and they may be working in schools in Thailand.

I have actually found many of the rural folk who have been oppressed for decades and now have found a (flawed imho) party that actually does things for them have a far greater understanding of democracy than many of the the urban ones who seem to think going to university, having an i-phone with a swanky app or two and a lifelong pot of skin whitener and who regard the gunning down of people in the streets as a far lesser crime than a bit of corruption by the dude in Dubai (whose government the world bank said had reduced the level of corruption under the previous Chuan government to normal levels) gives them the right to decide on what the majority should do.

Well the good news is that the Economist was both praising the 2 trillion infrastructure plan today and saying that the level of debt it would create would be manageably low compared to many countries. That will help the dip and is probably why this project is supported by such a cross political party section of business.

Well the Dems are busy pressuring the court to dissolve PT, so did anyone not expect a response?

In what way? I have not seen any evidence of the Dems camped outside the court or homes of the judges nor have they given out addresses.

They have repeatedly said that they want to give the constitution court the support to make the right decision. The reds have said that they are interested in the courts decision. Both meanings are the same and that is obvious to everyone: we want a decision favouring us and after Wassant's interview both sides know that decisions based on politics, and street demos and not law happen. In fact it is no surprise that both sides take to the streets after what Wassant said.

To understand the subtexts and how these things work PAD Sondhi statements before he was shot in the head are revealing along with lots of wikileaks too). The context is important and does anyone think the players are neutral (check polls on what the Thai people think of some of the courts, or just listen to Wassant on the perception of the court he used to head.

Can you explain to me why they are sending 30,000 people to stand around the court house and let it be known that they do not want the charges to be passed.

The anti government protestors are not going to surround intimidate they are willing to let the court do there job with out undo pressure. You have been gone to long. You missed it the last time the court did not give the judgement the red shirts wanted they posted the phone number of all the judges.

Would you like your phone number made known to all the anti government protesters?

Can you explain why a few thousand people who hate Thaksin are offering the court the support to "do the right thing"? It is all the same, and it is because of what Wassant said in his interview on how the court decided on a dissolution case previously, and of course actually understanding the sub texts and power games going on.

This will be one of the best changes in Thai education if it can be enforced by the government. The university bureaucracies will not like this at all. The direct entrance directly hinders anyone without money.

So, what's the endgame here? The Dems take over? That my friends is going to be a lot more trouble than before. Does anyone think that in Thai eyes a new government with Abhisit as PM will be viewed as anything but another establishment coup?

Suthep needs to get back in his box.

For the longer term future of democracy the wrong doings of the past and present, both in politics and civilian life, MUST be dealt with in accordance with the LAW (a 3 letter word, that appears to have little meaning in this country). It is simple really. All citizens to be treated similarly regardless of wealth or status. That is the only way.

It will be Suthep who wants to be PM.

Abhisit will be out of it.

A PAD speaker yesterday claimed the aim was to install Abhisit as PM. The speaker also said it would be a disaster and that there would be a lot of bloodshed. Maybe fear of one of these outcomes is why today we see those who normally remain quiet claiming having elected senators is constitutional, based on Thailand having had them before, before the ruling. That is quite a thing to say as the judges haven't judged yet. This is building up to be a big day, but let's hope it is a big anti-climax.

The Reds only come out to check if the court is doing it's work, which is understandable giving their love relation with the Yellows.

I wonder if the reds have picked up on three of the constitution court judges having been writers of the 2007 constitution. Can you write and interpret a law? Oddly, part of the establishment have raised this point.

Silly

MP Wiratana Kalayasiri said the Democrats had submitted the censure debate and impeachment motion in the same manner as they had on Friday. Somsak's condition that the Democrats must submit documents to justify their attack is seen as a tactic to snoop into the opposition's information...........However, Somsak said the opposition had failed to submit accompanying documents to support the impeachment move and allegations related to graft. He said he would consult his legal team before tabling the censure motion and authorising the debate.

"The opposition insists that it cannot hand out the documents to the House Speaker although he has the authority to consider putting the motion on parliamentary agenda. He cannot just use his power any way he wants or follow [someone's] order. He must face legal action in those cases. The Democrats will sign to impeach him and take measures against him as allowed by the law," Wiratana said......MP Warong Dechgitvigrom said his scrutiny of the government's rice-pledging scheme would be able to bring about a change in the government.

.http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Democrats-threaten-legal-action-if-Speaker-blocks--30219799.html

I agree its hard to supply documentation of this corrupt practices when Yinglucks administration is concealing the facts and releasing misinformation.

"The said request shall clearly itemise circumstances in which such persons have allegedly committed the act."

That is what the constitution says and that is what Somsak has asked for. What are they impeaching the PM for? An impeachment is a trial, and the defendent is entitled to defend theirself. That is basic law. You can't just say "we want to impeach the PM and we are not going to say why and we are not going to let her defend herself". That is kangaroo court stuff.

Get it right Hammered, they are saying, it may be the oppositions constitutional right to start impeachment proceeding against Yingluck and her cabinet. But first the opposition must provide all evidence to Somsak, who is the self appointed gatekeeper and will judge whether the motion can proceed.

Show me where it says in the constitution that this is the procedure?

"The said request shall clearly itemise circumstances in which such persons have allegedly committed the act".

So you are saying that your interpretation is that a defendant has no right to see any of the evidence against them. That is a kangaroo court.

The Dems need to be careful. Sure they will score with their supporters if they harangue the PM but if they go too far in assaults on her it will not play well with anyone else. PT have used this very well in the past and the Dems have frequently fallen into the trap. The Abhisit "idiot" remark was a PR disaster for him with those he needs to vote for him to have any chance of winning. Thailand is still a conservative country in many respects.

It seems that three of the constitutional court judges were involved in writing the 2007 constitution. Should writers of laws be involved in interpreting them. The irony of this is that it is a case about separation of powers!

"submitted 23,000 signatures to Senate Speaker Nikom Wairatpanich as part of its petition to impeach the 310 MPs."

"the club's mission is not to bring down the government."

Sorry, but what else would the impeachment of 310 MPs do but to bring down the government?

The aim is likely to take over government, which is probably one of the scenarios the PAD speaker yesterday was referring to when he said that the plan to put AV in as PM would be a disaster with a lot of bloodshed.

The impeachment goes to the NACC and then if over half of the NACC believe there are grounds for it, they pass it to the senate to vote on. As soon as they pass it to the senate the position holders are suspended. The senate are then meant to consider the issue quickly. It is a more convoluted kind of version of the Abhisit plus Newin maneuver that happened a few years back with disastrous consequences.

Of course the chances of it happening are probably a little less this time around.

Members of the House of Representatives of not less than one-fourth of the total number of the existing members of the House have the right to lodge with the President of the Senate a complaint in order to request the Senate to pass a resolution under section 274 removing the persons under section 270 from office. The said request shall clearly itemise circumstances in which such persons have allegedly committed the act.

Section 271 of the 2007 Constitution first paragraph above.

I doubt there ever was any rupture....Just a show. The red MPs didn't even vote against the amnesty. In my opinion it was just hot air.

The Isaan poll showed 75% of the people in the Isaan did not support the amnesty as they wanted Abhisit and Suthep tried. The reds are huge in the Isaan. This is generally seen as the reason PT backed down by many people. The North of Thailand would be very similar. It is hard for those who do not have connections in the rural areas to appreciate quite how despised these two men are for their connection to the death in 2010. The Dems sure wont be winning any election with Abhisit as leader.

Unaware of the poll, but did it ask why respondents were against the amnesty? In my experience, many in the NE are ambivalent about Thaksin, and many of the young adults are quite anti-.

Yes it gave them a selection of options, so they could choose several. 40 odd % wanted Thaksin tried, 70+% the PAD. 50% the army. It showed a rather nuanced understanding of issues and political opinion. I think Bangkok Pundit did a piece on it if you scroll back on his blog

So what is Suthep saying is going to happen on Nov 24? Or is this just another attempt to fire up a demo that has seen shrinking numbers, a loss of business support, an ICJ decision that didnt go the way they wanted and failing tactics? It is also a Sunday, so they aren't going to stop anything going on. Without extra fuel on Wedensday or a massive misstep by the government, what are they going to be aiming at?

I doubt there ever was any rupture....Just a show. The red MPs didn't even vote against the amnesty. In my opinion it was just hot air.

The Isaan poll showed 75% of the people in the Isaan did not support the amnesty as they wanted Abhisit and Suthep tried. The reds are huge in the Isaan. This is generally seen as the reason PT backed down by many people. The North of Thailand would be very similar. It is hard for those who do not have connections in the rural areas to appreciate quite how despised these two men are for their connection to the death in 2010. The Dems sure wont be winning any election with Abhisit as leader.

Well the Dems are busy pressuring the court to dissolve PT, so did anyone not expect a response?

In what way? I have not seen any evidence of the Dems camped outside the court or homes of the judges nor have they given out addresses.

They have repeatedly said that they want to give the constitution court the support to make the right decision. The reds have said that they are interested in the courts decision. Both meanings are the same and that is obvious to everyone: we want a decision favouring us and after Wassant's interview both sides know that decisions based on politics, and street demos and not law happen. In fact it is no surprise that both sides take to the streets after what Wassant said.

To understand the subtexts and how these things work PAD Sondhi statements before he was shot in the head are revealing along with lots of wikileaks too). The context is important and does anyone think the players are neutral (check polls on what the Thai people think of some of the courts, or just listen to Wassant on the perception of the court he used to head.

"The reds have said that they are interested in the courts decision."

The Reds have said a lot of things or rather their leaders have. There are many memorable quotes from the Red's leaders and many that are recorded on youtube.

As are there from the Suthep, the Democrats and their assorted supporters. Point is both sides are trying to show that they have the support to influence the court (read the Wassant interview to know why this is important). The interesting thing if the 30K number is correct, is why the reds are going for less than they had at Muang Thong. We know Suthep's numbers are dropping so it could be that, or it could be for control reasons.

Well the Dems are busy pressuring the court to dissolve PT, so did anyone not expect a response?

In what way? I have not seen any evidence of the Dems camped outside the court or homes of the judges nor have they given out addresses.

They have repeatedly said that they want to give the constitution court the support to make the right decision. The reds have said that they are interested in the courts decision. Both meanings are the same and that is obvious to everyone: we want a decision favouring us and after Wassant's interview both sides know that decisions based on politics, and street demos and not law happen. In fact it is no surprise that both sides take to the streets after what Wassant said.

To understand the subtexts and how these things work PAD Sondhi statements before he was shot in the head are revealing along with lots of wikileaks too). The context is important and does anyone think the players are neutral (check polls on what the Thai people think of some of the courts, or just listen to Wassant on the perception of the court he used to head.