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33 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

Where do you get the idea that the virus mutation that invaded Thailand was less contagious than any other version?   The abstract of the paper you quote says, 

 

No clinical parameters were significantly associated with differences in genotype.

 

It goes on to say, "Similar to China, the incidence of COVID-19 in Thailand decreased dramatically when the Thai government prohibited social gatherings after the first wave of the rapid spread of SARS-CoV-2."

 

So, it looks like Thailand did not benefit from a less contagious version of the virus and that its effective control of the epidemic was due to effective public health measure. 

 

 

May be you read before you write ...?

The mutated G strain which is prevalent in the United States and Europe, is more contagious than the S strain, said Dr. Yong Poovorawan, medical professor at the Faculty of Medicine, Chulalongkorn University. "Thailand identified the S strain when COVID-19 pandemic first started in the country, however the doctors have now discovered a more dangerous strain amongst Thai returnees. They are the mutated G strain which still is prevalent in the United States and Europe."

...that should Thailand experience a second wave of infections, the G strain virus, or G614, will be dominant, because it is about 10 times more contagious than the S strain originally identified in Asia."

Not the right time to open the borders .

I think that a good part of Thailand's ' success ' in the fight against Covid is due to the fact that the strain of the virus that was , and probably still is , present here is much less contagious than the strain present in Europe and the Americas . The humid climate in Thailand might have helped a lot as well ...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-73554-7

" Several SARS-CoV-2 gene mutations have been reported. In the current study associations between SARS-CoV-2 gene variation and exposure history during the first wave of the outbreak in Thailand between January and May 2020 were investigated. '

" The phylogenetics of the 40 samples were clustered into L, GH, GR, O and T types. T types were predominant in Bangkok during the first local outbreak centered at a boxing stadium and entertainment venues in March 2020. Imported cases were infected with various types, including L, GH, GR and O. In southern Thailand introductions of different genotypes were identified at different times."

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-07/13/c_139209806.htm

"BANGKOK, July 13 (Xinhua) -- Thailand's top virologist on Monday warned that the COVID-19 mutated G strain, found amongst Thai returnees from abroad, is highly contagious .

The mutated G strain which is prevalent in the United States and Europe, is more contagious than the S strain, said Dr. Yong Poovorawan, medical professor at the Faculty of Medicine, Chulalongkorn University. "Thailand identified the S strain when COVID-19 pandemic first started in the country, however the doctors have now discovered a more dangerous strain amongst Thai returnees. They are the mutated G strain which still is prevalent in the United States and Europe."

Yong, who is part of the COVID-19 leading team under the Ministry of Health, said that should Thailand experience a second wave of infections, the G strain virus, or G614, will be dominant, because it is about 10 times more contagious than the S strain originally identified in Asia."

The conclusion is , that Thailand was just lucky , but did some right steps to prevent the spread of the virus at the right time , too .

It would be stupid to risk this success now by opening the borders to welcome foreign tourists now .

Why did that guy react in that way ?

If she did of alcohol poisoning in her sleep , the normal reaction would have been to just call for help , an ambulance or the police ...

Why did he need to carry her lifeless body down to his condo's lobby and dispose it there ?

Stupid thing to do , or was he still drunk ...?

16 hours ago, webfact said:

"We have to wait until the second half of 2022 to see economic activity back to pre-COVID levels

There is simply too much uncertainty to be able to make such statements now . It is only speculation based on ' wishful thinking ' .

Too many factors about the future development of the situation cannot be known by now .

There are always at least two possibilities about the further development , it could end , or not . A vaccine that provides lasting immunity could be found , or not ...

Even if one would be found , could it ever be distributed to everybody ?

Some people will not take any vaccine , diluting it's potential effectiveness ...

The world is a mess , the people are confused and becoming more angry because of the effects of the precautions against the virus.

If one tries to be realistic and objective , it is not difficult to see that there will be many problems coming ...

16 hours ago, webfact said:

The BOT expects the economy to contract by a record 7.8% this year before growing 3.6% next year.

Wow , what a precise vision on some future development ... how can they know this ?

If they knew the future , why did they not foresee what is happening now ?

This is all BS blabla without any foundation in reality .

53 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

in fact he is the essence of positivity.

53 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Look at how strong President Trump is, look how he shook off the virus that wrecked the world economy

Let's face it : Trump is not only a stable genius , he is ' the chosen one ' , the new messiah ...

He never lies , he only teaches about the ' alternative truth ' to all these ' fake news ' provided by the godless leftish antifa media .

He is the not only one who sees this , many of his fans noticed it , too . He is just supernatural , he needs to be worshiped .

If he loses the upcoming election , he has all rights to ignore that and do everything to stay in power , because it is for the great goal of making his kingdom great again ... I think he sees it like this , if the voters will , is written on another page ...

Need to realize that Thailand is geographically . economically , socially , much closer to China than to any western country ...

Some people like to see Thailand as if it would be a country that is part of the ' western commonwealth ' , but it is not .

14% of the thai population have an ethnic chinese background .

It is part of south east asia , and Thais generally prefer to do business with people of similar cultural background .

https://www.thethailandlife.com/origin-thai-people

... we know that the majority of Thai-Chinese established themselves in Thailand over three waves of migration, dating back to the 13th Century ...

When it gets tough to make a living because of a system that is based on financials , the poor should get an unconditional basic income guaranteed by the government ... that's better than new submarines , and will keep social unrest away ...

16 hours ago, Brunolem said:

All the countries are in the same (sinking) boat, and Thailand is not among the worst.

 

Many of them, starting with the US, Japan and EU countries, could only dream to have a national debt at 60% of GDP, since they are all at or above 100%.

 

Thailand is not the only country heavily reliant on tourism...check Spain, Italy or France, for example.

 

The fact is that it has been already 6 months since tourism stopped, and we have yet to see any sign of economic meltdown, or population uprising (save for the students, yet for very different reasons).

 

It would seem that a large part of those who lost their jobs have reintegrated their families and villages without too much trouble.

 

One of the things that makes Thailand more resilient than most of the Western countries is that it is not a socialist nanny state, with hordes of citizens clamoring for constant handouts.

 

An unemployed citizen here weighs economically far less than in the West.

 

So as economists use to say, these days Thailand probably ranks among the less dirty shirts...

Excellent post .

Even with augmenting debt , Thailand is still far better off than a lot of western countries .

I do not see Covid disappear completely anytime soon  , I do not see that mass tourism same it once was , will ever return to Thailand .

It might become a destination for the wealthy travelers only , become more expensive and exclusive for foreigners ...

I think that is what the government wants as well .

It would be better to prove it's effectiveness first , before mass production starts ...

48 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

People often get the animals after they move in, we lived in a condo with no pets allowed but the woman downstairs had about 15 cats. These pitbulls need to be put down.

Thais do not euthanize dogs , they just feed them rat poison . A horrible death for a dog .

i hope that the pitbulls , who did not hurt anybody , find a new home and a caring owner who treats them species-appropriate .

4 hours ago, webfact said:

"The comments attributed to me without my permission in the GOP campaign ad were taken out of context from a broad statement I made months ago about the efforts of federal public health officials," his statement added.

 

Trump campaign spokesman Tim Murtaugh defended the ad in a statement on Sunday, saying the words from Fauci "are accurate, and directly from Dr. Fauci’s mouth.

" words from Fauci "are accurate, and directly from Dr. Fauci’s mouth. "

Are accurate , ok , but in what context ? Is that part of the presidential ' fake news ' campaign ?

4 hours ago, webfact said:

On Friday, Fauci described a Sept. 26 White House event, after which several attendees including Trump, tested positive for the virus, as a "superspreader event."

Trump should be held responsible for his handling of the crisis ( misinformation and lies ) , and for holding mass gatherings while downplaying the risk the participants of those gatherings take .

Now he has just recovered from the virus himself , he is holding campaign rallies again ... hope he is no ' presidential superspreader ' himself .