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The thai government is in a difficult situation right now .
On one side they get pressure from the people who live from the income foreigners bring in , on the other hand , if they make a mistake and the Corona situation worsens in Thailand , they will be held responsible for that .
The best approach is what they are actually doing now .
Testing , quarantine , and testing again before allowing tourists to move freely around the country .
That will not save the tourism industry , but , at least , they show that they are willing to do something .
They want foreign money and less risk of becoming contaminated at the same time ?
Attract the long time stayers by allowing foreigners to own a rai of land ... many would come ( after proving that they are free of Covid ) and bring in money to build houses , buy cars , pay taxes etc ... PR for buying an expensive Condo is a good idea as well .
Better they focus on the long time stayers who provide a reliable source of income , than the few short time tourists who bring in little money , but , may be , big problems ...?
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2 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:
Ridiculous to say a risk not worth taking.
It depends on your point of view .
If there is a risk to take , ( and even you will admit that opening the country is not risk free ? ) , then it depends on the relation between the risk ( what might happen in the worst case ) and the benefit of taking it .
I think we can agree that tourists in 2021 will not outnumber the ones of 2019 , right ?
So , much less tourists to be expected , that means much less income , and , as I said before , many tourist related businesses will just stay closed anyway .
No way to get back to the pre-Covid levels in the foreseeable future .
So , the potential gain from opening the borders is much less anyway , but the risk of it is growing exponentially just as the virus cases in Europe .
Imagine what happens if there is a serious outbreak of the virus in Thailand ?
All tourism related businesses would definitely suffer even more than now .
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5 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:
And a vaccine could be years away.
Meanwhile, you are saying millions and millions back in poverty and the tourism industry collapse is preferable? You should be on the panel with the other dreamers at the CCSA.
Nero fiddled, whilst Rome burned.
You do not seem to understand that opening the country to potentially infected tourists from Europe or the US or India , is a risk that is not worth taking .
Do you think that tourism will be back to the 40 million from 2019 ?
The unrealistic dreamer is YOU .
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1 minute ago, Scouse123 said:
And a vaccine could be years away.
Meanwhile, you are saying millions and millions back in poverty and the tourism industry collapse is preferable? You should be on the panel with the other dreamers at the CCSA.
Nero fiddled, whilst Rome burned.
And you think that letting just a few tourists in will save the whole industry ?
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5 hours ago, Grumpy John said:
It's been discovered people on low incomes with low self esteem with little hope for a better future just don't care about the environment.
Sad but true ...
I remember one day in the south of France . I drove just behind an expensive BMW convertible . It had the kids on the back seats and they just threw their empty Coca Cola cans out of the driving car ... right into the beautiful nature .
It is not only about being rich or not , it is about education .
People need to learn that polluting the environment is disgusting and selfish .
If they do not want to learn , fines will teach them ...
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14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:
The DPM said Thailand’s marine coastal resources still require continuous and systematic management, from the declaration of protected areas to conservation projects, which include national dugong conservation and coastal erosion control.
14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:Gen Prawit said today all sectors including the general public must cooperate with these conservation and restoration efforts, in order to protect the abundance and balance of marine and coastal resources.
Good news and a good move .
What happens this morning ?
A lot of positive developments .
I am starting to think more positive about Thailand now .
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5 hours ago, webfact said:
But implementing the target of 1,933MW in the 2018 Power Development Plan (PDP) would boost the economic value to Bt134 billion, including tens of thousands of jobs.
5 hours ago, webfact said:With electricity from solar panels now cheaper than buying from the Provincial Electricity Authority (PEA), the government should reduce steps for households seeking permission to install roof solar, which could be done online.
All these propositions mentioned in the article are very good .
Thailand can do a step into the 21st century now .
There is not a lot of future in fossile fuels .
If Thailand wants to raise it's status in the world , that is the way to go .
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19 hours ago, Tapster said:Thank you for the comments so far.
I'm looking for a bit more detail:
Do they impound the house and your belongings?
Do they give you some time to sell up, or do you lose the house?Do you go to jail?!!!
Does anyone have any experience of someone to whom any of these things have happened?I do not know anybody to whom that happened .. but I know that setting up a Thai company with the sole intention of buying property in Thailand , is nothing more than a ' tolerated loophole ' .
It is not 100% legal , and , if they are not confiscating the company owned property , ( I doubt that ) , they will still be able to impose fines or create other kinds of problems in the future .
As another poster said , If you do not have the right to legally own property in your name here , why not just rent ?
There are a lot of places up for rent , and it is becoming more and more ...
If you just want to enjoy your life without having to worry constantly about future developments , do not buy .
If you like and already found a nice place to live somewhere , you buy it by a Thai company , invest a lot of money , and then , later , you get new neighbors who make that you do not enjoy your life anymore , it will be difficult to sell that property .
If you rent only , you can just move out and go on ... more freedom .
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It is perfectly understandable that some people who want to come would like to avoid quarantine at all .
It is a difficult decision for Thailand .
By opening the country ( even with 14 day quarantine ) to tourists from countries that can be considered as ' not safe ' ( Europe , America , India etc ) , they make a gamble ... because if that opening will , in the long term , cause a resurgence of the virus in Thailand , and the number of infected Thais rises , ( the european and american strain of the Corona virus is much more contagious ) , Thailand's reputation as a ' safe ' destination for travelers would be definitely ruined . No more tourists at all in this case .
Everybody would be a loser .
Will the amount of tourists coming to Thailand with even a reduced quarantine time in place , be enough to save the tourist industry from collapsing ?
I doubt that . Many hotels , resorts etc will stay closed anyway .
Sorry , but considering the potential risk Thailand will take by opening the borders , it would be better to wait for a working vaccine ...
But , here , same nearly everywhere else , money talks .
And the others just shut up .
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3 hours ago, ezzra said:
One would wonder, with like population of 1.5 billion people that can offer cheap labor, vast landmass, and most resources available to China to produce anything they like, why would they come to Thailand to manufacture cars?...
Imported cars are heavily taxed in Thailand .
Imported car parts , that are later assembled in Thailand , are not .
Thailand is one of the main exporters of vehicles to the ASEAN .
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13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:Democrats had voiced for weeks that Trump would seek to dispute the election results. That could set off any number of legal and political dramas in which the presidency could be determined by some combination of the courts, state politicians and Congress.
Donald took good care for a majority of republican judges in the supreme court .
He prepared his next move , if he loses , very well ...
I do not think that he has the intention of leaving the oval office peacefully .
He will take it to the streets , his ' proud boys ' and many of his heavily armed supporters are on standby ...
I hope I am wrong .
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If Trump loses , he still has a plan B ...
It ain't over 'till it's over ...
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14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:President Donald Trump falsely claimed victory over Democratic rival Joe Biden on Wednesday with millions of votes still uncounted
14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:"We were getting ready to win this election. Frankly, we did win this election," Trump said. "This is a major fraud on our nation. We want the law to be used in a proper manner.
We want the law to be used in a proper manner ... ? What manner is this ?
Donald thinks that he is above the law . He likes Putin and Kim Yong Un ...
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14 hours ago, geovalin said:
Stephen Sidney Greatsinger, 56, has been held in a Cambodian detention centre for three months pending deportation after the embassy in Phnom Penh complained to local authorities that they had received threatening emails from him.
14 hours ago, geovalin said:“He was accused of endangering national security as he sent threatening messages against the safety of the US ambassador and embassy staff,”
By doing this , he just asked for problems ... not the brightest candle on the cake , it seems ...
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Only 105 kg ?
I an sure there is much more to collect out there .
But still a good thing to do .
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The first step should be to reduce the sources of that pollution .
That is polluting vehicles ( EV's are coming ... ) and the irresponsible crop burning .
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14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:
UNESCO Global Geoparks are single, unified geographical areas, where sites and landscapes of international geological significance are managed with a holistic approach to protection, education and sustainable development.
Good move .
Protection, education and sustainable development is what is needed now . If that would have been done decades ago already , the world would not be in the mess it is in today .
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13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:the ASEAN region and Thailand have a robust foundation and a strong preparedness as among leaders of the automotive industry, particularly the availability of skilled labour serving the sector
13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:Thailand to be ASEAN’s largest car manufacturer, and among the top 10 biggest in the world, adding that the company aims to make Thailand its manufacturing base for right-hand drive cars, as well as electric vehicles.
Good and clever move .
We will see GVM vehicles soon on the Thai market . Will be interesting to compare these cars to the ones we are used to ...
China is fast in developing high tech products now .
Even I do not like their politics , I have to admit that they can produce good quality goods , too . ( my Huawai p30pro is the best phone I ever had )
I would buy a chinese ( made in Thailand ) electric car , no problem , if the after sales service and the quality and reliability of the product is ok .
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4 hours ago, webfact said:the package would accelerate the development of EV production in Thailand
Thailand is ideally placed to become a mayor EV producer . A lot of cars and trucks could be sold to Thais once the charging infrastructure is in place .
Need to teach them how to use and charge the vehicles ... Battery production for EV's can become a huge market soon . Better to jump on that train , before it leaves .
But that is a step in the right direction .
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15 hours ago, heina said:
Should have pockets deep enough to bribe judges and prosecutors.
That's what they did , but because the case against Vorayud became of public interest , that finally backfired ...
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16 hours ago, webfact said:
the man’s name was Samart, 39. He allegedly hit his father’s occipital bone (the main bone of the occiput – the back and lower part of the skull) with a hoe when the man was sleeping in a cradle installed in the house.
16 hours ago, webfact said:Samart’s aunt Shin Nokeiang, 68, said Samart was an alcoholic but had not attacked anyone before. However, she now lives in fear that he will return and possibly attack other family members or neighbours. She wants the police to nab him as quickly as possible and send him for treatment to cure his alcohol addiction.
Not very smart guy , this Samart ...
Alcoholism and addiction to Yaba or similar drugs seems to be a huge problem for many Thai families .
There are Temples in Thailand that offer a cure to drug addicts , it's an unpleasant procedure , includes a lot of vomiting , but for the sake of the thai family , they should send their addicts there ... before violence within the family occurs ...
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15 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:just let it go and stop the madness, open up the country and lets see what happens
Something not so good might happen , too ... it's risky .
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5 hours ago, webfact said:
U.S. Election Day unfolds smoothly, so far defying fears of disruption
Wait for the results .
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17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:
Prime Minister Boris Johnson had promised a "world-beating" national test-and-trace system earlier this year
He has a big mouth , this one ... just like a crocodile , but a crocodile has a very small brain only , but Boris has a big one ... ?
CCSA panel approves 10-day quarantine
in Thailand News
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Belize is even nicer ...