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6 hours ago, kannot said:

Dont you just love the mindset though????

Absolute baloney. Try other banks 

On 9/13/2018 at 9:27 PM, MekkOne said:

Indeed you know, as your xxxxxx is well known on the Bangla.... BTW she owns me 10 baht change of the 30 that she asking for BJs.

6 hours ago, smedly said:

too expensive on transfer fees

Use Transferwise

5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

I think you should wait and see what actually happens with the UK embassy income letter thing. I think there will be another option that they will come up with.

a. I think if needed that is what I would do instead of losing more than a year on your passports validity.

b/c That is your decision. But it may not be needed.

The UK no longer will add the old passport's remaining validity to the new one.

Over countries have a online payment status. You maybe able to use it as proof of income

Tech what experts haha priceless. Redirect them to fix the government websites instead of wasting time on a time waster

7 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

The Thai cop in the OP photo looks like a real bundle of fun with that facial expression.

She dressed down for the occasion. That must have hurt lol. Horror without Make up to

48 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

The reason the British Embassy has decided that it will no longer issue those letters is because apparently they (and other nations) have been told, by Thai Immigration, that they could (or would) be held liable if it turned out that the information was false.

 

The Embassy has stated that they can not verify if what you are telling them is actually true or not.

There are probably very few people that are getting a government pension that alone meets the financial requirements for the "income" method. Thus they are probably also using income from investments or non-governmental pensions that, when combined, meet the requirement.

 

Of course we are talking about the people that actually do have the income to meet the requirement and aren't just "telling porkies". 

Meanwhile, the Embassy (and the Foreign Office) do not have the manpower to investigate the finances of every single Brit that is living overseas, whether you like that or not.

Not to mention that there are probably laws that prevent some branches of government from even trying to look at that information. Just because you have a government pension does not mean that each and every branch of the government has access to that information.

 

There are something like 51,000 or so Brits living in Thailand on long term Visas/Extensions of Stay it seems (according to the recent Immigration figures that claimed that 9,800 Canadians made up the largest group of foreigners).
How the **** do you expect the staff at your embassy to personally check the financial details of each and every one of those people ? (Those seem to be just the ones on Non-O and Non-B visas if I'm reading the spreadsheet right. Maybe just the Non-O visa types.)
 

Think about it. If just 10% of all those Brits (5,000ish) need income letters every year, that would mean the Embassy would have to physically investigate the financials for more than 14 people every - single - day - of the year (including holidays and days off). 
Let's say they work 6 days a week and have a total of 2 weeks of closures/holidays over the year leaving 298 "working days". That means they'd have to investigate about 17 people every - single - day.

Even if it was just 5% - that would still be 8-9 people every day. Not including the 270 who have Thailand Elite cards or the 1021 with Thailand Privilege cards.

 

And we're not even talking about how long it would take to investigate each and every person and yes, it would have to be done every year because they'd have no way of knowing if you suddenly weren't getting money from a source like you were claiming to be (or a myriad of other reasons).


 

Who's held liable lol. Listen when you make a decleration it states clearly it's a crime and punishable on the declaration. No government is being told by Thais what to do. It's a legal document period. Your statement is out of whack. THAI telling lol. 

As I said it's a UK problem period

19 minutes ago, rott said:

 Numerous laws that nobody has bothered about are suddenly being enforced, address notification for one. Where I live cafes etc have been told not to serve alcohol between 14.00 - 1700, always been the law but why now?

 

Possibly the Embassy have been pulled up about issuing unverified documents.

All coincidence only

2 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Well my old condo in Bkk (all units privately owned) always increased the unit charge before billing the individual units, until it was discovered that the difference, hundred of thousands of Baht, was flowing directly into the bank account of the paid and unscrupulous management company.

 

A new unit owner, clever senior guy from the property area of a major Thai bank, insisted on scrutinizing all the accounts, he quickly found the above any more*. The management company was dismissed and taken to court, the owner of the management company went to jail and was fined heavily and had to repay all the overcharging to the unit owners.

 

*Further, the accountant was also an employee of the management company (above). Scrutiny of the annual accounts revealed very large charges (all supposedly paid) for building insurance and more. In fact there was no insurance policy or premium payments whatever. The accountant also went to jail. 

Correct these characters are running wild. There is no law looking at them. And the police even do not care. So yes there stealing money. 

21 minutes ago, White Tiger said:

It's not a new requirement. The British Embassy was apparently satisfied that it was dealing with it in the past. So why does the British Embassy now form the view that it's no longer dealing with it? 

Maybe they want you to loose your pension period

14 minutes ago, giddyup said:

What is it with you putting down the British and their country? "I called yesterday there is no issues. But these monkeys may give them ideas. What a terrible embassy and country"  Try and keep your prejudices out of it.

They are a absolute disgrace many complaints. Been going on for months and months. Happy to be Australian. What a joke

30 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Well not quite. It is the UK responding to a Thai requirement and deciding that they could not do so in a satisfactory way. My main criticism is that more time should have been considered between the announcement and the implementation. An underestimation of the knock-on effect of the change on those involved. As for the Thai authorities, they are unlikely to review the requirement unless other Embassies respond in a similar manner and of course the UK might have tried co-ordinating with others, but in these days of sovereign independence, that might not have been top of the list. Don't know of course if there were any discussions behind the scenes.

Nobody is being told what to do by the UK and May

4 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Does no one understand that an Embassy cannot act as guarantor for the authenticity of documents presented by Joe Public which has lead to this? PEOPLE TELL PORKIES regardless of nationality and Immigration are trying the ol' 'Bully Boy' chestnut hoping to levy blame in the Embassy's direction & have just discovered that it doesn't work.

Rubbish there is a criminal charge in your home coutry clearly stated on the document

My condo charged 33 water 4.50 electric. I actually went to the PEA to connect directly.

They came to do the job. The technician at condo gave them some story and brushed them off. They are breaking the law selling on electricity..

This is just example of no active laws. Maybe with a new government it can be fixed. They set up a hotline which l called. The Thai girl connected to government office brushed me back to PEA lol. It's all one big scam. Cost me money running around. In my country you be jailed for tampering the electricity. The water is also plumbed. Liars what else could you expect here.

Just now, White Tiger said:

Yep. Appalling treatment of British nationals overseas by their Embassy.

Should be petitioned

12 minutes ago, White Tiger said:

The announcement on the British Embassy website about the policy change says today that:  "The British Embassy Bangkok is stopping the certification of income letters because it is unable to fulfil the Thai authorities’ requirements to verify the income of British Nationals."

 

I find that reason odd.  The Embassy asks for evidence of income to be provided with an application for the income letter.  

 

Ok - the Embassy staff might not have the skills, or the time, or the inclination, to carry out a detailed examination of the supporting documentation to see if it is genuine or "photoshopped" or fake. That hasn't been an issue for the Embassy, or the Thai immigration authorities, in the past. So why has it become an issue for the Embassy now?

 

To my mind if a bank statement or pension statement was as accepted by the Embassy as evidence of income prior to 1 January 2019 (the date the policy change takes effect) then surely the same documents also constitute evidence after that date. So where's the issue the Embassy has?

 

As far as I am aware, Thai immigration haven't announced any change in their requirements regarding verification of the income stated in the income letter, and the British Embassy hasn't made public any information to suggest the Thai authorities have asked the Embassy to change their policy on examining the evidence given to them.  So it leaves me wondering what is driving this British Embassy policy change. It would be great to have clarification on the reasoning from the Embassy. 

 

I can imagine a ridiculous situation in future where British subjects living in Thailand send copies of their UK bank statements and UK pension income to the Royal Thai Embassy in London, and ask the Thai Embassy in London to provide a letter addressed to the Thai immigration authorities confirming the amount of their UK income. 

It is more than odd. It's a disgrace

Just now, wgdanson said:

Please explain.

I can still obtain a letter from my embassy. Nothing has changed. There is nothing to explain. You been screwed by your stupid embassy

1 minute ago, wgdanson said:

What do you mean by 'no issues'. They have categorically said, and posted here on TV, that after Dec 12th they will not be issuing Income letter.

My country has no issues ???? You have 

1 minute ago, White Tiger said:

The announcement on the British Embassy website about the policy change says today that:  "The British Embassy Bangkok is stopping the certification of income letters because it is unable to fulfil the Thai authorities’ requirements to verify the income of British Nationals."

 

I find that reason odd.  The Embassy asks for evidence of income to be provided with an application for the income letter.  

 

Ok - the Embassy staff might not have the skills, or the time, or the inclination, to carry out a detailed examination of the supporting documentation to see if it is genuine or "photoshopped" or fake. That hasn't been an issue for the Embassy, or the Thai immigration authorities, in the past. So why has it become an issue for the Embassy now?

 

To my mind if a bank statement or pension statement was as accepted by the Embassy as evidence of income prior to 1 January 2019 (the date the policy change takes effect) then surely the same documents also constitute evidence after that date. So where's the issue the Embassy has?

 

As far as I am aware, Thai immigration haven't announced any change in their requirements regarding verification of the income stated in the income letter, and the British Embassy hasn't made public any information to suggest the Thai authorities have asked the Embassy to change their policy on examining the evidence given to them.  So it leaves me wondering what is driving this British Embassy policy change. It would be great to have clarification on the reasoning from the Embassy. 

 

I can imagine a ridiculous situation in future where British subjects living in Thailand send copies of their UK bank statements and UK pension income to the Royal Thai Embassy in London, and ask the Thai Embassy in London to provide a letter addressed to the Thai immigration authorities confirming the amount of their UK income. 

Excuses and stories from fools

Was it same day or did you have to stay overnight ?

1 hour ago, White Tiger said:

I find this policy change by the British Embassy disgusting. The implications of it for British nationals seem not to have been thought through by whoever the policy makers are - be they in Bangkok or back in the UK. It is the complete opposite to providing support to overseas British nationals. The service wasn't free and at £50 odd per letter it was probably comfortably paying for itself - so it can't have been a cost cutting exercise.

 

I can see the Royal Thai Embassy at Savanakhet getting much more busy after the British Embassy's new policy comes into force.  

This has nothing to do with Thailand. This is the UK.

On 9/7/2018 at 4:35 PM, gamini said:

These checks are necessary because many foreigners have "arranged" marriages with Thai women just in order to stay here. So you should not complain.

Lol

Thaksin the dream of Thailand. May I ask do you see any problem releasing convicted murderer to assist to train a PM