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1 hour ago, Nowaythatsreal said:
Ok the agent opened my bank account as well as getting the Non-O 90 day visa and then the 12 month retirement extension all on the same date (23 April 2023)
I then tried to renew myself last week and experienced the issues I have alluded to in my original post.
Since time is running out I feel I must go with this guy again to renew this time around but did not want to use him going forward.
OK so finally understand your situation.
You need to have same agent obtain next 12 month extension.
Ask agent where he obtained the Non O and 12 month extension.
How many days left on current permission of stay.
You may not have enough time.
Where is agent located
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5 minutes ago, Nowaythatsreal said:
With regard to Dr Jack54 comment are you saying that there is no way I can successfully renew my retirement visa on my own without going through the agent. Notwithstanding the alternative of starting the process in the UK?
What is your current situation.
Did the agent also obtain you a 12 month extension?
It's NOT "renew my retirement visa"
No such thing.
Seems that the agent opened bank account and obtained a Non O.
That would give you a 90 day stamp.
Then you tried to obtain the 12 month extension yourself and were rejected by immigration as your bank book did not reflect correct financial requirements.
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8 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:If he gets the visa in the UK, won't that be an "OA" with the onerous health insurance requirement? Seems best to go to Laos and apply for an "O" visa.
He can apply for a Non O-A in UK OR can apply for single entry non O based on retirement
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OP, your mistake was to use the agent to obtain the Non O based on retirement.
You just needed to him to open bank account (approx 5k)
You can either use agent to obtain 12 month extension and ongoing extensions together with reentry permit. OR
Kill off you non O and when next returning to Thailand start process over.
As pointed out you can obtain the Non O in the UK or simply enter Thailand visa exempt or tourist visa and obtain the Non O at Thai immigration.
You have the bank account so just meet the Financials and no need for agent.
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OP, you should outline exactly what you plan to do apart from renew one of your passports.
You stated in part......
"....to legally stay in Thailand "
What's the plan here
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22 minutes ago, Vae Victis said:Yeah well. That's pretty much the only point I'm making so...
The point is that ongoing ,especially back to back visa exempt entry via air will end up in denied entry from immigration upon landing.
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6 minutes ago, Peabody said:Standard printout, but I purchased the ticket from Onward.com and she therefore had no receipt or email from the ticket seller.
That's not correct.
Make up your mind what onward flight you provided.
Rent a ticket or real throw away ticket.
In any event she was admitted.
Absolutely not surprised she was questioned.
Good luck with next visa exempt entry.
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2 minutes ago, Vae Victis said:Immigration officers at BKK airport are losing it these days.
Got stopped myself for traveling too much on exemptions.
Yeah right... Their own website states that one can get as many as needed as long as the port of entry is an airport.
Was interrogated for 20 minutes. Empty questions with no apparent purpose.
Eventually told them kindly to get lost if they weren't happy as they had no rational reason to turn me away.
They forced me to buy a return ticket (which is fair) and let me in.
Too hard to argue with reason I guess
I'm gonna get my extension next week. I'll let you know how it goes.
I don't think there will be any problem as their ongoing shenanigans are plain dumb and don't make any sense.
But who knows... It's Thai bureaucracy after all !
Most naive post of the week/month.
You make one valid point.
There is no stated limit on visa exempt entries.
However many folk rejected entry if this is used as ongoing living in Thailand.
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5 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:
Its incredulous to think that the department that deals with foreigners either entering the country or living in it, doesn't have access to information about their visa status.
Find it whatever you wish....
You are wrong
This comment earlier is correct..
"Thai Embassy system and Thailand internal entry are totally separate systems."
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1 minute ago, Peabody said:FWIW, regarding throwaway tickets. They now want to see the email from the airline/agent and, most importantly, a payment receipt.
You are confused.
A throw away flight refers to a real ticket booked and paid for.
Simply not used.
A rent a ticket from companies such as "onwardticket.com " also work .
Zero issues.
Please post facts
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1 minute ago, MangoKorat said:
And your proof of that statement is?
Read some earlier posts from @Liquorice
He is correct. You are not.
However I have mentioned in 2 posts suggest OP bring it to IO attention.
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2 minutes ago, Bvor said:not too many entries according to normal guidelines
Can you please post "normal guidelines "
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9 minutes ago, george said:
Just show your passport and your printed e-visa to Immigration officer and say you want to enter on 30-days exemption at this time.
I mentioned this in 3rd post.
Previous reports of this being successful.
The OP would have an onward flight to Phillipines and ticket to Thailand.
Thinking io would accommodate this request.
One thing not mentioned is that an eVisa from UK would not have flight into Thailand from Phillipines
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4 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:
Stickerless or not, it is my contention that Thai Immigration will indeed have information on their system relating to visas and that it is quite possible that they will be aware of the OP's visa.
Your contention is incorrect.
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OP, rare account has been posted.
Many replies have gone off track
Thread closed
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8 minutes ago, Peabody said:Retirement for me, since 2015
If you marry then she can piggyback on your extensions based on retirement as your dependent.
However I never recommend marry for reason to stay in Thailand.
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10 minutes ago, Peabody said:
Anyway, the basic question is, should she be worried about not leaving on April 16, the date the IO threatened her with blacklisting?
Also, I kinda thought that the clock reset each calendar year. It was only her 2nd entry this year.Appears current stamp is visa exempt 30 day stamp.
She can apply for 30 day extension.
Regards your second question the 2 visa exempt entries limit per calendar year is via land border entries.
No limit visa exempt entries via air however immigration will suspect working in Thailand for many entries.
What status (visa/extension) do you have in Thailand.
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18 minutes ago, KannikaP said:
How bloody stupid. You can get 'Retirement' extension at age 50, but earliest you can draw on a Private pension is 55, or State one 66.
Tell her. Not me.
At 50 without income letter you have option for funds in bank method.
I was eligible for income stream at 55.
However did not require that.
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26 minutes ago, KannikaP said:
And some, like Phitsanulok......
The only answer that assists the OP, is to check with your immigration office.
He didn't indicate that in the OP.
Being Oz then same as OP (UK) not able to obtain income letter from embassy.
I checked with io at CW and she wanted "show pension"
Here is post from me in thread from March.
"I have read reports that basically state that their immigration office just wanted to see bank statements that the 65k came per month on a consistent date. That's it.
Also read many where immigration office insisted on back up info .
I can understand that immigration can claim rental income is not a guarantee source of income.
In my case just by example (not a brag) .
I have several rental properties and super fund (shares) in Oz...I wanted to change to income method.
So I changed my super fund set up to monthly income. Referred to "income stream"
Didn't need it but was done to be able to show immigration.
In ironic twist have decided to use agent ongoing for extensions
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28 minutes ago, Chivas said:
Otherwise as someone already mentioned you could just send 65k a month to yourself ??
Well in actual fact many do.
That can be from a variety of sources.
Example rental properties, shares etc etc.
As I stated earlier some immigration offices are satisfied with monthly transfers of 65k+
(Best idea to transfer on consistent date)
Some may want proof of source of income.
Pension etc.
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29 minutes ago, sabaiguy said:
Multiple Entry Tourist Visa. 60 days x 3
Each 60 day stamp can obtain 30 day extension.
Also if exit and reentry just prior to visa expiry it's possible to obtain almost 9 months.
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25 minutes ago, KhunLA said:They don't care how the money is source or where, as long as it's deposited into a Thai bank account from abroad.
Think you will find it depends on the immigration office.
Some may accept the 65k+ per month from overseas.
Some will require some proof that it comes from some type of pension/income stream.
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9 minutes ago, bigt3116 said:
The TM6 is still used at land borders
https://aseannow.com/topic/1324876-thailand-suspends-tm-6-immigration-forms-arrivaldeparture/
Non-O retirement Visa renewal
in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
Posted
You stated recently in another thread.
"I have been doing retirement extensions at Immo/Bkk for the past 15 years"