JBChiangRai

Actually, the Hindenburg didn’t crash, it caught fire. They think it was probably a static electricity spark created at docking by earthing the superstructure. I used the example of the Hindenburg because it’s the most famous Hydrogen fueled fire. I am not sure whether Zeppelin’s were buoyed by Hydrogen or Helium. There is little point in comparing other types of vehicle accidents like airplanes, the thread is about whether or not H2 power is superior to BEV’s. My post was meant to be satirical. There are numerous issues with using Hydrogen in fueling cars. Toyota’s Mirai has no less than 3 hydrogen fuel tanks, they take up so much space that the rear seats are unsuitable for adults and boot space is severely limited. Ultimately, I don’t think it will make any difference, whether hydrogen fuel cells turn out to be better than battery electric vehicles, it’s going to be like the Betamax and VHS era, the market will go with the one that is most widely available and I think H2 has already lost.

Just hook those pipelines up to the Anti-EV’ers here, lots of gas and hot air here.

Agree too, but I find it interesting.

Around 180 billion tons of lithium in seawater, we won’t be running out any time soon. As I have said before, I don’t consider your posts abusive, just inappropriate and fairly often rude.

That was predictable.

Are you feeling better now you’ve got that off your chest? Bless!

Lol yes you’re right Honky Tonk was Dick Emery, the music I think was Benny Hill (Yakkity Sax I think it was called)

“Can’t you read” another of your many inappropriate comments. Yes, I read what you said about renewables, but that same argument applies to battery EV’s, and guess what, the energy used to charge BEV’s is the same energy that would be used to produce hydrogen and generally not from renewables, but from fossil fuels. Keeping on topic, whether it’s a battery EV or a hydrogen fool cell car, electricity used is to charge it or produce H2 is likely to be the same source. Lithium is an abundant element, it’s simply a matter of scaling up, mining, refining, and battery production. Lithium is abundant in seawater, and guess what, there’s a hell of a lot of that!

Generate the hydrogen by electrolysis of water. Where dos the electricity cone from? that is the same argument used by people with EV is, that it can come from renewable sources, but does it? Not just now it doesn’t? So, instead of putting electricity in a battery, and taking it out again to drive the car, we take electricity, we electrolyse water, we produce hydrogen. We liquefy it or reacted to create something else, we store it, we ship it to a filling station, and ultimately we put it back in an EV and we turn it back into electricity, or we explode it to move all those 2000 moving parts in an internal combustion engine m, all these extra steps, complete nonsense, and that is why people are buying battery EV’s and not hydrogen cars like the Toyota Mirai , which is the biggest flop they have ever had. The problem you talk about with lithium, it’s not it’s abundance, it’s the number of battery factories and refiners that we have, that has to scale up massively, and it will do, supply and demand.

Well, I don’t now, one member talks about butts and ins and you’re talking about being girly, I think you’re rude honky-tonk cue Benny Hill, music

I believe Airbus too. I think the only claim for a fly by wire accident is this one. The pilot of the A320 that crashed at Habsheim claimed the fly-by-wire engines failed to spool up on command. it was vital to the state & Airbus that it be pilot error. Ultimately, he was found guilty and sentenced to 10 months in prison and 10 months probation. Analysis of photographs, showing the black boxes being carried away from the aircraft by the worlds most prestigious photograph certification company in Lausanne, Switzerland showed that the black boxes being presented to the court were not the same ones photographed being carried away from the aircraft. Additionally, further analysis by experts identified numerous problems with the digital flight data recorder, four seconds missing, no timing marks on the tape, wrong leaders on the tape etc etc. IMHO, the captain was right, and it, most likely was a fly-by-wire error, it would’ve been disastrous for Airbus, if that was found to be the case on their first ever, A320 aeroplane.

You’re missing a couple of important points. Hydrogen is still highly inflammable and explosive, whether it is used for fuel or buoyancy. Secondly, how are you going to produce the hydrogen? With the same dirty fossil technology that is currently used to charge EV’s. Market forces will determine which one is going to be successful, and right now, it does not look like hydrogen. It very much looks like EV.

I think one of the challenges with EV’s is making the tyres, suspension, brakes, weight distribution, steering etc. capable of handling their ever increasing performance. Typically weighing over 2 tons, it must be challenging to make it stop as quick as it can accelerate. A very fast car that won’t handle properly is unsafe.

But not the dead ones…Thank you Boeing

Ah a FOOL cell, Hydrogen, there was a vehicle that ran on hydrogen, it was an airship, I think it was called the Hindenburg. What could possibly go wrong.

They say KYC block is temporary but won’t give timescale, can still sell crypto but can’t buy on BitKub. Cannot use PayPal at all. It seems to be related to Digital ID’s, hopefully we will all get them.

Being a Brit, I had to look them up. Before EV’s fast cars were uncommon in the UK & expensive. EV’s are fast and cheap and they are getting very fast. It’s an exciting time to be alive. It used to be big news when a car was launched that could do 0-100 in 8 seconds, now almost every EV betters that and is exciting to drive. With the launch of cheap dual motor EV’s, anyone can own not just supercar but hypercar performance with cheap running costs and driving becomes a lot of fun.

It might have been a Pontiac Firebird I drove, it was gold with a huge eagle decal on the bonnet. I do remember it drove like a POS.

I was surprised too. This could never happen in in the UK. My account was with Bangkok Bank. I used an agency for my Elite application and they were able to explain what they were concerned about and it was addressed to their satisfaction. Bangkok Bank would have known where the withdrawals were made.

I’m not sure there is any EV solution for diesel pick up and a petrol van in Thailand just yet. But that EV revolution is already happening, you’ve only to look at the cars on the roads in Thailand’s major cities to see that. .

Alpha used to make a 55l tank that was switchable 800w, 1.6Kw and 2.4Kw I put a couple of 1.2Kw tanks in another house, I can’t remember what make they were.

I was messing with you

I’m a little nervous of any friends talking about butt’s and in’s and sky.

I thought he might be, he has a British sense of humour. it makes it all the more crazy that he drives a transam, I drove one for a short time in the 1970s and I couldn’t believe how slow it was for such a large engine car. I had a Lincoln continental coupe for about six months with a 7.5 L engine, and that wouldn’t break 80 mph.

I’m curious, are you from the former colonies? Why do you drive a transam? I drove one once, it was horrible.