Chomper Higgot

So that’s you signed up for denying idiots guns is it?

I agree and disagree. I too have owned guns, two rifles and a shot gun, at the time I had shooting rights on wooded land, my guns were tools which I used to hunt food. This is true for very many Americans, their gun is a tool, in some regions it is also a necessary means of protection against dangerous animals. For these people there deep cultural and practical reasons to own and use guns. However, this is not the case for very many other Americans. On the insistence of my father I learned to shoot at a military cadet range, were gun safety was literally drilled into those attending, as a young teenager the discipline and sense of responsibility ’drilled’ was part of the enjoyment. Later I occasionally attended ‘civilian’ shooting clubs, this was an entirely different mix of experiences. Some were excellent, well managed and sociable, some were filled with very strange people ‘drilling’ on the politics of fear. I gave up my guns when my kids were born, yes my guns were always under lock and key, the guns the bolts and the ammo all under separate locks, but guns around young children, no thank you. As for a gun for self defense/home defense, I’ll go back to what I was drilled on. If you feel you need a weapon (any weapon) to be safe in a place, don’t go there. It’s not like in the movies, you probably won’t get to your weapon in time and it will very likely cause you to stay put when you should be running. Society needs to have a measured conversation on gun control, that can’t happen with extremists on both sides getting all the airtime. It certainly cannot happen while the gun lobby is permitted to buy the allegiance of politicians who should be acting for all citizens, not just the gun lobby.

A person must have a firearm licence to possess or use a firearm. Licence holders must demonstrate a "genuine reason" (which does not include self-defence) for holding a firearm licence[2] and must not be a "prohibited person". All firearms must be registered by serial number to the owner, who must also hold a firearms licence. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_of_Australia

Some background data: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/03/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

A woefully inadequate’Federal Background Check’.

Correct, but here’s a thing. The Second Amendment says absolutely nothing about Government controlling where guns may be bought and sold.

‘Federal Government’ is not entirely accurate. There are two chambers of Federal Government, one of which is currently blocking all attempts at changing gun laws.

We know ‘superficial checks’ exist in Federal law and that even ‘superficial checks’ are not universally applied.

False equivalence. Road accidents (the clue is in the name) are not deliberate mass murder.

So banning guns does work.

Take a one way hire from one of the main car hire companies from LHR to your home town/nearest drop off station. Then hire from a local hire company for the rest of your visit.

The head that needs to roll is that if the governor himself.

Oddly, when guns aren’t widely available (UK and Australia being examples), mass murders are far less common.

False equivalence. Trump was speaking at the NRA event, an organization that promotes guns and opposes gun controls. Except of course when Trump is speaking.

Let’s take the gun lobby at its word, ‘guns don’t kill people, people kill people’ and latterly ‘mental illness is the cause of gun violence’. If these two statements are true, why the objection to background checks? Why the objection to denying gun ownership to people with a record of violence? Why the objections to denying gun ownership to people suffering mental illness?

At which guns were banned during his appearance.

Oh right, so NY State, Georgia State and the DoJ are not well down the road in their investigations of Trump’s crimes you claim were ‘crying wolf’.

And so it begins to be reported. There is ample evidence that NY State, Georgia Stare and the DoJ have ongoing investigations and Grand Juries examining Trump and many of those who were in Trump’s administration. Why this has received so little press coverage is a mystery. However, next month the Congressional investigation into the events of January 6 goes to live TV, the game is about to change pace.

Oh look, more whataboutary.

Nobody cares about your lies BritMan, though depending on what lies you tell HMGov you may be breaking the law. ’Tony Blair blah blah’ is irrelevant whataboutary. Johnson broke the laws others were obeying despite the difficulties they personally suffered at the time, he then lied about it mIllions of people (voters) understand that.

I thought you were done? Go back and read your posts to see who’s statements you are relying on.

Yes.

Please come back when you have a more credible witness.

Well, yes, because it’s a salient point. You are using what Johnson says as some kind of proof that he did not break the law. It’s a proof that falls apart on the established fact that Johnson is a habitual liar. He has absolutely no credibility. Millions of people (voters) understand this.

Johnson says a lot of things. Unfortunately he also tells a lot of lies, he’s s got a long record of lying, lying is his thing.