Chomper Higgot

The benefits of those concessions were explained to Brexiteers before the referendum. They chose to ignore facts and went with emotions.

Yes. Or I want some tax payments back.

From the moment of the BREXIT victory throughout to last week the UK Government have had an open policy of seeking a path forward for the UK without any involvement of or cooperation with the EU. Then all of a sudden this happened. https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/11/revealed-secret-cross-party-summit-held-to-confront-failings-of-brexit

Here’s the really clever bit. Billionaires enlisting people at or near the bottom of the wealth ladder defending the very practices that have stripped wealth out of blue collar workers and the middle class to line the pockets of the hyper wealthy. It’s a stroke of genius.

Beat me to it.

Because you don’t understand tax paid proportional to income.

Agree, and it certainly makes zero sense to put lives at risk recovering remains buried amongst still live munitions.

This has brought about an eerie silence on the normally Laptop obsessed side of the room.

No assumption on my part about your wealth in your cross thread posting. Perhaps getting back to the topic in under discussion (I’m not it) will help you avoid getting into spacious semantics and save you wasting time trawling through past threads in an attempt to score ‘points’ with snatched comments out of context of the thread they were made in.

The benefits of buying politicians to create ‘loop holes’ in your favor.

The OP provides an example of a ‘law’ that the very wealthy have access to while the poor do not, shooting down your claim that everyone has access to the same laws.

The economy creates jobs, not billionaires. Neoliberalism, tax laws and regulations manipulated through the purchase of politicians creates billionaires while at the same time hollowing out the financial security of the rest of the population. The wealth of the nation is built by the hard work of the blue collar and middle classes. Time for them to once again get a fair share of that wealth.

Pinned

The rightwing obsession with other people’s gender is deserving of examination.

I don’t recall ever telling you that ‘you should share your wealth’. I don’t assume anyone is wealthy on the basis of things they’ve said on an anonymous Internet forum.

Classified documents copied onto a laptop and a thumb drive. This raises a number of questions. Why where these classified documents copied? Why where these copied classified documents placed into the laptop? Why where these copied classified documents placed on the thumb drive? When where these classified documents copied? On who’s authority? Who was aware these copied classified documents were on the lap top and thumb nail? Who had access to the laptop and thumb drive? Were the copied classified documents on the laptop and thumb drive ever accessed on or copied to any other computer? What’s the laptop ever connected to the internet after the files were copied onto it? Where the copied classified documents ever transferred in mails or to servers? What level of security, if any, was applied to the laptop and thumb nail? Do we need a Congressional Investigation?!

Hey look at you defending the billionaires.

Alarm Biden has refunded the IRS, plugging the inspection gap created by Trump through which the wealthy, hyper wealthy and corporations dodge taxes.

Things will not change while ever voters subscribe to the fatalism of all Governments being corrupt. It’s a fatalism that is plays right into the hands of the very people who are actually corrupt.

The only question applicable to the subject of discussion is how is President Biden going to fund Social Security. The President has made very clear statements on where on the income scales he will not raise taxes. So sorry, I’m not interested in your continuing baiting over months across multiple threads.

Yep, that’s an example of how the rich avoid taxes. And an example of a loophole that is easy to plug without any impact on the vast majority of working people.

So was Brutus. Jack be nimble Jack be quick.

I personally would like to see a bit more Bernie and Warren thinking put into practice.

Excellent. Thank you for posting. Despite the clear bipartisan support amongst the electorate the problem remains getting the intransigent Republicans within Congress to back proposals that deliver what voters want. Rightwing extremists within the Republican Party wish to see the Social Security budget placed under annual Congressional approval, which would undoubtedly turn it into a blackmailing chip with those reliant on Social Security being the being the pawns in play.

Let me correct you. Under the topic of discussion (US President Biden has yet to say just how he would strengthen Social Security and Medicare trust funds) what matters is pledges President Biden has made on who will not pay higher taxes. I’ve suggested raising taxes on the rich and in particular the hyper wealthy. So let’s see what US President Biden has said about who’s taxes will not go up: Firstly he has this to say: “Joe Biden believes that there’s no greater economic engine in the world than the hard work and ingenuity of the American people. But for too long, the economy has worked great for those at the top, while working families continually get squeezed.” I think most Americans will agree with that. He then adds this: “Under this historic agreement, nobody earning less than $400,000 per year will pay a penny more in taxes.” And from Biden’s 2022 ‘State of the Union Speech’: “Biden reiterated a promise not to raise taxes on households with annual income below $400,000, a pledge he's made since his presidential campaign.” Therefore any increases in taxes to fund social security must under Biden’s pledge and campaign promises not be funded by raising taxes on anyone earning less than $400,000. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/10/28/president-biden-announces-the-build-back-better-framework/ https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/03/02/biden-reiterates-400000-tax-pledge-to-fund-agenda.html